/fit/ — >Machines don't build musc—

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>>77327098 (OP)
> s 0 y ience based

I dgaf about 'machine built muscle'

I train for that functional strength. Looking aesthetic is just a byproduct of this.

>>77327164
2pl8 DL confirmed

>>77327098 (OP)
im actually really glad dyels stay on machines and dont waste anyone's time trying to use any sort of free weights

>>77327716
This. Don't discourage them. It keeps the weights available for lifters.

>>77327098 (OP)
Free weights and machines, there is no difference in stimulus if we are talking target muscles. It's just that people who typically use machines aren't pushing hard enough for it to make a difference anyways. Machines taken to failure or to a true 1rir is the exact same

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He sure looks like more like a scientist than a lifter

machine sdon't build stabilizing muscles

>>77327164
It's functionally the same you fucking retard lol

>>77327775
Then just use the free weights like a normal person

>>77327098 (OP)
a barbell that can crush you is not the same feedback loop

>>77327777
Maybe your limbs are not good length for squats or bench lol why snap your shit up why risk getting snapped up. For some people the big 5 or a few major compound lifts suit their body perfectly like me for example my arms are short and fatcep Brazilian coded so I'm perfect for bench for example, if u fuck up a really heavy squat u can ruin your life forever when u could have just done hacksquats or leg press / leg raises for the same or even a better stimulus if ur squat form is not on point which most people including mine is fairly garbage

>>77327098 (OP)
what has science to do with machines and barbells? is he retarded?

It doesn't seem right to me to have the wrists locked in the same width throughout the movement, that's why I use dumbbells.

>>77327098 (OP)
Nice clit

>>77327787
>Maybe your limbs are not good length for squats or bench lol
?????????????

>>77327775
it isn't, you're not using your stabilizers

>>77327798
For example if u have really long arms and kind of shitty shoulders bench is going to ruin your life

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>>77327798
it's not purely the length but also where the tendons attach. chimp tendons attach further from the joint than in humans, making them freakishly strong from our perspective

>>77327803
Neutral grip dumbbell work.

Any other copes you got?

>>77327833
Absolutely pointless unless you're doing it for tricep work.

The correct solution would be fuller rom bench from an incline with modified form. You bring the elbow down to 70 for the parts of the rep where the elbows are crossing to the body not to fuck with shoulder but flare them at the very bottom and in the upper half of the range.

I know it sounds bizarre but you can practice it with zero weight just in the air and feel how easy your shoulder glides through the whole range of motion. Add a bar to that and suddenly it is a chest exercise even with shit bench leverages.

There is in most cases a compound you can do no matter how much of a freak you are but it usually involves either changing where the load is centered or modifying the movment path.

>>77327728
(Stifled laughter)

>>77327803
Kek
Only if your form is trash lmao
Your upper arm angle off your torso should mirror the line from your shoulder socket down to the inside bottom corner of your pec

>>77327805
>>77327803
This is the copest of copes. Have you tried lifting the damn weights 3 times a week?