I failed once or twice and then I just kept losing for a looong time now. I know it's stupid to even ask here but I am desperate and against the wall so to speak.
Context: >Graduated in 2023, Software Degree and IT course (didn't know the market would get saturated this fast) >2024 I tried to get a job the way you usually do >2025, went abroad for work and only managed to hold a job for 3 months until the contract ended and the business changed owners >2026, basically fully NEET and back in my home country after pussying out overseas >Did a course in teaching English because I thought it'd get me short term cash (it did not)
So, what do I do? I know any plans of having 'fun' 20's are over and done with but even the idea of getting anywhere in life seems impossible to me.
Also: >Addicted to Doomscrolling, can't get enough sleep >Not sure how to socialize or network if it's even possible for me >Flat broke >Most likely have some form of ASD and trauma, as pathetic as that sounds
I am trying to fix these things all at the same time but maybe I should look into getting meds or something. I think I might be depressed or burnt out or something. I don't recognize being this fucked up, even as a teenager. I just want to make money and be left alone now.
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Anonymous05/19/26(Tue)15:25:01
>>34546883(OP) Maybe look into accepting a shittier job so you can coast for a bit
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Anonymous05/19/26(Tue)17:59:48
I graduated with a CIS major the same year as you and im also 25. Stop being a NEET and work as a bartender/factory worker/whatever until you can get a tech related job. I had to work as a computer repair man for a year after graduation before I lucked out and got an IT job. It takes several hundred applications, dozens of failed interviews, and luck before you can land an IT gig. Also you arent a loser because you dont have an IT job you just feel like one. I live in an apartment and work full time and i feel like a loser because im emotionally underdeveloped as a grown ass man. Only things that make me feel better about that are gym/running and my hobbies.
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Anonymous05/19/26(Tue)21:36:44
>>34546900 >Maybe look into accepting a shittier job so you can coast for a bit I tried that locally with very little luck.
After I get my setup back to normal, I'll do some more freelance work. I won't rule out anything at least.
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Anonymous05/19/26(Tue)21:45:36
>>34547265 >work as a bartender/factory worker/whatever until you can get a tech related job I will, I'll get back into the market.
>It takes several hundred applications, dozens of failed interviews, and luck before you can land an IT gig That's fair, yeah. Seems like a lot but there's no choice anyway I guess.
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Anonymous05/20/26(Wed)09:42:54
>>34546883(OP) If at first you don't succeed, try again
BUT only if you try differently
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Anonymous05/20/26(Wed)12:48:58
>>34549216 >BUT only if you try differently Do you mean my mindset about things are about my career choices?
I will admit, I haven't had a clear roadmap for my life for the past year.
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Anonymous05/21/26(Thu)00:05:55
>>34546883(OP) Get your T-levels checked, just to be safe.
>>34550880 Uh, how would we do that? Like via 4chan I mean.
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Anonymous05/21/26(Thu)13:51:04
>>34550836 Should I get a full checkup for that, or should I wait until I am able to do this during an actual checkup?
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Anonymous05/21/26(Thu)19:09:51
>>34546883(OP) post "nigger" in the bluest of boards and get a 3 day ban. Don't reset the router and delete cookies. Stop solving these stupid captchas. Doomscroll only at mornings or when you drink a cup of coffee. Aim for some kind of disabilty gibs in your country. That's all you can do, nignog
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Anonymous05/21/26(Thu)20:22:13
>>34550926 >Uh, how would we do that? Like via 4chan I mean. Not via 4chan, we would add each other on Discord, slowly know each other, and then we would collaborate. I am feeling lost just like you. I have a few SaaS ideas, nothing groundbreaking, I don't plan on changing the world, I just want to be able to make enough money to cover our personal expenses, if it grows to actually generate more money than that, it's a win. Sorry, I was only able to answer today cause I was working. I don't like frontend BTW, I find it very easy to build the backend of anything I want, but I hate frontend, it's just tiring.
>>34553014 Okay sure, Discord would work good for me.
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Anonymous05/21/26(Thu)22:39:28
>>34553376 I dropped my discord ID and deleted quickly, idk if you've seen it. You can drop yours too, not a problem.
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Anonymous05/22/26(Fri)02:16:44
You're not a loser. You'll become one though if you fully convince yourself that you are, you'll self-sabotage yourself at almost every opportunity.
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Anonymous05/22/26(Fri)10:11:31
>>34553400 All good, thank you. I managed to find it, I'll add you as soon as I can.
