/fa/ — /balding/ general

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Minoxidil (liquid and tabs) is a vasodialator that opens potassium channels and widens blood vessels bringing nutrients to your hair follicles, stimulating them into thickening, accelerating growth and elongating the growth phase. Min is taken with fin to restore your hair to it's original hairline, thickness and vigor when hair loss is caught early enough, (pre-NW2). Can be taken orally or topically.

Topical min does not work in 1/3 of men because they lack the required enzymes in their scalp, all men have this enzyme in their liver so the oral route is a good fallback.
The FDA formulation for 5% liquid minoxidil is food safe (vape juice, ethanol and water) and can be safely taken orally if oral min tabs are expensive or rarely prescribed where you live. As a general rule, ~4 drops (0.1ml) = 5mg minoxidil.
There's a 1-2% risk of fluid retention with higher oral dosages, start with the lowest dosage possible and work your way up when you're sure it's well tolerated.

Ketoconazole is an anti-androgen and antifungal that inhibits DHT on the scalp and used to treat fungal infections of the scalp that may be making your hair loss worse such as seborrheic dermatitis, a condition where you exhibit severe greasy, flaky large dandruff flakes with dried yellow crystals (blood plasma) embedded in the scalp. Some people may only have traction alopecia (hair loss from scratching or friction), but it will not cure androgenic alopecia on it's own. Can only be taken topically.

Do not use spirolactone. Spirolactone is a diuretic which, in large doses, inhibits testosterone and, by extension, DHT.
It is regularly prescribed as an anti-androgen for male to female HRT, and thus, comes with an astronomically higher risk of sexual side effects in men including ED, gynecomastia, and can cause potassium toxicity.

Previous thread: https://boards.4chan.org/fa/thread/18707510#top

>>18720640 (OP)
I'm just gonna be a normal old guy with normal hair loss. It's a better look than taking medicines and buying products desperately trying to pretend I'm still 20.

Once it gets too thin to look decent I'll go for the Stone Cold look and shave it.

>>18720641
>Ketoconazole
should I followe the directions on the box or is there another way of using it for balding

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I've been on finasteride for a few years. I'm pretty sure I just hit norwood 3.I should switch to dutasteride right?
1/2

>>18720654
wash your face and neck with it too if your skin tolerates it. do a patch test first, it can burn some people. works best that way because if you have a fungal infection on your scalp its probably also on your face/neck/shoulders and can make its way back to your hair.

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>>18720693
My cut has been hiding my balding pretty well so far, but I'm pretty sure it wont hide shit anymore if I don't switch to a stronger medication. Plus I heard dutasteride can bring me back to a 2.5 pretty fast is that true?
2/2

>>18720693
I can't tell from this angle if you're actually norwooding or if you just have a big forehead

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>>18720702
Both Claude and Grok say I'm NW3

Didn't read thread. If you're balding and can grow a beard or mustache or have a very square jaw, you're completely fine. If not, kill yourself. It's that simple. Source: Norwood 14 and viking beard.

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>>18720772
classic

I'm thinning. Countermeasures aside, should I switch to a bald barber who will understand my suffering better? One with an older clientele perhaps? I can't blame my current one for not being able to work miracles, I still felt a judgemental aura coming from him last time I went, and it was a miss.

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janny is a cock sucking nigger faggot

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>>18720693
>>18720695
>>18720716
all these posts are made by the janny kekke
he stole all the pictures from reddit
hes a fat trooned out nigger whos on disability in real life

>>18720880
Why would you even think that? I'm not a janny and I don't browse reddit.
anyway how bad is it? should I ask for dutasteride at my next dermatologist appointment?
One simple reverse image search shows none of these pictures are on reddit so idk what the fuck you're on anon

>>18720693
You are like a norwood 1.5-2. Hairline is straight with minor temporal recession on the right. I think your camera angles are making it look worse than it is.

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How noticeable is my thinning at the temples? Do I have a chance to get them back if I start min?

>>18720918
the general rule is you're not getting back your temples. but the square parts seem to be there. you should start fin if you haven't.

>>18720920
Yeah I'm already on dut. I don't want to risk losing more.

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>>18720880
owned. trannitor will literally NEVER recover from this...

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hey have you guys noticed almost single pic in every single "balding general" is taken from /r/balding and that this whole thread is ran by the janny to encourage low self esteem, taking endocrine distrupting drugs and suicide?

he even re named your thread from hair loss general to balding general to cause more emotional damage.

the janny is a trooned out psychopathic monster, and a misery merchant.

>>18720889
>>18720918
kys tranny janny.

>>18720952
Shizo posting

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crying about schizos?
isn't that what the janitor and his trooned out wog friend kekke do when they get called out?

like dude... youre a psychopath and arguably a serial killer. youre WAY more mentally ill than a "schizo"

>>18720957
why does the drawing representing you have a full head of hair and not a norwood 67 hairline?

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indians have the smallest dicks in the world
asian women are the most likely to date outside their race and indian men are universally seen as the least attractive in asia
betas amongst betas

>>18720957
because i have a full head of hair, trannitor. i came here to shit up your misery merchant suicide encouragement thread. not to get medical advice from a mentally ill transsexual and a shit skin jeet.

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i present you: your /fa/ trannitor, good sire.

