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Go to bed, Slott.

>>154216106 (OP)
Go to bed Dan.

Go to bed, Dan Slott.

I liked superior but I liked it because I didn't have an attachment going into it. If the same thing were done to a character I'm invested in by an equivalent villain in their rogues gallery I would hate it immeasurably. The arc would have worked far better done in another way without the disgusting body snatching imposterism.

You're part of why Peter has been made an IP mascot soulless shell of himself you fucking hack Slott.

>>154216177
I was trying to re-read Spider-Man from the beginning, and when I got to Dr. Octopus's first appearance I realized I kind of hated the character now. Dan Slott ruined Doc Ock for me.

>>154216356
Same thing happened to me with She-Hulk, I can't even look at her.

I liked Gage's run and was disappointed with how it ended, but I still think OP is a retard with shit taste

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>>154216106 (OP)

>>154216356
I can't look at Doc Ock without thinking about how rapey Slott made him, complete with memory shredding horrible body snatching. He's no longer some fun narcissistic egomaniacal nerd in his underwater base, he's tainted in my eyes.

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>>154216455
Slott loves making characters rapey.

>>154216356
Same thing happened to me, but during the whole Superior shit it was impossible to highlight the egregious caricature Slott was turning him into without just being drowned out by THE DIE IS CAST chanting.

>>154216470
>they're making fun of a female character being mauled against her will
Yeah Slott, that sounds terrible.
Anyone need a reminder what Peter was witness to screaming from inside his own body? Played for laughs also.

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That's about 182.5 counts of rape by deception.
Impressive!

>>154216565
>>154216455
This is the weird part for me. I liked Gage's run and anything Superior was in, like Team-Up or Daredevil, and I wasn't having this problem before. Only now I'm reading it and remembering stuff. Maybe it is due to the recent miniseries bringing back all those thoughts?

>>154216644
Slott would not survive the early parts of Superior becoming more widely known, once again comic writers are 'saved' by the thing being a niche within a niche.
It would be like Silk pheromones x 1000.

>>154216599
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SnuM7cRwww

>>154217004
I will never understand how much of a deflated balloon for drama it was when Peter returned.
Because the plot relies on everyone wearing a necklace of idiot balls, everyone he was close to failed to see the extremely obvious ruse. He should be in a state of rage and depression, not offering cookies to the Avengers. This should be the catalyst for his loner arc at least.

>>154217052
If I where Peter I would make sure Otto could only drawn breath from the assistance of a machine.

>>154217163
Everything about ASM makes more sense if you see Mephisto as being behind every editor.

>>154217206
I dunno.
I don't read apocrypha.
Everything after Harras isn't canon.

>>154217241
In a era of toyboxes, where the writer sees everything they have as disposable and nothing is sacred as nothing has weight, perhaps everything really must be apocypha.

>>154217264
They had the sheer fucking hubris to think they could do ANYTHING with these characters and it would be fine.

>>154217264
>>154217283
Like you you tell normies that Spider-Man made a deal with The Devil, They don't believe you because it's so fucking retarded.

>>154217305
You can actually see whatever respect or interest for comics die in their eyes when you mention the status quo, and how we got here.
I swear we've lost so many possible newcomers through the usual Spider-Man door, because we have this giant steaming shit sliming the doorknob.

>>154217358
I have a cousin that only reads old stuff, He won't touch or get near anything from the 2000's.

>>154216106 (OP)
You're a fucking moron because frankly, SpOck was neither Peter nor Otto in personality but some third plot-protected retard that only got away with his shenanigans because the writers had to intentionally drop everyone's iq by 100 points to enforce it until the finale where everything magically fell apart for Peter's non-triumphant return.

>>154217206
They handwaved it off by claiming that Peter technically never died in Ock's body, and that all his machine did was basically brainwash them into thinking they were the other. And yes, this is even with the whole "Ghost Peter" shit going on. So they just kind of ignored it. Though ironically, iirc in the comics Otto himself is far more angry about what happened than Peter because he remembers losing his memories over SOMETHING but he can't remember what.

>>154217403
>They handwaved it off by claiming that Peter technically never died in Ock's body, and that all his machine did was basically brainwash them into thinking they were the other.
That's retarded, it's only because Slott doesn't want to have technically killed the OG Spider-Man from the first ASM issue, and have made some homunculus ignoring matters of the soul/brain/whatever issues that a game like SOMA would raise.

>>154217438
A machine being able to able to consume your memories, convert them into digital information, and then plug those memories into another body and your soul just happens to travel with it (how and why?) would be even more retarded. The way it worked out is the method that makes the most sense.

>>154217621
No matter what they did it's retarded. OG Peter is dead and Slott killed him. The entire premise of Superior requires everyone in a world of psychics, hypnotists, clones and duplicates be handed an idiot ball. It should have been an else-worlds or alternate universe, not the OG where the ramifications have to be ignored to not trip up the next guys turn at the toybox.

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>>154217662
Reminds me of the death of personality in Babylon 5.

>>154216697
It's a shame. It's literally motherfucking issue 2 this gets to insane levels and fucking Stegman drew it. Slott would get socially castrated if he did that now. I'm surprised it hasn't been digged up and put in front of social media again.

>>154217962
>If this was going to amount to a serious confrontation is would be one thing
That's just it, there wasn't any point. There was no payoff, Otto just hands Peter back his body and all's forgiven. It's the same shit with Paul, they introduce this thing that they know will piss off readers but don't actually have any idea what sort of satisfying pay off there'd be to make it worth pissing off readers that much.

>>154218006
>Quesada literally turned Marvel into TMZ.
Okay but that doesn't mean that Harras's run of boring ass garbage was good

>>154217965
She-Hulk destroyed a whole town & they didn't address it until years later, They don't care.

>>154218016
Still better.
Spider-Man
She-Hulk
Beast
Captain America
Would still be respected to this day.

>>154218018
Did they do the bullshit "AKSHUALLY she somehow did it in a way that didn't hurt or kill anyone" they pull with the Hulk?

It will be nice knowing this entire cadre of DiDio-like deadweight will be gone in a decade or max two, there IS a natural end even if its only time marching on.
How will history remember this era between Clone Saga and whatever the fuck is next?

>>154216106 (OP)
The only good thing about this shitty disaster was Superior Foes

>>154218380
Says the guy made She-Hulk into the modern Whore of Babylon.

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Brevoort be throwin' people under the bus publicly and got the biggest most widest smile on, filled with 100% genuine amusement and whimsy.