/adv/ — /htgwg/ - How to Get Women General #350

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I had great successes with with the
>bait
>hook
>reel
>release

verbatim is like
>you look like my ex or have the same hair as my ex or i always loved [ethnicity] or that’s a beautiful name are you [ethnicity]?
then
>oh no (her ethnicity/type) are trouble. I gotta get away from you i don’t get a long with (ethnicity/type)
maybe she’ll chase me or maybe she won’t but i typically run into her later or something and hit it off.

>show interest
>deny her
which
>invites her to pursue you or sets you up for later

How many dates does it take for the conservative bitches to be comfortable with sex

Am I not ready for this general yet if I'm still trying to figure out how to find opportunities to talk to women in the first place? I feel like I'm able to hold a conversation pretty well, but it seems socially unacceptable to initiate in every context I can possibly imagine.

>>34619361
That’s a common topic here.

>>34619382
Great, sounds like it'll be worth lurking for a while then.

To get the ball rolling, for anons who are past this step, what's your go-to method for finding social situations to place yourself in? Platforms like meetup.com are basically useless, and I'm pretty sure no normie would ever use them.

>>34619361
Sure some places are better than others for meeting people but what many do incels don’t understand is that it’s not where you meet and talk to girls rather the manner in which you speak to them.

For whatever reason, chuds think that if you talk to a girl anywhere it’s morally wrong as if you were treating a coffee shop the same as a bar/club.

In a club, you can get away with a lot more and say some pretty crazy shit because that’s the atmosphere for it. It’s a place for loose conversation open to sexual innuendo and teasing. That same conversation won’t work when you’re standing in line at the bakery waiting to hit on the cute girl behind the counter. Time and place for everything, it shouldn’t be hard to distinguish if you are a well adjusted adult which is ultimately the base level of attraction for most women.

But to answer your question, yes you can ask girls out anywhere but basically be more respectful and mannerful at certain places than others.

For any of the younger dudes here early twenties or so use your energy now to secure girls now. I find it much more difficult and more of a drag to want to initiate conversations and approach in general now that I’m late twenties use that spark and motivation now bros

>>34619455
>it’s not where you meet and talk to girls rather the manner in which you speak to them
I think I have a pretty decent grasp of the latter, but there has to be a "where" in the first place for any of this to apply.

>chuds think that if you talk to a girl anywhere it’s morally wrong as if you were treating a coffee shop the same as a bar/club
I don't think it should be wrong, but a lot of normies do seem to act that way. The first thing any woman will think when you cold approach them is "This guy is trying to fuck me. He is clearly stepping over boundaries that he doesn't know exist, and this implies that he will continue to overstep other more important boundaries if I keep interacting with him". This is why conversations are supposed to start *naturally* or not at all. Even when oen does start naturally, any blatant attempt at escalation will be viewed the same as stated prior.

>In a club, you can get away with a lot more and say some pretty crazy shit because that’s the atmosphere for it.
I've been interested in the concept of clubbing for this exact reason. It seems like one of the only places where it's not socially detrimental to deliberately initiate. I still don't know much about how they work or how to make a night out of it, but it's something that I plan on just throwing myself into soon, even if I end up embarrassing myself by not knowing what I'm doing.

>yes you can ask girls out anywhere
I disagree (even though I know I am the least qualified person to give my opinion on the matter). There is absolutely nothing you can do/say that will make it acceptable in the eyes of others to approach a girl at the supermarket or at the train station. People there are not there to flirt, they are there to get their errands over with, and I respect that. The only problem is that there are no grey areas. It seems to be clubs or don't talk to anybody ever, though that can't be true because I wouldn't think that most normies meet each other at clubs.

>>34619455
Base level attraction is face and height. Foids are barely sentient resource and should be respected less than a dog. Why do you evil abortionists always lie? Is it because you're ultimately nothing more than extension of Jews?