>>18720965
so your hair is important to you, there's no guarantee you keep it without drugs, bud

im not that worried. im 40 without hair loss and my maternal grandfather's close to 100 with a thick head of white hair.

if you dont grow body hair and have a weak beard you generally dont go bald. its the same gene.

now kindly kill yourself troon!

>>18721014
not how it works. you're retarded.

>>18721012
Imagine being 40 and searching for trannies on 4chan balding thread

>Visits plebbit's /r/balding
>Visits 4chan's /balding/ general
>"I...I'm 40 without hair loss!"
Yeah I doubt that Mr. Norwood 6.

>>18721020
No, he's correct. You're retarded. Looking forward to you proving you didn't understand his post.

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>>18721034
>>18721047
imagine being a 40 year old troon who spends every day re-posting pictures of redditors from /r/balding and encouraging people to be depressed.
do you think any sort of "imagine being" matters, coming from you? you're a fat middle aged trooned out misery merchant who has no friends both online and in real life who spends all day doing this.

>>18721092
You're angry because you're bald.

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>>18721047
>>18721096
norwood zero timestamped.
cope, you trooned out misery merchant.

/schizo/ general

>>18721101
pull your hair back and show your hairline instead of brushing it forward you emo fag

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>>18721103
sure thing.
now its your turn:
can you post a timestamped picture of yourself to show us you aren't a trooned out freak?

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>>18721102
schizos are cooler than misery merchant psychopaths like you.
schizoids are responsible for a very large amount of paradigm changing scientific discoveries.
schizotypials and schizophrenics can be entertaining.
you have the worst kind of mental disorder, an anti-social one that harms other people. its also strongly comorbid with psychotic disorders.

>>18720640 (OP)
I have long hair like the joker. It already looks bad and a buzz cut might look worse as it won't conceal my hairline, but it's tempting to do because I had a buzz cut earlier and it was more comfy. What do you think guys?

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>>18721103
post a pic of yourself with a time stamp now
you aren't a vulnerable narcissist, are you?

>>18721081
No. You're the retard.

>>18721112
either or man. theres a bunch of studies showing that nw 2-3 in the temples is seen as slightly more attractive than a juvenile hairline to women. the only problem is that once it starts it doesn't stop. you can slow it down a ton with scalp massages.

>>18721114
if i'm the retard why don't you demonstrate it and show how/why i'm wrong instead of crying and calling me names?
also did you post that time stamped picture of yourself yet to prove to us you're not a mentally ill psychotic troon?

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>>18721115
>theres a bunch of studies showing that nw 2-3 in the temples is seen as slightly more attractive than a juvenile hairline to women.
citation needed? timothee chalamet is the latest hollywood heartthrob and he has his juvenile hairline

>posts nw1 hairline
>with timestamp
owned & raped
what are you gonna do now, fat little fail-troon bitch? try to say im not 40?

>>18721116
because hairy men don't go bald and non-hairy men do constantly? are you fucking retarded. go outside some time.

>>18721119
>The AR (Androgen Receptor) gene is a primary driver of hereditary hair loss and dictates beard growth, driving the famous "androgen paradox." While this gene causes hair follicles on the scalp to shrink in response to androgens like DHT, it simultaneously stimulates hair follicle growth in the beard and body.
are you stupid?

>>18721117
can we see a time stamped picture of you, just to make sure youre not the fat poop skinned non passing fail tranny who posts in here every day?

>>18721103
Post your hairline now m8.

>>18721117
just a reminder: i look like that (my jaw line is better)
you look like a morbidly obese wheelchair tranny who's skin is the same color as my POOP lol!

>>18721120
no one knows what genes drive hair loss you fucking idiot. AGAIN I ALREADY TOLD YOU THIS: THERE ARE PLENTY OF BALD HAIRLESS MEN AND HAIRY NON BALD MEN. get a grip man.

>>18721121
the anon you replied to is kekke. he's well known as one of the most prolific resident schizos on 4chan. its a fat brown australian transsexual whos on disability and has no friends so it posts on 4chan all day.

>>18721124
how come every race that doesn't grow body hair is associated with not going bald?
dumb.

>>18721125
because their follicles are more resistant to DHT? And they do go bald. AND THEY STILL GO BALD even if at a lesser rate. you're an idiot with your stupid observations backed by NOTHING but bro science.

>>18721117
i don't think he'd make it as an average joe.

>nooooo im not a trooned out shit skin, the anons accusing me of being such are schizos
>can't post a timestamp
lol.

>>18721127
aren't you the fat trooned out wog who was promoting spironolactone as a hair loss medicine and mis-diagnosing people with alopecia areata as having male pattern baldness and telling them to take the wrong medications?
if you aren't that misery merchant demon troon freak, post a time stamp like i did.

>>18721130
>moving the goalpost
you're an idiot. and no I'm not your imaginary schizo friend I just posted to call you out on your bullshit. I don't post frequently.

>>18721132
>no I'm not your imaginary schizo friend I just posted to call you out on your bullshit.
you sure sound like /fa/'s resident schizo kekke.
hey i know!
theres a really easy way to clear this whole kerfuffle up!
why don't you post a time stamped picture of yourself?

>>18721135
again, stop changing the subject and admit you're wrong. it's good for you.