This is great to see honestly. I hope we stop selling to Europe so they are forced to innovate, which they can and will. The result is a deadlier war with deadlier and more cost effective weaponry, a win for all mankind. I wish we had more startups for missiles and drones. Nothing should be made artificially more expensive by administrative bloat.
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Anonymous06/13/26(Sat)10:38:08
>>65233233 Likewise I hope we stop buying anything from the US, weapons or otherwise. The retards you vote in every 4-8 years makes you as dependable as North Korea
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Anonymous06/13/26(Sat)10:39:17
>>65233240 NK is fairly dependable compared to the US, kek
>>65233267 >Is the fourth-largest industrial economy in the world industrialized? Do Indians shit in the streets? Retard.
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Anonymous06/13/26(Sat)12:20:27
>>65233254 seething zigger lol
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Anonymous06/13/26(Sat)12:30:32
>>65233375 Can't wait for the seethe when the Oreshnik strike either misses or fails to materialize due to adverse conditions at the launch site (caused by the Oreshnik blowing up on the pad).
>>65233233 I actually agree. Overglobalization has been a mistake, causing vital industries like weapons development and production to stagnate and atrophy. Over-reliance on the sectors of others isn't partnership, it's borderline feudalism. Though i do think lessened sales will negatively impact the US MIC since it means lower quantities produced (due to lower demand) and thus worse economies of scale on that level, as well as lessened profits (since international sales are obviously at a mark-up compared to production costs).
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Anonymous06/13/26(Sat)12:57:57
>>65233224(OP) >$500,000 each That's definitely not true for cruise missile of that spec
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Anonymous06/13/26(Sat)13:03:56
>>65233421 They're bargain bin specials built using old second hand jet engines from the cold war jet trainers, basic ali-express guidance systems, and carrying old Soviet dumb bombs as warheads. They're fucking enormous, like 3x the size of a Tomahawk, not built to be small and air-launchable. They're not stealth, and they don't have advanced features like terrain-following low-elevation flight capability, nor the ability to datalink with aircraft or other cruise missiles. Half a mil each is not an unreasonable price for these things.
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Anonymous06/13/26(Sat)13:32:48
>>65233428 >old second hand jet engines from the cold war jet trainers, basic ali- express guidance systems, and carrying old Soviet dumb bombs as warheads. Exactly the flaw here. When I first heard about it they were making it out of scrap engines but that won't be avaliable for long and you need to remanufacture it which will shoot up the price. Also I don't like the missiles design like engine intake or size. It's a giant whale with large rf and ir signature. Not ideal unlike current pivot to low cost mini cruise missiles. When the Germans would try manufacture it they would increase the price even higher including guidance need since it doesn't justify for a weapon of that size.
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Anonymous06/13/26(Sat)14:19:13
>>65233224(OP) >Fire Point produces 500 Flamingos a month. >based in Kiev
How is that possible? Why hasn't Russia reduced this factory into rubble yet?
>>65233421 Steel is $1100 per ton. There's a reason automakers are pushing you into a SUV you're dumb enough to pay $80,000 for rather than a $50,000 car. They're only paying $1000 more to build the SUV and making $29,000 more profit off it.
The V-1 cost ~$30,000 each. There's no reason this thing should cost even $60,000, never mind $500,000.
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Anonymous06/13/26(Sat)14:59:54
>>65233224(OP) >200 missiles a month big time doubt.
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Anonymous06/13/26(Sat)15:01:50
>>65233572 Sure if you have unlimited free engines. The actual lower bound for this is definitely 1 million euros unlike advertised claim. We just need the wait for Diehl for the actual price to come out.
