Say Christianity (yes that means Islam too) never exists. It remains Jewish and eventually dies out. Rome still has all of its same societal and political problems. Eventually, they get conquered by Germanic invaders - walking into a declining pagan empire rather than a declining Christian empire. There's no church. There's no Christendom. What does Europe look like going into the Middle Ages?
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Anonymous06/09/26(Tue)06:00:45
Human sacrifices would still be common in Europe
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Anonymous06/09/26(Tue)06:05:27
>>18519927(OP) I'm not even a Christard but if Paganism still existed in Europe it would probably be a white version of India today
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Anonymous06/09/26(Tue)06:07:49
>>18519932 Probably the Mediterranean yeah. Germania and these northern and eastern and Celtic peripheries would be too martial and too sparsely populated to look like India doe.
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Anonymous06/09/26(Tue)08:12:43
>>18519927(OP) Buddhism continues its slow spread via syncretization through Persia and spread through Rome via a Persian lens of its teaching which then Rome repurposes for their own use.
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Anonymous06/09/26(Tue)10:15:23
>>18519927(OP) A Western version of Confucianism but based on the teachings of ancient Greek philosophy might have been the best alternative. But probably some other eastern superstitious cult would spread instead
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Anonymous06/09/26(Tue)13:24:47
Gothic Cathedrals would have sculptures and other artwork featuring the Roman Pantheon of Gods and heroes instead of Jesus and saints
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Anonymous06/09/26(Tue)14:02:16
>>18519927(OP) Silence is better when you don't know what you're saying.
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Anonymous06/09/26(Tue)15:08:38
>>18519932 No it wouldn't, if anything it would look more like modern Japan. Also, Pakistan and Bangladesh have the exact same fucking issues as India, so it's not a religious issue.
>>18520731 It's definitely a religious issue. Genes are also issue. Worst religion + worst genes = India.
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Anonymous06/09/26(Tue)18:48:10
I dunno bout Europe, but there'll be beautiful nude Assyrian girls wiggling and giggling with their curly dark hairs, dark kohl eyes, jingling golden jewelry, and ample bosoms
I think nordic region would form its own separate religious area from. It would be amalgamation of norse, uralic, baltic and slavic. Norse, finnic and hungarians appear to have shared similar myth or belief that world tree has one bird on top of it and its counterpart in the underworld. Finnic and hungarians sharing a myth points towards it being very old myth. I would love to know if there is similar myth among indo-euros. Because right now to me. It looks like gullingambi and Veðrfölnir and eagle are loan from uralics.
>>18519932 Exactly. Without the civilizing effects of Judeo-Christianity, the world would be doomed to eternity of barbarism.
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Anonymous06/10/26(Wed)19:47:27
>>18519927(OP) You’d get a better response from asking Google if you are looking for a historically accurate answer.
But the answer is obviously that it would look like world empires constantly rising and falling and taking over again and again as technology progresses. It wouldn’t have been like world war 1 and 2. You would have gotten world empires taking over. More like return to Wolfenstein games where they depict a nazi germany world empire. Stuff like that would keep happening. But the problem is nobody would ever hold onto it, without an anchoring truth from God. Because nobody would be worthy of having a pure heart or a good conscience. So Jesus Christ never existed to die for anyone. So the earth and humanity would just rise and fall and no leader would ever be worthy to hold that together once conquered. Most people would die before their 30s still and live very short lives for war. People think technology changed this and caused the anchor. But I would say no. It is literally Jesus Christ that allowed us to cause sanctification of sovereign nations leading to people able to have long lives and nations that endure and even have diplomacy that lasts with peace. It would be a lot more lik planetside 2 with different empires fighting all of the time for dominance.
Trump and America as a Christian nation wouldn’t exist, but let’s for sake of argument that he does magically in this world. He would just not become president because someone like obama would just stay in power and make his own democrat black people empire America as revenge for slavery and wage a war across the globe to reduce white population. But since the timeline would have actually happened differently, this too wouldn’t be happening. You’d have to follow a very bland and soulless timeline without Jesus Christ. And even then, it wouldn’t mean someone else would take his place as the Savior. There jut wouldn’t be any hope for humanity to save them from hell.
