>>34612976(OP) Get to know women initially over a general period of time where you get a feel for if they're stable, have shared values and goals for the future, and how they expect you to behave as the man of the relationship (modern even splits or more trad-like). As the man and pursuer 95+% of the time, you'll probably need to accept that you will have to pay for the first date to keep the initial momentum going. Pick cheaper spots around the city that are quality but still impressive. Otherwise, stick to fun bar spots or tapas spots where you can still get that interaction in early without blowing up the wallet.
Ignoring the possibility of this being a staged video, its really hard for me to take her seriously just by how eager and focused she is on recording. Even if the date was going well and ended amicably, feeling the need to post so much about initial dates like this are an extreme turn off
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)19:10:38
>>34615182 so what's your intention with the woman? Is it really worth all this effort? I've tried this a ridiculous number of times and never met any woman worth marrying. At this point just saving my money.
>>34615205 Would you still avoid women if you weren't ugly?
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)19:24:04
>>34612976(OP) You would have to be a guy who women want to use for this to be a problem for you.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)19:28:45
>>34615201 I prefer being friends with benefits with women who I happen to know via social hobbies or my extended friend group. A day out here and there is fun but its usually just a mutual understanding that getting off is the main purpose.
As far as if its worth all the effort for the purpose of marriage or life-long partnership? That's up to you. I personally don't think app dates are worth it for that purpose, too many of creators, bots, and women interested in a free meal for the effort to be worth it. If you're semi decent looking (not a turbo manlet, not fat, not dressed like an elementary schooler dressed by mom) and don't mind committing a month or so to getting yourself out there, then I think that's a better path. That's just my experience though.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)19:29:11
>>34615227 I'm actually pretty good looking but yes, in your hypothetical I would still avoid them. Too many problems, too much bs.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)19:44:04
>>34615271 >fwb I've done this too but it always ends up being kind of fucked when we catch feelings, more obligations come up and then I realize I'm wasting my time with someone who does fwb with guys, which I'd never want to have kids with.
>app dates where do you meet? I mainly met off Hinge, Bumble and Tinder. I've also met a bit around bars or co-ed sports, but the issue with hobbies is that you can only really date one girl out of the group and need to commit being a regular to really get a chance meeting out of there. For me it was never worth it, hence why I focused on dating apps.
Now just letting it happen randomly if I'm out and about or get introduced from social circles for a wife worthy girl or will just see an escort if really bored of porn maybe once a month, which gets the dating monkey off my back.
>>34615272 >Too many problems, too much bs. What would it take for you to consider them? Pretty much in the same boat. White, tall, low bodyfat, muscular, well off, but I don't think it's worth it unless one's like a legitimate male model or from a well connected/rich family.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)20:00:36
>>34615325 >What would it take for you to consider them? At this point? Theres nothing that would ever make me reconsider. I've learned and seen them and their nature for what they truly are. I'm completely checked out. Might consider a waifu bot or something if they ever become advanced enough. Probably won't happen my lifetime though, whatever
>>34615376 So, even if a beautiful young girl came into your life, you wouldn't try to give it a shot? Do you have anything you look forward to in the remainder of your life? For me it was building a family, so kind of depressed now realizing it's probably not a good idea. I'm looking for other ways to channel my energy like art and hobbies, though. I feel it's all just becoming one distraction after another until the ride's over.
>>34615272 >"You can't fire me, I quit!" Imagine living life this perpetually cucked
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)20:14:20
>>34615391 >So, even if a beautiful young girl came into your life, you wouldn't try to give it a shot? No. I'm done. Completely. Don't need sex, companionship, intimacy, or all of that other crap. >Do you have anything you look forward to in the remainder of your life? Not really, not that I care. More than content to take it one day at a time. >For me it was building a family, I never had any desire to have kids or start a family from the get go, so I cant relate. >Im looking for other ways to channel my energy like art and hobbies Yeah thats what I spend most of my time doing as well. Thanks to not bothering with chasing tail (and some luck) I was able to effectively retire really early. I'm basically a hermit neet with money.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)20:16:30
>>34615402 >"You can't fire me, I quit!" I did quit though.Why does this upset you? I made my choice. You are aware that not everyone wants the same things right?
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)20:26:22
>>34615406 >(and some luck) I was able to effectively retire really early. I'm basically a hermit neet with money. did you buy BTC or something? my plan is also just retiring early but no gambles (I have bad luck every time I've tried), just maxing out retirement account and putting it all on VT while stacking every year. Should be done within a decade.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)20:34:51
>>34615449 >did you buy BTC or something? What basically happened is a wealthy relative I knew and was on really good terms with passed away and left me their wealth. So I invested it. They had no kids but I was still shocked, thought he'd leave to a sibling or something.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)20:53:34
>>34615462 Yeah, guess that's the most common way people retire early. Unfortunately my parents are dirt broke, so can't rely on anything. My uncle is very well off but haven't heard from him in a few years, so likely nothing either. My best bet it seems is just live like a monk and throw as much into retirement accounts as possible. I'm the only person I know doing this, so I can't really relate to anyone irl t b h
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)21:10:39
you take her on inexpensive/free date if she expects expensive date and after that doesn't at least suck your dick then leave her
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)21:21:23
>>34615325 Fwbs work for me since I'm pretty good about divorcing feelings from it. I'm also just not interested in getting into a romantic relationship with 99% of the women I end up friendly so its usually the lady catching feelings and from there its up to them to leave. I never lie about how I feel so i never feel like I'm taking advantage of anyone (also, women who have caught feelings but know its a dead-end relationship end up fucking the best just before they decide to end things from my experience).
I hear you about the hobbies point but I've been trying to get better socializing and communicating overall so I already have additional incentive to go outside of meeting women. Apps can work but I only ever bother when I know I'll be in a major city and know I'll be in the mood to give it a proper effort. >>34615536 Pretty much this. Money can make some women drop the panties easier but the black pillers aren't wrong about women making it easy for the men they like. Getting in shape and being upfront about my niche hobbies got me way further than shelving out money for instagrammable and expensive dates