I'll drop my own later, just need to attend to a few things.
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Anonymous05/22/26(Fri)12:13:06
>>34554512 >I'll drop my own later, just need to attend to a few things. Sure, good luck with everything you have to take care of. Until then.
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Anonymous05/23/26(Sat)01:34:52
>>34553014 >I have a few SaaS ideas, nothing groundbreaking, I don't plan on changing the world, I just want to be able to make enough money to cover our personal expenses, I feel the exact same way, having a project that pays for itself is the best goal for starting this kind of venture.
>if it grows to actually generate more money than that, it's a win Sounds great to me.
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Anonymous05/23/26(Sat)09:20:18
>>34553014 >I don't like frontend BTW, I find it very easy to build the backend of anything I want, but I hate frontend, it's just tiring It's cool, I managed okay with frontend and backend but I did pretty well when it came to frontend work for moat of my work.
>>34550926 >>34553376 >>34554512 >>34555940 >>34556713 Guys, let's join together and create some SaaS, then. That's actually perfect. But I can't tell who OP is or whether you guys are the same person. I had dropped my Discord ID before, but I usually get nervous and end up deleting it.
With that in mind, I created a Discord server called "SaaS Server." The invite will last for 7 days. Anyone who thinks they can contribute in a meaningful way is welcome to join us in the meantime. Depending on the number of people, we can assemble one or two teams. It's going to be an interesting experiment: https://discord.gg/MepMcc4d
>>34552299 Get a full checkup but push for them to check your t-levels too. It is better to be thorough about this stuff.
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Anonymous05/24/26(Sun)10:34:59
Sorry for the delay in responses, this weekend is more busy than expected, will followup properly when possible.
>>34553840 >You'll become one though if you fully convince yourself that you are, you'll self sabotage yourself at almost every opportunity I only realised that last year, thankfully I've been trying to get out of my own way more. It takes a lot of effort though.
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Anonymous05/24/26(Sun)17:16:38
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Anonymous05/24/26(Sun)20:39:49
>>34546883(OP) My mindset went from: >loser > life-little person (PC play on intellectual-midget) > lazy man's version of an upstanding person
Just have to keep making progress little-by-little.
Also, what course did you take to teach English?
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Anonymous05/24/26(Sun)20:57:32
>>34546883(OP) Give up and “enjoy” the culture slop the woke have deemed fit to force upon us
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Anonymous05/24/26(Sun)22:16:34
>>34556907 I'm the Op, once I get my crummy discord account working again I'll pop into that channel. Thank you for the invite.
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Anonymous05/24/26(Sun)22:18:36
>>34546883(OP) Trying being me, 36. Working min wagie retail job (which is actually enjoyable desu, we sell 2nd hand goods)
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Anonymous05/25/26(Mon)07:33:48
>>34560703 >what course did you take to teach English? It was a 120 hour online course, for TEFL AND TESOL.
I'll provide better details once I am ready to use my laptop again.
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Anonymous05/25/26(Mon)20:40:53
>>34560766 >Give up I gave up on a lot of big things already, I got tired of doing that too.
All I'm looking for is a decent way to make a living and to take care of the people and things I care about.
I'm not trying to be Batman, I just wanna be able to survive and chill three to four days out of the week.
But yeah fair enough, I shouldn't get my hopes up too high.
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Anonymous05/25/26(Mon)20:51:15
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Anonymous05/25/26(Mon)21:11:14
>>34547265 >I live in an apartment and work full time and i feel like a loser because im emotionally underdeveloped as a grown ass man I suppose I am in a similar situation. I will stop letting my mood dictac for now, I'll just focus on getting some schmoney without having to die for it.
>Only things that make me feel better about that are gym/running and my hobbies Also a good point, taking better care of myself is easier with actual money but I'll avoid making myself weaker from now on.
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Anonymous05/25/26(Mon)21:53:40
>>34560966 Any advice for a schmuck like me, any mistakes I should be desperately avoiding? Besides my current failures I mean.
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Anonymous05/26/26(Tue)11:43:30
>>34562315 I am Certificate in TEFL and TESOL: >Teaching English as a Foreign Language (TEFL) >Teaching English to Speakers of Other Languages (TESOL)
Basically, I can teach English to anyone of any background so long as I can have a proper class with them online or in person.