>>18523283 >without an anchoring truth from God Your “god” Yahweh is not a real god like Zeus is. Your “god” Yahweh is Typhon, the embodiment of chaos and father of all monsters. The bible itself proves this >It claims Yahweh will try to destroy this world (Book of Revelation) >It claims Yahweh is jealous of other gods (Deuteronomy 4:24 and Joshua 24:19) >It claims Yahweh is the “destroyer of nations” (Jeremiah 4:7) There's also the fact that Chaeremon, Apion, and Manetho all linked Yahweh to Set, the Egyptian god of chaos, destruction, and foreigners, whom later Egyptians equated with Typhon. You accuse the Olympians of being “demons,” but the reality is that the only "demon" here is Yahweh whom you worship. This is why your “god” forbids images of him, because he looks like this.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)01:47:00
>>18523283 >>18524018 >It claims Yahweh is the “destroyer of nations” (Jeremiah 4:7) I should also mention that the phrase “destroyer of nations” is translated from the Hebrew phrase mashkhít goyím (משחית גוים) and in some versions of the Bible, this phrase is translated as “destroyer of gentiles.” They are literally calling him the “destroyer of goyim,” this only proves that Yahweh-Typhon is a demon.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)02:17:34
>>18519927(OP) To answer that we need to first determine what the religion of Rome is during the end of antiquity. In my opinion there are more or less two options: >Rome remains Pagan in some way or another, on the vein of the state religion of diocletian, the preponderance of a mithra/sol-invictus like deity, or maybe even something like the religion of the neo-platonists. >Rome converts to Judaism, not really the Judaism of the Talmud and the Rabbis, but instead a hellenized form of the religion in conflict with the post second temple jews. Alternatively, an offshoot of Judaism like the following of John the Baptist or some possible proto-gnostic form of it.
Then, we have to paint a picture of how these two would mesh with the Roman State and then finally we can go on to disscuss the post-roman invaders.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)02:27:29
>>18524049 >Rome converts to Judaism, not really the Judaism of the Talmud and the Rabbis, but instead a hellenized form of the religion in conflict with the post second temple jews. Alternatively, an offshoot of Judaism like the following of John the Baptist or some possible proto-gnostic form of it. Judaism isn’t a proselytizing religion retard. Manichaeans and even fucking Zoroastrians had a higher chance of replacing Greco-Roman paganism than Jews ever did.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)13:53:50
>>18519932 India isn't the way it is because of Hinduism
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)15:57:48
>>18520884 It’s not, Pakistan has the exact same fucking issues and they’re Muslim
Something like Mithraism or the cult of Zalmoxis would probably turn into something virtually indistinguishable from modern Christianity.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)16:11:48
>>18524845 Hermeticism is a pagan philosophy that dates back to the Hellenistic period and thus predates Christianity, so it should not be included here.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)16:12:04
>>18524054 They were back then, dumby. Look it up, there are several freely accessible articles in the internet talking about it. Manicheanism wouldn't exit without Christianity, by the way; Mani (issues with not being born aside) was a Gnostic Christian before striking out and founding his own religion.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)16:20:43
>>18524853 I think he means the renaissance interpretation of Hermeticism and not the original philosophy. >>18524851 That's a dumb thing to say. Also, if I am not mistaken the cult of Zalmoxis was really irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, why would it ever acquire a similar position to christianity when it never even spread outside of Roman Thracia?
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)16:40:20
>>18524871 >why would it ever acquire a similar position to christianity when it never even spread outside of Roman Thracia?
