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read Clara Casewell, Attorney to the Villainess by cocopi
it's peak

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read Cruel Violet by Dreamer's Riot
it's peak

>>25329141
>they messed up the rankings
what rankings?

Best hours to post chappies?

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DUNGEON CRAWLER CARL

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In my youth I knew the hardships of the world,

Yet I still aspired to soar above the clouds.

A journey of cold winds and uncertainty, A lone traveler experiences a life of ups and downs.

A heart of steel forged from countless setbacks, A lifetime of effort to forge one sword.

Today my sword aims beyond the clouds,

Refine Gu! Refine Human! Refine Heaven!!

>>25329230
the book rank that you'd see on the author page was glitched out for an hour or so. Mine went from 1,200 to 65,000. It's fixed now.

>>25329247
~15 minutes after MLA

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>>25329377
>>25329230
You care about this?

>>25329411
it was amusing.

>>25329374
this guy just won a court case by representing himself btw

Any decent new releases?
inb4 "mine" with no link

>>25329382
MLA isn't even popular anymore
15 minutes after Archmage Coefficient

>>25329449
put some respect on the OG

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>>25329437
Mine

>>25329247
I drop mine at 15:30 GMT.

So Volume 3 is currently sitting at about 150k. Thing is, I had to split the arc into two halves, one being the set up and all of the build up to what is effectively the MC's slough of despond / dark night of the soul, and then what would be the second half is the MC going full detective/hero-mode mopping up all the bad guys and figuring out all of the conspiracy stuff that was there but under the surface in volume 3.

The difficult choice I have to make is whether to end volume 3 at the point where the MC is about to set out on his 'rampage' so to speak, or to include that in volume 3, which could tack on as much as another 150k words by the time its all done.

I figure the reader would be exhausted when reaking the first 150k, and would prefer to start the next 150k in volume 4 as its own fresh book. It's a bit of a conumdrum.

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>>25329476
You mean you took 150k words just to set up turning the MC into a sadboy?

>>25329032
Can you (or any other anon) please walk me through how you do so? What is your process when writing web novels? Do you publish the first draft of a scene or line when it comes to your head or are you iterating on it?
Can you please explain this to me very, very slowly? I’m pretty sure my approach to writing web novels is all sorts of fucked up
How do you pet the dog?

>>25329493
>Can you (or any other anon) please walk me through how you do so?
https://revengeoftheslopking.blogspot.com/2026/05/a-collection-of-thoughts-of-sorts.html
7 if you don't care to read the rest, but I recommend going through 6.
There is no trick. Just think about how many words you waste on 4chan posts that you could write into your stuff instead.

>>25329490
Not quite. It's more like the MC has reached a point where he can't be reactive anymore to the threats all around him. All his allies are either severely injured, or looking after those that are severely injured (they're superhuman, so it'll take them about 12 hours to recover, which puts them out of being able to help the MC in the next act, he's on his own.)

On top of that, the MC has reached a point as a superhero in his origin where he's like Batman at the start of an Arkham game; lots of detective-work to do in the way of GO HERE > BEAT PEOPLE UP > NEXT LEAD > REPEAT.

Leading to the ultimate dramatic conclusion. The forward momentum in volume 4 works as the whole book is the revenge/resolution arc for the character. Sort of like the difference between Kill Bill Volume 1 and 2.

I’ve been seriously thinking about becoming a bestselling fantasy author so I can quit my job at Tescos.

I had a really bad argument with my manager yesterday. Fucking Paul wanted me to bring all the older milk cartons to the front of the shelves, but I told him I was meant to be on tills and that Katy should be stocking dairy. But Paul said Katy needed to go on her break so he made me do it, and it's just got me thinking I should bash out a few shitty novels so I can quit.

I haven’t written much yet, mainly because of my job, and because I care about things like prose and characters.

Meanwhile you've got hacks like Sanderson publishing multiple books a year with simplistic, accessible prose, boringly satisfying plots and characters that have like, max, 3 or 4 layers to them. I could obviously do this too if I gave myself a lobotomy.

One concern I had is whether I'd be comfortable exploiting people like that. It feels morally repugnant to me to work out what millions of morons enjoy and just give it to them? How will they learn to elevate themselves intellectually if I do that?

I'm also not sure how I'd handle my name appearing on every second post in subreddits that develop a completely understandable hate-boner for my writing.

But I also really hate it at Tescos, none of my colleagues appreciate me. Paul especially pisses me off. He's exactly the kind of simpleton who would enjoy a Sanderson book.

Also, because of my job, I don't have the time to just sit around and write all day. If I could quit and write full time I could easily bash out a bunch of dross for the school-reading-age crowd to lap up. I once had a bank-holiday off, and wrote 400 words of world-building that was much better than Mistborn or whatever, so I'm pretty sure I could do it.

Anyway, I'd really like to spend more time expressing just how little I think of Brandon Sanderson's writing, but my break ended 10 minutes ago and fucking Katy is calling me on the tannoy so I have to wrap this up.