>>34619504
You just need to get a gf.. then break up with her. You’ll be right back in it in no time.
>>34619521
>where
anywhere that isn’t inside your house. you can walk out your door and meet someone pretty much anywhere. Ideas of places to go is anywhere you frequent. local delis pizza ice cream anything parlors have cute girls working there. supermarkets, work etc
>a lot of normies act that way
yes that’s why the country is the way it is now. that’s why those with social skills have zero limits.
>the first think any woman thinks when you hit on them
you have no idea and stop trying to act like you do. also who fucking cares, if you know what you’re doing then she’ll be begging for you to fuck her by the end of the interaction kek
>conversations are supposed to..
kek don’t limit your mind in this way brother
>socially detrimental
this is sad to read
>throw myself into it
Yes. best thing you can do. Get out of your comfort zone and learn the ropes
>not acceptable to approach a girl at a supermarket or a train station
kek are you serious? these were common locations at one point. again you’re framing this like some creep is harassing people in a public setting. Have you ever considered that you can get a girls number in public just by having an extremely casual conversation with her?
>it seems like clubs or never talk to anyone ever
that’s because that’s not reality. it’s the fact that everyone under the age of 30 is on glued to their phone and can’t socialize

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>>34619534
>t.

>>34619621
What you describe is completely alien to my observed reality. I don't recall ever seeing strangers just start talking much less flirting out of nowhere in these settings. I've never heard anybody talk about that kind of behavior like it was normal, but I have heard people call behaviors much more benign than that creepy.

You have to be trolling, because that's just not the world we live in. Can you tell us any stories of how you've picked up women in supermarket-tier scenarios?

>>34619668
This is why I genuinely hate coming on here anymore and i’m not even that old. I just had a casual conversation with a cute girl in line in front of me at dunkin. i didn’t get her number but we chatted for a few minutes while we waited for the indians behind the counter. The other day I was at the dealership to drop off my truck with like 10 people in the waiting room, I was the youngest one in the room and the only one not on my phone. An old man who looked irritated was pissed about his car taking over an hour for an oil change and berated the worker. When he sat back down in the room I said to him jokingly “That’s terrible. I’m getting my computer reprogrammed, looks like i’ll be here for the next 6 hours” got a couple chuckles and within 10 minutes half the room was talking to each other. It’s just small things like this. I have no idea how this is inconceivable to you, i’m only 29 too.

But that’s how I go about picking up girls in casual settings like that. I have no ulterior motive and i’m not pursuing them at all, I just spark a conversation about whatever and go with the flow

>Start talking to women.
>Now have less time to shitpost on 4chan.
It's over...

How much does money matter when it comes to dating in your early to mid 20s? Haven't been in a good place financially this past year so I want to know if dating is a pointless endeavor.

>>34620044
Enough to pay for dinner drinks and cash. You’re in your 20s, everyone is broke.

>>34619355
2-3 max
>>34620044
It shouldn't, have the bare minimum, the outlier is money game.

Checking both those digits.
Yesterday date went really good, got those kisses and planned already the follow up for this Sunday to cook and fuck.
>It's really that simple.
And for the other anon on the before thread saying I should waste my time texting a retard that's gonna waste my time like "Chad" no I simply move on to the next thing, there's others lined up to me, willing to meet. No point to play games with a foid that realistically it's a 7, would put on with the bs if it's a stacy ofc.

>>34619775
Yeah, but don't you want to get to a point where you can rely on yourself from now on? I am at that point now and now I don't feel ashamed for being autistic in the real world. I can handle it now. Even though I did not become a father I did become the leading man I wanted to be.

>>34619521
>train station
Alright, this explains quite a bit, which antisocial euro country are you in?

>>34620303
Any northern one, go to the south and all the chads are hitting up the girls regardless of the location/place they might be in.

