Why is this board filled with mass surveillance and anti-freedom apologists nowadays? Every thread that highlights some new totalitarian overreach policy gets instantly filled with retards either defending this shit or "just use VPN" -retards, like they'll be of any help in future if the current trend of approaching to china/russia tier whitelisting continues.
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)06:15:14
>>109059853(OP) Death to people. Enslave them all. You get what you deserve.
those kinds of people have always existed online. some of them might be glowniggers trying to get you to feel insane or give up hope, but most of them are just nihilistic retards who think that, because 3letters are so pervasive and nothing can be done to fully counteract them, then any form of common sense privacy practices are pointless. they see it as all-or-nothing, which is a reoccurring theme with people online now: you will see people refuse to learn any skill because they'll never be the best, statistically speaking.
they're all crabs, or perhaps trolls who know how to trigger schizos
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)06:25:36
>>109059853(OP) Because it's one the last places on the internet you don't need an account. So of course glowies are going to try to destroy it and spread their bullshit.
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)06:33:36
>>109059853(OP) We've done this shit for decades, the State doesn't think it's cute anymore
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)06:38:25
>>109059853(OP) These days, /g/ unironically uses and likes Windows and macOS while talking shit about Linux. It’s gotten that bad.
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)06:39:48
>>109059853(OP) 1. 4Chan attracts people with autism 2. People with autism hyperfocus on niche subjects and topics 3. Its pointless to hyperfocus on well known societal norms and subjects since they are fully and concretely fleshed out and known well by literally everyone, hence being societal norms and subjects 4. Therefore people with autism maintain obsessions with inverted/converse or obscure topics and subjects, including opinions 5. Privacy and freedom are a societal norms and accepted general human values, so autists take the opposite position.
Hope this helps.
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)06:43:26
>>109059961 >5. Privacy and freedom are a societal norms and accepted general human values, so autists take the opposite position. No they aren't, and if anything, those somewhat on autism spectrum used to be ones defending them.
>>109059853(OP) >why is this board filled with mass surveillance and anti-freedom apologists nowadays
Active shilling campaign. This is a public place, is not 2006 anymore. If you want to push a narrative, you push it here. You have all the types you mention including other more specific types. Hell, you can even see pro-Palantir golems taking a stand in favor of the survillenace state project any day of the week. Again, they prey on the mentally weak, impresionable kids in hopes of having success shaping a better global perception in service of their masters.
I wonder what the fuck do they get in return.
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)07:08:32
>>109059886 >they see it as all-or-nothing it works both ways. people assume that just because you accept that glowies gonna glow, understand that they have their reasons, and are being pragmatic about it, it means that you're in full agreement with what they do and are doing absolutely nothing to protect your data. i witnessed this pattern all over the previous thread: >this is the current situation >HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT YOU IGNORANT BOOTLICKER
people get too emotional and assume too much, which makes rational discussion very difficult
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)07:10:16
>>109059995 No. You are a kid, looking for a nanny state to protect you and your retarded offspring from the scary open virtual world. Are you really so unbelievably dumb to not understand that this has nothing to do with "protecting" kids? And anyone claiming that a very large part of the online culture since BBS's in the 80's and the early internet so dearly nostalgised by many here hasn't been shaped by nerdy teenagers has got his head deep up in his ass, and nothing like that creative culture can flourish in a controlled walled garden with government ID checks and constant pressure to "behave".
i don't think anything the glowies do is ever justified. we don't need intelligence agencies anymore, they're not even loyal to the US: just look at operation northwoods. i would rather we have a 9/11 every 30 years or so than have to deal with the paranoia of wondering if my emails about my daily routine are being read by an organization that disappears and tortures people.
but i understand where you're coming from: the intelligence agencies exist for a reason, and they do what they do for a reason.
>>109060200 the US can certainly afford to lose an intelligence agency or two.
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)07:51:57
>>109060090 i'm not sure that's what anon is trying to say. he could be saying that we don't need the government to do something we've been doing by ourselves, but it's unclear.
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)08:02:07
There's a very loud minority of rage baiters who advocate for bad things on purpose to get a reaction. They're extremely good at it, too. They're honestly very creative. This happens on every board.
>>109059853(OP) Part of the global attention span decline symptoms Calling your values shit is the most basic of baits, easy (You)s with low effort
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)09:56:34
>>109060200 >i would rather we have a 9/11 every 30 years or so than have to deal with the paranoia of wondering if my emails about my daily routine are being read by an organization that disappears and tortures people.
what, and have them justify even greater measures? that gives them what they want. violence is a massive factor that drives societal restrictions
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)09:57:42
>>109059977 >No they aren't, and if anything, those somewhat on autism spectrum used to be ones defending them.
plenty of autists do defend privacy
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)09:59:46
>>109059921 not using an account does reduce footprint somewhat but it doesn't really prove much. you can be anonymous to other users but still not really anonymous to the site itself. ideally you would have both, but that isn't really practical
>just give them what they want vs >they take MORE of what they want AND bad things happen
Let's make submitting to authoritarianism the logical choice in this dichotomy. Let's also suggest that "violence" is an inevitable outcome in the absence of surveilance, but let's not consider the fundamental underlying causes of the "violence".