Does anyone have any advice on how to write Sanderson-level dross as an author whose tastes and sensibilities are vastly superior to the common "reader"?

>>25329510
My experience has been that most people who think themselves above the likes of Sanderson typically can't write anything anyone wants to read anyway. Not saying you can't, but a lot of guys talk a bit game just to write the most generic bullshit anyway.

Either way, good luck.

>>25329497
absolute unreadable garbage, and I’m not just saying that to be crass

>>25329520
The colors, or the content?

>>25329524
the content, the author and their observations are not interesting enough to do this meandering round-about style or writing
if this were my grandmother I would’ve told her to shut the fuck up

>>25329536
I have a dream my thoughts will one day not be judged by their content, by the color of their font.

>>25329510
You should have written a chapter instead of this post

>>25329510
embarrassed millionaires are the stupidest mother fuckers on the planet
america wouldn't exist without cattle who think they're just one more bootstrap pull from being in the top 1%

>>25329557
Then rejoice, your dream has already come true, since I didn't read any of it and can only judge you by the font color

>>25329510
It's not bad satire overall but I find it hard to engage with when we all know nobody from /wg/ has ever worked at Tesco.
Also using words like dross and dreck are too on the nose and immersion breaking.

>>25329636
>immersion breaking
Are the words dross and dreck beyond the lexical remit of a Tesco shelf stacker

>>25329653
No but we literally had a dross/dreck poster for a couple of weeks.

>>25329668
It’s not impossible that that poster was a Tesco shelf stacker, then

>>25329510
Nice copypasta but such a person would LOVE 1% Lifesteal's first chapter. It's for you.

>>25329093
That's what I have been doing until I gave the site a try. But the offline method means you still have to refresh after every other change. There isn't anything like this that lets you do live edits like this, which makes the workflow so much more easier.

>>25329668
It was the gong poster, not dross or dreck

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Any genuine recs for "cultivator fights other schools of magick"?

>>25329683
Any basic ide would do this, VSCode being the most widely used. Though I can see that being overkill for small things.

>>25329493
400 mg of caffeine does the trick for me. Then you just sit down and do it. No trick to it past that.

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What are the 3-5 most important things a webnovel must have for you to become hooked, get excited for the next chapter, follow the author, and subscribe on Patreon?

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>>25329762
>Then you just sit down and do it.
But... what I mean to ask is, are you just publishing your first articulation of the scene? How much of what ends up published has been revised to read better? Do you draft an outline or start typing the final product from the first word to the last with no scaffolding between?

>>25329770
I bulletpoint the entire story from start to finish as a very simplistic list of events/goals of certain dialogues. This is primarily so I don't forget them later but I also find that it sometimes helps structure during the actual writing process.

Then I just go down the list, trying to describe what I see in my head as best I can. I will sometimes write out of order if I'm really excited about a specific scene. I try not to edit or dwell on anything until it's all finished (or at least the particular arc, if I've already started uploading shit).

>>25329780
Thank you for describing your process in detail. I will now go out and pet the dog.

>>25329768
If I'm starting a story, then
>an early hook
>no grammar mistakes first 1-2 chapters
>a compelling first paragraph (i.e. no boring descriptions, lore dump, etc.)
>worldbuilding at a bare minimum; I don't care about the world until I care about the characters/story
For subsequent chapters, to get excited about the next one, then
>every chapter as a cohesive unit
>little to no rumination
>I learn something new about a character, or world
>something interesting or unexpected happens (i.e. the story is not just a predictable A to B)
>cliffhangers, unironically (but not abused)

hey /wng/ should i take my meds today? will they help me write?

>>25329811
you should poop in your hand and jack off. it's helped me a lot when writing my Solo Poopjacking winnie

I think keeping my notes in my head is not good for me, considering my story is over 2m words long.

>>25329861
there's this thing you can do to keep of a record of your thoughts without relying on your memory

>>25329793
>little to no rumination
>I learn something new about a character, or world
lmao I hate you

>>25329878
How do those ideas conflict

>>25329878
Spoken like your book sucks. Pointless ruminating is the antithesis of good writing—a cheap shortcut to explain facets of your world or character without earning it through proper story beats, implication, subtext, etc.

>>25329793
>no grammar mistakes first 1-2 chapters
if it's not broken english then who cares. a minor mistake here or there isn't a big deal if it doesn't interfere with readability

>>25329878
people without internal dialogues don't want to read stories with characters that have them

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I'm 3 chapters behind schedule and now my train of thought has completely collapsed. Put me alone in a room and I can barely even think about my writing. How do I get it back?

>>25329994
stay away from videogames and social media

>>25329910
I have internal dialogue and don't want to read the internal dialogue of a fictional character because it's poor storytelling to have stuff spelled out for you like you're in grade school.

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bruh it's just totally useless for everything except coding and making porn.

>>25330191
Just like all Silicon Valley hyped technologies, >90% of use cases are trash and >90% of the companies involved will fail.