>>34619355
I always go for it as soon as possible, I'd be willing to wait 3-4 dates, anything more than that, she'd have to special and I'd need assurance that sex is happening sooner than later
>>34620044
You can't be broke, but you don't have to be rich. First date shouldn't be a dinner anyway, as long as you're able to afford a coffee or a drink or two every few weeks you're good to go

>>34619355
The three date rule is pretty common for a reason

>>34620472
Three date rule is bit strict, but if by the third date we don't at least make out, I'm out

It’s just genetics you fucking idiots
If you’re a good looking White guy but act like a sperg you’re still gonna get good pussy

>>34620546
Yes, but you can still increase your smv by getting fit and improving your status and charm.
But good genes is everything indeed.

>>34620581
Ya but you see those confident/cocky Indians or Africans who try to hit on a woman with value (not a slut/drug addict/low self esteem etc.) and they’ve maxed out their genetics but it’s still super cringe because it’s still not enough to score a high value woman

People underestimate the race pill too

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>>34620603
Yes, but those people should stay in their respective shitholes. Disgusting brownies.
Still, unfortunately we got coal burners thanks to Jewish propaganda, so some women do prefer blacks kek. I could never date a race mixer ho, and also I dislike everything except white foids (even though for pumps and dumps i don't mind other races).

Related to this thread, I'll be starting a rotation soon again God willing, already getting the one on Sunday (sex). Going on a 1st date with the 24yo Stacy on Monday (as long as she doesn't bail out, hopefully not) and got another women set for Friday, so that's 3 already. I also got in the background a 26yo Muslim but obviously not my personal preference, and a 29 yo Tunisian (white, brown eyes), but i prefer the first 3s i mentioned since they are all blondies. Also a 35yo redhead (dyed) but she's already old for my taste, but not bad looking, but tattoos too which is another negative. But she's very eager in trying to catch up, but I know it will be disappointing I hate leading women on and then ghosting.
Also don't wanna over exhaust myself with the dates, but probably will reserve Saturday for little Stacy if Monday goes good and she doesn't flake or some of the other ones in the backlog kek

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>>34620546
picrel isnt genetics retard. the large amount of endomorphs and ectomorphs exist today because of their environment (too much video games, no exercise, shit food)

look at pigs. there are no wild pigs in the Americas, every pig whether the chad wild boar to the fat pink domesticated pig all descend from a pig. the same reason chads and incels look different for the same reason. one was eating good and playing sports his whole life and the other was on his pc playing vidya

GENETICS IS THE ULTIMATE COPE

>>34620621
>Dark eyes which are not even brown.
>Receding hairline.
>Probably around 28-30 yo
>Looks like a literal famine Jew.
>Nooo this is not genetics
Literally bad genes sperg. He can get fit and improve greatly overall, but that face has no fixing

>>34620614
Why would you even commit to a girl if she isn’t a virgin?
You sounds like me when I was a teenager tho I didn’t discriminate racially (not for sex anyway) but today I could never fuck an ethnic - it’s too gross
>>34620621
Are you ethnic? You just made a post so dumb only an ethnic could write it

I bet you’re desperate for a White girl tho? Cuz you want the genetic upgrade
> her biggest mistake is your greatest achievement
It’s a status symbol to you monkeys for a reason kek

>>34620627
I'm an avoidant and have serious commitment issues, so I'm gonna re-run a rotation. I'm not delusional of finding a virgin girl at this current age. I would settle with the 24yo Stacy and breed her though. I can imagine she could have from 10-50 bodies depending if she had stable relationships or was/is the sort of clubbing girl. I'll find out on Monday.
Yeah, that's why I'm still reluctant on the Muslim and the Tunisian even though they still are "white" (not fully at all, since both have brown eyes) and i do hate muslims so there's that too. But for pump and dumps i don't mind. It's just the time and effort of going for the dates, when I'm running the other better options which are pure whites (blonde and blue eyed)

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Met a 20 yo Ukranian girl doing erasmus 2 weeks ago at drawing meetup. We exchanged IG's. Should I dm' her trying to set up something this afternoon?