Because it has similar rituals and themes regarding death and resurrection.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)16:44:29
>>18524905 But it was not universalitic, didn't seem to have a schatology, and didn't seem intent on spreading itself. It was just a cult with a reviving god.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)16:51:23
>>18524911 Well, Judaism wasn't universal either but it still bore Christianity. Anyways, we're all just speculating here. I'm just noticing that the blueprints are there.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)17:06:14
>>18524916 Judaism was (and still is, technically) universalistic. YHWH is the god of all men and everyone should worship him and no other god. Jews are just hi special little chosen people so they have to follow more laws than everyone else. >I'm just noticing that the blueprints are there. We'llI guess we can agree to diagree on that. Thanks for clarifying.
>>18519927(OP) jews come up with another trojan horse psyop
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)18:05:49
>>18520884 It's race and genetics. The Christian and Muslim parts of Sub-Saharan Africa are both hellholes.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)18:54:51
>>18524018 Actually He is the God of gods. To my God, Zeus is as real as He is. Which means Zeus is real and my God speaks through Zeus. As He said so in His Word. To me, that isn’t that far fetched. Because when I pray, He answers. And He is the God of gods. I wouldn’t want to pray to Alexander the Great’s god, as even he confessed after he defeated the world (for his day and time), that he preferred something more. And he found it in Egypt. The same place the true messiah was called from. Jesus Christ.
Alexander the Great represented white king of south aka the whites in the south, but there was also the whites in the north. Just as the Bible says. The Greeks had no knowledge of this. They were more isolated in their own civilization until Alexander the Great began to conquer and show them that their god was finite.
You wouldn’t even care though. Would you? You are arguing off topic anyway, the question is what would the world look like without Jesus Christ. And it’s exactly true that the empires would have kept rising and falling. You worship marvel comics and super heroes because you worship goats with horns. You dislike the sweet lamb that Jesus came as and died for us for. You can’t accept Jesus unless you actually had a pure heart and a good conscience. He died for you. Marvel super heroes and dc universe super heroes and stories of mighty men with super powers from their gods only breeds more of the same Islam, Roman Catholism, and Judaism that you created with Israel Zionism. Those are the three main religions right now that represent those superpower people who raise the sword and fight like goats. True Christians just spread the gospel of Jesus Christ, that is God’s kingdom on earth. If you aren’t listening then neither am I listening to your garbage gobbledygook that nobody cares about.
I ate Mediterranean food last night. I found out about gyro cooked beef and lamb, chicken. Asian food needs to learn from them. God only cares if I do.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)20:02:51
>>18525072 No, he is Typhon, you worship a shitstain demon named Yahweh-Typhon. Only tards would deny this. Zeus is the god of gods, not Typhon, cope.
Also Rabbi Yeshua Ben Pandera did not “have a pure heart” lmao, he was a Jewish supremacist who called goyim dogs and said salvation is of the Jews. The entirety of the gospels is just him calling the goyim swine who deserve to burn in hell and any dispute he had with the Pharisees was nothing more than inter-Jewish infighting. He was also a pedophile sex trafficker no different from Jeffrey Epstein. >Every one of Jesus’ apostles besides Peter was underage (neaniskos is the Greek word used) >When a woman questions why he hangs out with kids he says “don’t scandalize me” >Tells these boys he will make them “fishers of men” >Goes into upper rooms and washes their feet while naked >Tells them to “eat his flesh and drink his haima” (if you think this means “blood” here, see Ezekiel 23:20) >Is arrested in a public park at 4am with a naked boy (see Mark 14:51-52) >When the cops show up he says “why do you come for me with swords and clubs like I’m some kind of leistes” >The word leistes, which gets translated as “thief” is actually “pirate” and was used in contemporary texts (many examples such as Lucian’s Alexander) to refer to sex traffickers >Sex trafficking was a big problem in the Mediterranean and one of the big things the Romans did was crack down on the pedo pirates. >Jesus Christ was in fact crucified between two other leistes There's a reason Jesus's "Most Beloved Disciple" is always depicted as a beardless boy whereas the rest of his followers had beards. Dude liked em young.
“Salvation from damnation” is a psyop because humanity is not damned, there was never any original sin and humanity is not in some fallen and sinful state. Satan does not exist, you fell for lies and deceitful nonsense.