/jp/ — Elona/Elin Thread

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NEED

>>51029339
sorry anon she's for robots and demigod assassins only

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I wish to carry on collageanon's torch for next bread.
Godpseed him.

>>51029432
not all heroes wear capes
some have tiny little shitty ether wings

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>>51029331 (OP)
I miss loyter

>>51029432
Scut!
I WILL cuck Kumiromi some day

>>51029687
Can't cuck him if they've already broken up.

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>>51029801
They only broke up because she went insane but he still have some feelings for her. Also if he can't handle wild pussy, I will.

>>51029339
Haunted house ass pussy

I really dont see any problem in God whoring
Its literally the only way get particular followers and artifacts.
Kinda wish Noa added way to showcase artifacts in your base.

>>51030716
Can you not just put it on a display glass?

My headcanon will never be community accepted fanon....

>>51030716
The simplest change I'd go for is removing the incentive: pets don't join you and artifacts become useless trash on leaving. Collectors can knock themselves out, while running the relay gains no practical power.

Unfucking the days worshipped bonus and making punishment meaningful and interactive beyond just walking on the world map for a bit would be a good next step.

Changing gods a couple of times is expected in a long haul game, so there should be no permanent punishment. The thing is to remove perverse incentives.

>>51030875
What's your headcanon anon?

>>51029331 (OP)
Just found out after hundreds of hours there's a way to zoom without going into the map menu: just go into options, go to the input tab and under the Buttons (Adv mode) dropdowns bind middle click or middle hold to zoom.

This gives you two zoom levels to swap between - by default they're identical so you still have to go to the map tool button and select the zoom level for each.

egg egg

>>51030912
but why

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>>51031470
Eggs!

More my younger sister's pic, please

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>>51031677

Looking at mod tutorials makes me feel retarded because I don't understand any of this yet this game is supposed to be braindead easy to mod.

>>51031478
From the powergamer perspective, it allows the god rewards to be more powerful and unique instead of assuming one will get them all and so they are watered down. Do one thing well instead of multiple things passably.

For the altoholics, they can not bitch about feeling obligated to run the god relay.

For the rpfags, actually dedicating oneself to a god is serious business in the setting and people get quite fanatical, which is at odds with godwhoring.

Etc, etc, etc.

>>51032133
>For the altoholics, they can not bitch about feeling obligated to run the god relay.
Dissuading it by removing a progression option is a terrible idea. You've repeatedly pushed this but the manner in which you want to enforce it is terribly thought out. Stop trying to punish people for not playing the way you think the game should be played.

>>51032123
What is it you want to do exactly? Because it ranges from braindead fill in a fucking spreadsheet to CS Majors want to rip their hair out.

>>51032147
>punish people for not playing the way you think the game should be played
nta, but isn't that exactly what the god relay ends up doing? Punishing players for not god relaying?

>>51032147
>>51032133
>>51032162
the godwhore relay is incredibly lame and makes ever doing a new run feel awful

>>51032162
That's not what a punishment is. Choosing not to engage with a system does not mean you're being punished. This is like saying anyone who doesn't breed companions is punished because breeding is an easy way to get ridiculous stats.

Completely gimping an already established system which isn't inherently broken is a punishment. Instead of changing it in a way which punishes players it's better to change it in a way which punishes nobody and benefits those who want a more focused experience for personal/thematic/roleplay/etc reasons.

>>51032160
Create a custom adventurer and equipment.

>>51032193
First off, that's bullshit. If it was something like choosing not to use a fireflower in mario, that'd be one thing, but traditional god runs aren't fun to start with, and you're severely gimping yourself if you don't do it, at least in Elona. I don't consider monotheism in Elin to be all that bad, but I also don't try to minmax or hit floor 2000+ void.
>>51032233
You need like 2 or 3 files unless you want to do something super fancy. Package.xml with your details filled in, a spreadsheet with a table for your adventurer, a table for your gear, and maybe some images if you want it to look different.

>>51032162
>>51032168
Removing a benefit is the same thing as incurring a punishment. No meaningful difference, all the quibbling about positive and negative reinforcement aside. Same thing happens with ELOB and whatever the flavor of the month meta is, people end up doing it because they feel obliged to for progression. It's not surprising ELOB and milk are still on the slate for nerfs.

The godwhore relay is a drag even with the best strategies, dissuades alts, and homogenises playthroughs. Remove that slog and buff gods individually to make their playstyles more distinct.

Keep the option open for demigod players, since that is their gimmick.