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>>34620632
Where do you meet girls nowadays? Since I graduated from uni a few years ago, it’s just been nightclubs or work (I get lots of matches on tinder but find the women gross as an adult - sex isn’t enough of a novelty to justify entertaining them)

Also, you can find white virgins around? Not at a nightclub or tinder kek but they do exist. If you’re late 20’s early 30’s you can still find one (especially if you’re in America)

How could you date a non-virgin? She’s not a traditional woman but she’s expects you to be a traditional man who commits? Pays for things? Treats her well?
What’s she contributing? Second-hand (more like tenth-hand) pussy? … lucky guy…

>>34620637
Is she into you or is she just being friendly?
In Europe, men and women socialize platonically so don’t assume anything just cuz she gave you her IG, but she could be into you too

>>34620641
>Is she into you or is she just being friendly?
I just met her for 2 hours, chatted a bit for like 20 min? I know, I thought I'd shoot my shot, because I have nothing to do this afternoon. but it's probably a waste of time.

>>34620644
Give it a try, you don't lose anything at all.
>>34620639
I'm 35 nigga, I'm not delusional, plus why would I expect a virgin when I'm upwards of 3 digits bodies myself?
I do online dating exclusively, i don't like clubbing anymore (which I did and was good when younger) but then again for me it works because I'm effectively attractive so I don't have issues getting girls. I'm in Europe, i don't expect a virgin puritan girl, I rather have superior genes and put aryans into this gay earth. That's all, I don't mind providing for the right ho since I'm also in a good financial position.
Tomorrow I'm banging the girl I literally met yesterday. That's how I roll, tho she's 31 (my cutoff range age wise) but at least 1.78m and blonde, blue eyes. And if you care to know somewhat a lower body count since she was in a relationship from 17 till 30 and dude blew it off. So i reckon in her case could be lower than 50 probably around the 25s mark if I would make an accurate guess.
Also you americans with your delusional virgin ideas, at least i have my foreskin you mutts kek

>>34620639
And to add, i would never marry in this age. Unless the bitch has more money than me, which would be hard to find and they are already gone by my age. So no point in getting married nowadays

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28 yo polish whore, just matched in hinge.
>Noooo you can't be banging non virgins
I will, look at this buttons kek.
Let's see if she even replies back tho

>>34620647
I’m Dutch, I just grew up in the states for a few years
Don’t you get sick of constantly fucking new girls tho? The Netherlands has this degenerate sex culture and I got sick of it after 2 hookups in uni

When my parents were raising me in Saudi Arabia, it was fun to do a hookup as a teen because if you get caught you get executed publicly (no shit). It added this adrenaline rush to the sexual experience.
When I lived in conservative areas of America as a teen, you can hookup but it’s socially taboo. What guy wants to commit to scraps? So there was a bit of a rush because of how taboo it is
In Holland? There’s zero taboo. You can treat the women like absolute sex objects and they’re too stupid to know any better. The Jews brainwashed them into being sluts to humiliate us and lower our birthrates. What this means is hookups are so empty and meaningless- like fucking a blowup doll. No effort required, no skill - nothing. It gets old so quickly and you crave a meaningful relationship

How tf can you still be doing this stuff at 35? I’m 27 and I got sick of this shit when I was 21
It’s just rare to find a girl worth actually sticking with long term

>>34620659
Bang non virgins - it’s not problem :’)

Committing to non-virgins? That’s a huge fucking problem unless you’re a cuck

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>>34620626
genetics is cope

pigs can one to the other in a single generation and it’s entirely based on their environment and diet

>>34620626
That kid would look radically different if he had a landscaping job in high school rather than play video games all day. Manual labor and working out literally change your facial and bone structure and biology.

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>>34620666
> his cope for having skin the color of my shit
Ya totally ranjeesh
Some hot 11/10 white girlie is sure to want to downgrade her genetics with you… because… genetics are just… cope… or something…?

