/k/ — With Russia slowly running out of stuff to send, how far off

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>>65232310 (OP)
After Kostiantynivka falls, I bet the RuAF make a BIG push on the flanks of the fortress belt.

Tries to at least.

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>>65232334
>15km in 1570 days
Sure.

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>>65232348
Even the MSM has started making noise about K-town falling sometime soon.
Also, not a vatnik.
Russia is losing.

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>>65232356
No one is disputing their “wish list”
But to do that, they'd need about two million soldiers
Do you think they have that many in reserve?

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>>65232393
No. An attempted push is not a good idea.
But they will do it anyways.

>>65232393
They have enough illiterate churkas to toss into the grinder that Ukraine needs some big breakthrough to stop the meat machine. Russia can continue pushing forwards so long as a handful of Siberian steppe mutts with AKs is capable of taking ground, even if it costs them a thousand of them a mile. Their focus on economic warfare has slowed zigger progress, but it won't stop it. I think now that Russia is running low on artillery and armor, a fuck huge minefield isn't the worst idea for defense in depth. Layer it out and make it just punishingly brutal to attempt to assault through.

>>65232348
>1 meter per day
>only 205900 days (563.7 years) left until Berlin
>OOOOOORAAAAAAAA

>>65232398
They're already trying to do that right now.
While the ground is still dry and there are still leaves on the trees.
But they're not succeeding.

>>65232398
Why are you avatarfagging with Bush?

>>65232413
>Imperial Russia expanded to Kamchatka/Alyeska at a faster rate despite having an objectively worse logistics situation there
Sad.

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>>65232421
I'm kinda drunk.
>>65232419
Perun said it: It's hard to tell now when a Russian offensive is happening and when not.

>>65232334
I'm pretty sure the only way that's even remotely possible is if they completely withdraw from Sumy and Kharkiv.

>>65232429
Pretty sad; even that last German offensive at Balaton was more of an offensive.

In a scenario where Russia goes for an offensive, will it be Kaiserschlacht-level (70+ divisions), Battle of the Bulge-level, or Balaton-level offensive? Which one is more likely to happen and what will they have to remove from priority to attempt it?

>>65232453
Is there a level BELOW Balaton? Steiner?

>>65232356
It literally took them longer to surround Kostiantynivka than it did to push the Nazis from Moscow to Berlin.

>>65232453
How would they even get the troop build up without getting hit?

>>65232471
They don't. Germany had hundreds of thousands straight up dessert on their way from the eastern front to the west in 1918.

>>65232464
>>65232453
Land-based Ten-Go.

>>65232478
So...Ichi-Go?

>>65232478
>Armatas finally pressed into desperate service
>picked apart by drone waves before they can even reach the fight
Kino

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>>65232484
>Kuznetsov put on tracks and sent on a Yamato suicide run to Kyiv

>>65232474
Kaiserschlacht also saw German troops intentionally attack their own supply trains.

>>65232483
Ichi-Go actually made significant gains and technically achieved objectives.

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>>65232489
pic related (better image)

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The future of Crimea?

>>65232499
>made significant gains and technically achieved objectives.
all operational/tactical weasel words for STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE NOT ACHIEVED

>>65232534
Yeah, but it's better than I expect any future Rusky offensive to go.

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>>65232514
I hope not.
It would be better if Crimea were extremely costly for ziggers to supply, so that it becomes a black hole that devours ten times the resources.

>>65232348
the fuck?! they're still in chasiv yar?!

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>>65232514

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>>65232544
Just as long as they never reach Tasha Yar.

>>65232453
>Cuckoldschlacht-level
>Battle of the Bydlo-level
>Blyataton-level offensive

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>>65232544
They can't move any further.
There are hills where the Ukrainian army is positioned, as well as open terrain.

>>65232557
>Russians cannot into over the hills and far away

>>65232557
>They can't move any further. There are hills
>2026

>>65232556
I prefer "Clownserschlacht."

>>65232555
Would. Also checked.

>>65232544
They're still in the south, yes. And they're still putting up a vicious fight.

>>65232570
Forgot to add that ziggers claim to have surrounded them to the west, but simultaneously have failed to make any gains from that direction behind them either.

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>>65232559
>>65232561
They're trying.
But so far, it hasn't worked out.

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>>65232310 (OP)
Real talk, how do you even fuck up this badly? Hell why was ANYONE afraid of the Soviets if they were (and still are) this fuckong retarded?

>>65232576
Corruption.

>>65232334
>>65232356
>Even the MSM has started making noise about K-town falling sometime soon.
This means there's at least a year of fighting and close to 100k casualties to go

>>65232576
>Hell why was ANYONE afraid of the Soviets
muh ww2 and US hyping them up and establishing their influence via propaganda and a place in UN/surrendering eastern europe to them. it all emboldened soviets to act like they own the place and nobody dared to call their bluff.

that's literally it.

>>65232576
Europe wasn't nearly as heavily armed or as well armed. The USSR had all its vassal states to draw from and Ukraine for example was really a big arm of their industrial and tech stuff. The tech advantage of the US was probably only twenty years ahead instead of the 50 or so it probably is now.

>>65232576
nukes and space race kinda
coping over western civ and declaring that it would eventually fall to commies moreso.

>>65232409
You can't defend a minefield without artillery against an enemy with better long range fires. That's the point of minefields, to funnel and slow down an advance so it's easy to kill an attacker. If all you can do is cower in a trench and hope the drones don't find you while someone systematically clears assault routes the minefield is useless.

What would they deprioritize? Sumy or Kharkiv?

>>65232605
>artillery
>2026
You just need a massive drone swarm buzzing the field constantly.

>>65232620
Why are Russians still bringing up artillery to pokrovsk then

>>65232576
>why was ANYONE afraid of the Soviets if they were (and still are) this fuckong retarded?
How about you stop equating russia with soviet union.

Because this war is just soviet union attacking itself in confusion.

>>65232544
and just east of that is Bakhmut

>>65232421
Last good president

>>65232544
>he thinks we compare it to 40k and WWI as a joke

A million men dead for not even a hundred miles of forever wasted land, that's what this shit-show is.

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>>65232559
>>65232561
Welcome to the realities of World War I.

>>65232576
1970s US was in really shitty state. Western Europe, too.
The Soviets ran the mother of all masterful propaganda campaigns from the 1960s to the mid-80s
And the Soviet economy really began spiralling in the 80s, so thqy couldn't keep their potemkin-village millitary show running, couldn't keep financing the 5th columnists in the west, etc..

Modern Russia is like a muppet controlled by the mafia wearing a Soviet skinsuit.

Why are people still saying 2 weeks lmao. This war has been going on forever.