>>51032238
>Package.xml with your details filled in, a spreadsheet with a table for your adventurer, a table for your gear, and maybe some images if you want it to look different.
I understand the general gist of things but I have no idea how to actually implement it even after looking at tutorials. Is there a template or something available somewhere that I can just fill in to create the stuff I want to make?

>>51032133
From a normal person perspective you can just not do the god relay

>>51032238
A good example is Opatos Hammer. That thing will carry you to void and beyond, as the doubled life and earthquake proc is just too good. Not getting it means severely gimping yourself to the point it's an obligation.

>>51032250
It's called Excel you fucking gonk. If you can't even make a goddamn spreadsheet, you're too stupid to bother making a mod. Ask someone who has two braincells to rub together to make it for you.

>>51032274
this doesn't work. Every player starts off as a normal player, then they end up forced into the god relay if they play the game for more than 10 hours

>>51032302
Yes I'm aware. What I can't figure out is how to actually implement it as a mod. Like... surely if you have ten character mods it's not loading the entire table ten times and only reading the single new line from each of them.

>>51032312
What are you talking about? You make a folder, you put the package.xml into the folder, you put the xlsx file into the folder, it's now a mod.
You want 10 characters, put in 10 lines, you literally don't have to do anything else. If you don't know how to operate computers, maybe this isn't for you.

>>51032305
not really, I still didn't do it on my second 300h char

>>51032324
Wall of text tutorials simply aren't how I learn things. Applicable examples are. I can create complex context-driven AHK scripts just by patchworking various examples together but I don't know shit about writing code myself and I'm never going to bother to learn.

>>51032249
when you remove something people will hold a grudge and remind you and everyone else for years
that's the difference

>>51032249
>Removing a benefit is the same thing as incurring a punishment.
No it's not and you're actually retarded if you think that's true. This is basic human psychology. You need to get off of this hill because you're too stupid to be preaching.

>>51032331
>>51032331
the only slightly coding related thing he mentioned would be making the xml
https://elin-modding-resources.github.io/Elin.Docs/articles/2_Getting%20Started/basic_mod
as he said the rest is saving files in the right place and filling in spreadsheet boxes which even the most npc-ass office drones are able to do so I believe in you. to answer your previous question if you add 10 different single character mods from the workshop it actually would just load a spreadsheet with a single line from each of them, but if your mod was adding 10 characters it would load your single spreadsheet with 10 rows

>>51032433
Can't be worse than a bunch of puritans whining about little girls, swimsuits and mommy

I've started using AutoExplore for the first time, is it over for me?

>>51032462
Nope. That site isn't going to cut it for me because it's made by someone who already knows what they're doing. I've already browsed it several times and got nothing out of it. If it actually provided example files this would be easy.

>>51032563
Excelデータをインポートしてみる～のZipをダウンロードします。
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vR3GPx71Xnjfme6PtdqNnS5GnxlOFr2A8KdzH8bYTEwEOCgeVYROi3YaMQ2_h4qsySU_BORHKXPUi9i/pub

>>51032563
so you're asking for a site made by someone who doesn't know what they're doing?

>>51032877
No, I want a tutorial made by someone who is capable of putting themselves in the mindset of someone who doesn't know what they're doing. That site is fucking horrible for numerous reasons. It repeatedly references shit that does not exist and you have to go hunting for the data yourself.

>>51032961
what it sounds like is you want ChatGPT

>>51032993
No I just want a good tutorial with example files. That site is a horrible tutorial. It radically overcomplicates something which isn't anywhere near as complicated as it makes it out to be and obfuscates important data. There's no reason for that sort of retarded design.

>>51032526
yes

>>51033002
There are hundreds of people on the discord who read that and were easily able to make their first mod. Sounds like you're just mentally challenged and should stay out. Making things too accessible so that even 85iq retarded niggers can invade your hobby is a suicide pact.

>>51032961
Are you trying to read the entire wiki or something? The linked page tells you where to put things and how to make a package.xml
90% of the pages on that wiki do not apply to you. The section on Source Sheets (and their included links to the actual game's source sheets) is all you need. If you can't read that and understand how to make a fucking excel sheet, then I'm sorry anon, you need to go back to grade school.

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>>51033859
>>51033867
>don't understand any of this yet
>template or something available
>don't know shit about writing code
>never going to bother to learn
Imagine wanting to be spoonfed so hard, just short of having a pump directly installed into your gullet. Anons are giving resources and they spit it back out.
Can't even be bothered to put in the effort of learning something new. Hell, just having enough curiosity to reverse engineer any of the readily available custom adventurer mods works out just fine.
Bait or retard, call it.

>>51033912
Both, I'm a retard for being baited

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I must acquire... more figures...