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>>34620661
I'm in the Netherlands nigga. It's a dog eat dog world out there. So I'm a manwhore and cope by fucking sluts. I had my rotation of 4 chicks max which I dropped for a stupid fucking gf i literally broke up a week back (dutch). So now I'm gonna resume and bang everything that moves and I consider an 8+ at least.
Netherlands is indeed fucked, and it's also one of the toughest markets for online dating, so if I do well here, it's because I'm indeed top 10% men out there. At my level you don't commit, you just fully accelerate into hypergamy. I'm too far gone to change, it is what it is.
>>34620665
I will commit only to a young Stacy that will breed me at least 2-3 chads. Else I'll bang and drop
>>34620666
Checked Satan, the thing is, I'm not a pig like you. I'm superior genetics, the ultimate gentleman

>>34620674
Don’t you get turned off by how direct girls are there? It’s so sleazy and off putting - there’s no conquest
I’ve never had any issues dating but desu even tho women in the Netherlands call me hot, and I get lots of attention there - I don’t feel like a genetic specimen like I do everywhere else
If you’re in the top 10% of men in the Netherlands - you can get good pussy anywhere
Why don’t you find a decent wife abroad then? Why waste your time fucking randstad sluts who have more STD’s than brain cells

>>34620678
Girls are never direct still. And online dating means they also suck and put minimal effort in texting, so they are as passive as they get. I try to keep my bar high so at least I'm dating attractive chicks. And i work and live in the Netherlands, so I'm not gonna go to fucking Romania or another eastern European shithole to pick other young sluts. Enough with the fucking Ukrainians here that are indeed materialistic whores and literally offer 0 value apart from their cold hole. I also dislike them plenty since they are the most superficial whores out there and it's pure money game for them.
Ateast the dutch bitches once they like you start buying you the drinks so the investment goes a bit 50-50 after all.
I literally spent 48 euros yesterday on the date and Sunday I'm just gonna cook a steak at mine. So I'm banging a girl for 75 euros total. No need to pay for ho's

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>>34620647
>>34620641
>>34620637
>Give it a try, you don't lose anything at all.
nvm, she liked this gay ass reel.

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>>34620671
>im not fattt! its muh genetix!!!11 we WUZ big BONED
KEK ok retard

probably not on topic but I don't feel like this deserves it's own thread

over the last month I've mainly been masturbating to pictures of my former coworker who I found on hinge and sent her a message but never got a reply. I feel guilty but she's just so sweet it feels warm and fulfiling instead of jerking off to porn. I can't just forget her because I'm highly introverted and spend most of my time alone

Does anyone have a second opinion on what this guy says:
>>34619621
>>34619764
It really seems unbelievable to me.

>>34620303
I'm in the NYC area actually. I just used it as an example of a public place.

>>34620387
She is special. How do you get that assurance though? Other than asking “are we gonna fugg? :DDDD”
>>34620503
We’ve made out.

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>>34620626
>>34620627
You guys must be picrel with this amount of cope and seethe.

>>34621117
its true and hes right. reddit is unironically better atp. as someone who had some success and is married now (which is not that hard to do if you aren’t mentally ill) i get berated for giving advice that actually worked for me. terminally online incels can not even grasp the idea of something as simple as an ice breaker conversation occurring. truly blackpilling.

>>34620639
Do not base your life’s choices on images you found on 4chan.

Idk why 20 something khhv come on here wondering why they can’t get a virgin gf now and that they’re holding out for one.

That ship has sailed. If you’re coming on here wondering how to acquire a hot young virgin who isn’t crazy then you’re on drugs.

You are already behind. You need to pick up the pace. Get fit and become sociable by simply working out and going out of your way to converse with strangers on a regular basis. Maybe if you do this you’ll meet a girl who you can have a family with.

If you find yourself criticizing this post then i’m afraid it is in fact over for you.

>>34621211

Or you can accept your fate and chase hags like this miserable millennial unc BALDCEL!
>>34621336
>>34621201

>live with family of six
>learning how to drive
how screwed am i?

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>>34621166
>Do not base your life’s choices on images you found on 4chan.
Unless they're true like the image you marked and the one I am posting right now.

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>>34622419
And this one too.