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)10:30:20
>>109060608 pretty sure you can buy a pass using crypto and use Tor, which would make you fairly anonymous to the site. there's also proxy/frontend sites.
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)10:32:23
>>109060599 The hacker culture has been literally castrated and many have been recruited to glowie jobs to help build this shit.
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)10:36:22
>>109060746 well what choices are there? some things just really can't be helped.
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)10:51:44
>>109060790 Sure - but that's an entirely different point. You were trying to make Anon seem like an idiot by claiming that his anti-surveillance stance counter-intuitively results in even more of what he doesn't want. Don't try to put a spin things and then try to weasel out of it when it gets thrown back in your face.
>>109060200 >"absence of technocrat glowniggers creates terrorism" literally what is this faggot tree? if it wasn't for the cia using milnet...
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)11:33:13
I too wonder where this privacy freedom loving people are, I made and shared communication tool here that checked all the good stuff (not vibecoded, end to end encrypted, no registration/login, voice support, channels) and got pretty much 0 GitHub stars. Well, world is what you make of it, just don't complain afterwards..
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)11:35:28
>>109061029 >you got more than 0 stars for advertising a freeware communications github and are in fact complaining afterwards kekaroo
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)11:38:42
>>109059853(OP) >Why is this board filled with mass surveillance and anti-freedom apologists nowadays? glowniggers aren't just a meme.
>Given the limitations of traditional tools, more out-of-the-box tactics should be considered. One such tactic would aim at gradually making these boards less interesting for their users.
>One way to achieve this would be to regularly post content that looks genuine (using the right language, imagery, etc.) yet is meaningless – this would dilute the message of these boards and make their threads uninteresting, thereby reducing their attractiveness and sense of community.
>Recent developments in artificial intelligence enabling researchers to automatically generate credible extremist sentences make such a tactic cheap and easy to implement.
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)12:05:51
>>109061200 >spastic government shill immediately proceeds to give another demonstration of incoherent manic ramblings only designed to sound intelligent while saying less than nothing
>>109061134 Ah okay I see; sharing your experiences is bitching and chat software can be compared with art software
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)12:12:55
>>109061240 >designated bitching thread moar bitching for the bitching gods
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)12:14:12
>>109059853(OP) because resistance requires effort and inconvenience
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)12:23:42
>>109059853(OP) because turd-worlder don't care about privacy.
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)12:24:46
>>109061029 Gonna be honest the first trike is thinking we need yet another discord clone, strike two is using github for a privacy tool. >but all the other kids do it! Can't believe I have to bring this one out but if everyone start committing suicide do you too just because all the cool kids do it? The problem with wanting to attract people that give a shit is you can't compromise or go half way because at best we'll view it as a retard that has no idea what he's doing thus his software is shit, or at worst just another larp.
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)12:28:47
>>109061078 You skipped the part where moot got schlopped in by older jewish men on that island.
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)12:59:56
>>109061522 I'm glad we agree nobody mentioned it. Didn't read the rest of your post. Sorry you have literally no argument and are just arguing for the sake of arguing.
>>109061527 i don't always trigger projecting delusional faggots, but when i do, it's frequently by bringing up conduct disorder tier mental illness.
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)13:02:08
>>109061534 No idea why you're still replying. I didn't read your post and I won't read subsequent posts. The discussion is over. You can keep arguing over nothing if you want (ODD/Autism?) -. But I won't see them because I'm going to hide your posts and replies since I just don't have time for your nonsense.
You should probably ask why I could respond in under a minute with this post. It's because I had it right out of the bat because I knew you would keep responding, ince your mannerisms and behavior are so utterly predictable based on the content,
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)13:02:56
I've hidden his posts and replies, but watch this. He's going to reply again with some terrible attempt at a witty run-up, which I'm not even going to see.
>>109061418 It's another all in one communication platform. None of the features are unique, I mentioned discord specifically because that is the fucking point. Based on that description he could be talking about literally EVERY discord competitor and chat platform because they all have channels, voice support in one form or another, e2ee. The only halfway unique thing is no login/registration and that's been done to death before too.
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)14:05:08
>>109061148 It really depends on what you're trying to hide and from whom. For example, not having any social media presence or streaming service accounts means you're probably not leaving as many traces of your existence online, but it also might make you stand out more as an individual, since this is not generally considered to be normal behaviour.
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)14:12:33
>>109061742 But...Discord is not e2e encrypted and like you elluded too, it does require registration/login. Those are two big distinctions.
Also many of the done to deaf ones out there no longer exist. And unless someone has a completely new concept from scratch, the only way to make new is to build on top of what exists.
>>109059853(OP) reddit trannies got their orders, the commies follow what the media says, the media follows what the leftist communist says.
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)14:34:27
>>109061949 Explain significance and/or relevance of your find in a coherent sentence.
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)14:40:04
I think people feel like they have lost the fight for privacy. The 4th amendment has become a joke. There's no nation on the planet that cares about its citizens privacy rights anymore. The data is just too tempting for them.