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Anonymous06/13/26(Sat)15:02:01
>>65233536 >How is that possible? Why hasn't Russia reduced this factory into rubble yet? not that easy >location of the actual factory is unknown l>ocation of the factory changed at least once in the last year >Russia cannot effectively hit Ukraines hinterland
the only way Russia has been hitting anything so far back are massive saturation attacks with Geran-2, which are both kinda expensive and unreliable (both in terms of accuracy and because they're easy to intercept) or by using REALLY expensive missiles like Oreshnik (~25mil) of which they only have a couple (if any left at all) or using expensive but interceptable missiles with limited range like Iskander
and remember Ukraine has partial and somewhat working air defense
>>65233539 >Because they're THAT shit its basically this^ flamingo's are a fake media gimmick to cover storm-shadow strikes
>>65233599 >Aren't their factories in underground? they was/were untill uncle oreshnik found them
>https://www.youtube.com/live/GPTCJrNne-c?si=O-YsJXAdHD3Us10r&t=1476 >A Russian missile strike destroyed a production line for ukraine’s Flamingo cruise missile, ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Feb. 14 during a briefing on the sidelines of the Munich Security Conference. >Zelenskyy said the attack targeted a major manufacturing facility connected to the >"We had technical problems. Just between you and me, one of our large production lines was destroyed by missiles"
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Anonymous06/13/26(Sat)15:25:53
>>65233594 Jet engines can be made cheaply. While ultra-high performance engines are absurdly expensive, a cruise missile doesn't need them. A Me-262's engine was something like $60,000.
>>65233638 >its basically this^ Yes. Russkies are too shit to actually take out factories barring a handful of lucky hits over 4 years. Sub-0.1% hit rates are the best russian missiles can do LMAO.
>>65233240 Just ignore the 70 years the US bankrolled your entire defense budget. Either way, glad Euros are finally standing on their own two legs
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Anonymous06/13/26(Sat)16:00:26
>>65233756 >Just ignore the 70 years the US bankrolled your entire defense budget. May we see those receipts?
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Anonymous06/13/26(Sat)16:03:22
>200 a month We're not seeing close to 200 flamingo attacks a month. Are we going to see some huge flamingo waves at some point?
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Anonymous06/13/26(Sat)16:08:15
>>65233756 >bankrolled Based retard-kun, it is the complete opposite with allowing the nasty leech class of Amerimutts to use Europe as a staging area for retarded multi decade ZOG wars as one gigantic circular leeching operation via the MIC to suck YOUR and OUR tax dollars away. Fuck off completely from Europe, Europe and America would both be better off.
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Anonymous06/13/26(Sat)16:09:48
>>65233638 >the literal entire Russian military apparatus has managed to strike one singular FP flamingo production facility in the entirety of their gay ZOG SMO
Lol
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Anonymous06/13/26(Sat)16:10:40
>>65233773 We see relatively few hit targets, it's entirely possible that Russian AD actually shoots down most of the rest
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Anonymous06/13/26(Sat)16:13:46
>>65233795 They usually brag about shooting a couple down, per hit on target. If there was attacks with dozen plus flamingos it be obvious from videos and aftermath.
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Anonymous06/13/26(Sat)16:15:57
>>65233793 >the one single strike took the production down to the extent the ukrainian president specifically commented on it a global security conference...nervously assuring his 'partners' it would be re-spun up "within two weeks"
explain please?
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Anonymous06/13/26(Sat)16:18:16
>>65233256 why only swampy areas? my mediocre geography skills see only swamps and rivers in these marked areas.
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Anonymous06/13/26(Sat)16:19:57
>>65233812 Would be really surprising to see a wading bird in the desert.
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Anonymous06/13/26(Sat)16:22:18
>>65233224(OP) Seriously, making it look like a V1 was really necessary? Not only that, but the prototype had the same color scheme.
>>65233734 A grounf launcher for Tomahawks is not a particularily complex or hard to build thing, anon.
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Anonymous06/13/26(Sat)16:55:30
>>65233709 You seem to think I am German for some reason?
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Anonymous06/13/26(Sat)16:55:35
>>65233756 The US hasn't bankrolled anybody else's defense budgets, ever.
>>65233807 >zigger claim: we totally destroyed all their production >reality: actual two weeks disruption ROFLMAO. Good job shooting down your own wild-ass claim, retard.
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Anonymous06/13/26(Sat)16:56:04
>>65233890 If General Dynamics built that, it'd be 12 million plus tip. Missiles sold seperately.