My relevant experience comes from me tutoring and helping many of my other family members and neighbors as well as the time I have spent working as a teacher's assistant during highschool.
English was my best subject in school, and so was Research in college but I doubt those two mean much without a ton of job experience to fluff them up.
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Anonymous05/26/26(Tue)16:15:43
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Anonymous05/27/26(Wed)10:26:31
>>34556907 Sorry for not joining yet, it's just been one whole week of bad luck so far.
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Anonymous05/27/26(Wed)22:33:12
>>34546883(OP) On a related note, do you guys have any advice on getting better sleep?
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Anonymous05/28/26(Thu)14:07:36
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Anonymous!!cRDtpNCeBiq05/28/26(Thu)14:19:14
>>34571699 There are no magical answer here. Sleep, eat right, don't doom-scroll, apply for a 1000 software jobs that pay below market, work 10-12 hours a day.
Why some people do or don't, no one knows to this day.
>>34570063 You can ask ChatGPT, it's been the same answer for 50 years. Stop caffeine at like 10am, go to sleep on time, sleep 7-9 hrs, comfortable temp, completely dark, quiet, ear plugs and eye cover if needed, get off computer hour before sleep, don't eat right before bed, yada yada. Consistent schedule matters a LOT.
>>34560966 >>34563716 Drive a truck, join the military, or get into a nursing program. None of the other shit will get fixed at your income level.
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Anonymous05/28/26(Thu)18:01:26
>>34570063 Depends on why you aren't getting enough sleep.
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Anonymous05/28/26(Thu)18:04:48
>>34546883(OP) just be yourself. it's not like you have a choice. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Af-k9sTAYEQ&ra=m
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Anonymous05/29/26(Fri)00:23:36
>>34572094 I struggle to keep my mind at rest during the night, I keep replaying my stressers and mistakes in my mind.
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Anonymous05/29/26(Fri)18:33:29
my family is a fucking nightmare
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Anonymous05/29/26(Fri)19:52:11
>>34546883(OP) Practice your tech and IT skills outside of work. Have passion projects and you will soon be employed.
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Anonymous05/30/26(Sat)16:22:01
>>34571713 >get into a nursing program I can't get into the military or truck driving where I am but the last one seems most possible at this stage.
The military in my home country does nothing for a career and I need citizenship for the overseas militaries, so money is still the issue then.
Anything to consider with the nursing program?
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Anonymous05/31/26(Sun)02:43:17
>>34571713 >You can ask ChatGPT, it's been the same answer for 50 years Great, thank you.
I'll be using these notes tonight.
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Anonymous05/31/26(Sun)19:38:15
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Anonymous05/31/26(Sun)19:48:50
>>34568227 >Sorry for not joining yet, it's just been one whole week of bad luck so far. The invite expired. We're in 6 people rn, have you joined? If you want I can generate another one, we already talked about a few things and there's a poll going on.
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Anonymous05/31/26(Sun)23:30:39
>>34571713 >There are no magical answer here. Sleep, eat right, don't doom-scroll, apply for a 1000 software jobs that pay below market, work 10-12 hours a day
Understood, I am getting my sleep and nutrition in order.
I'll put the rest into practice where I can this week. No phone for 45 minutes before bed too.
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Anonymous05/31/26(Sun)23:53:33
>>34582153 >The invite expired. We're in 6 people rn, have you joined? Not yet, sorry. Last week was a kick in the ass.
>If you want I can generate another one, For the sake of convenience, I will let you know in a follow up post when I am ready to pop in. I don't wanna keep you in suspense or inconvenienced.
>we already talked about a few things and there's a poll going on That sounds awesome, looking forward to it when I am ready.
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Anonymous06/01/26(Mon)15:07:11
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Anonymous06/01/26(Mon)22:35:27
>>34575222 >Practice your tech and IT skills outside of work I am trying to do so with YouTube videos, trying to get more comfortable focusing on my own again.
>Have passion projects I'm sorry if I kee making myself look a fool but how do you narrow down a passion project? My interests are very visual and all over the place.
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Anonymous06/02/26(Tue)13:51:49
>>34572106 >just be yourself. it's not like you have a choice I don't think that'll really work until I evolve myself beyond what I am. Without torturing myself though, l tried it before and it didn't help. Anyways, money is the main concern.
I'll look at this video too as well by the way, just in the middle of something.
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Anonymous06/02/26(Tue)20:28:38
I should be able to join that discord channel properly this week.