/lit/ — Now that it is officially over, what's your plan for survivi

Link to article: https://www.dailycal.org/news/campus/academics/reaching-a-crisis-point-uc-berkeley-humanities-professors-lower-expectations-for-assigned-readings/article_a1e6e366-9c0b-48a2-b662-5191a7120bf4.html

>>25336844 (OP)
Mass literacy was a mistake

Asking students to read a 700 page novel for your class over the span of 3 days for two days of discussion is a ridiculous expectation.

>>25336844 (OP)
it's not "officially" over. they still consider themselves literate.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pov0MKuyJfg&ra=m

>>25337573
that's what elite colleges were supposed to ask u to do because they are feeders for elite law schools where people will be reading 100s of pages a day in their job

>>25337587
I'm talking about a literature class you retarded pedant.

>>25336844 (OP)
Playing Gacha Games

>>25336844 (OP)
A little over a century ago you had to be fluent in Latin just to gain admission to college.

>>25337590
yeah literature and history majors then go to law school duh damn dude

>>25337596
>lit students go to law school
No they don't. They become babysitters for the homeless or baristas.

>I recently graduated from a highschool at which I was far and away the best read person in the entire school, including the English teachers
>Out of the student body of 600 I knew of only one other student who even read true lit, and sparingly at that
>Everything we were assigned we had to read in class, and half the people slept through it anyways
>I was one of a grand total of maybe five or so people who abstained from using AI in some way to write essays
>The highschool I go to has been consistently ranked one of the Top 10 schools in the nation over its duration, sometimes even Top 5

Get a bunker and start prepping, I guess. Human society literally can't sustain itself like this

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>>25336844 (OP)
generations of mathematicians have been supported by the university laundering their prestige to epstein

>>25337130
Then stop reading and writing dumbfuck

>>25336844 (OP)
Use my superior intelligence to brainwash a harem of illiterate femboys of course.

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>>25336844 (OP)
Trust fund + nepotism + paying for reviews

Following in the footsteps of the greats

>>25337573
the article said one professor had 3 books assigned as reading for his entire course
another said he would previously assign 100 pages of reading a week and expect 75 pages to actually be read

Working on including simple pictures with my short stories.
More to aid in standing out and advertising, but also to trick the semi-literates.

Only problem is my drawing ability is far below my already low level of writing.

>>25337573
I don't know of any class that ask that.

Hyperbole is for histrionic women.

>>25337573
>Reading novels for college classes
You know you can be a barrista without going into debt, right?

>>25337631
Where do I unsubscribe from your blog, junior?

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>>25336844 (OP)
>>25336850
archive link: https://archive.is/9Wp0D
>English professor Grace Lavery, said while she noticed some students struggling with denser Charles Dickens novels, these issues weren’t new or necessarily problematic.
>“The reason is that the Dickens novels I teach are long and difficult,” Lavery said. “I imagine that if I had been teaching these novels in the same way back in the 1950s, I would have had exactly the same problems.”
haha

>Stop using testing like the SAT to judge students
>University fills up with dumbasses
This was the most predictable thing ever. American education desperately needs rigor, the SAT is comically easy and that was still too much difficulty for the activists. Meanwhile China has the Gaokao. No wonder they are lapping us

>>25338128
>Dickens
>Long and difficult
They were pop lit printed in serials for the masses, like Dumas. While they're better quality than most pulp fiction, they weren't intended to be hardcore reading for elite college students. You cant blame the Victorian English either, Jane Austen was insanely popular among teenage girls until fairly recently.

>>25338128
These are the old entrance requirements of UNC Chapel Hill
>Entering students, according to an 1819 publication, were expected to be able to read the Bible in Greek, and to have read Caesar's Commentarii de Bello Gallico (7 books), Virgil's Bucolics and Æneid, and Ovid in Latin, the latter in an "editio expurgata".

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>>25336844 (OP)
Elite schools now only exist as a middle management training camp for half-literate brown women and a nepotized diploma mill for the kids of jewish bankers and politicians.

Anyone who actually earns their admission and pay every cent are in the minority of suckers that I imagine are the subject of offhand jeering jokes around the jack-off-in-a-casket ritual pledges in the Skull & Bones house’s basement.

>>25337590
My god you are a sheltered fool.

>>25338151
I chuckled, nice post, anon.

The unrelenting pace of reading was the only real heroic element these courses had looking in from a STEM perspective.

>>25336844 (OP)
Tangentially related, I'm getting back into pleasure reading and I feel stupid at times for missing themes or allusions.

Reading Moby Dick for the first time, and I'll often dive into discussions and forums to read more about the chapters I have just read because I love learning more about the references and themes and cool things. But sometimes, a person will mention something and I'll feel like an idiot for not noticing it.

>Chapter 40
>Crew is drinking and having fun at night
>They start to get into a potential fight over some racist remarks
>Halted by an impending storm that is a-brewing

Others noted how this is foreshadowing for the "storm" that is about to trouble the crew later on. How could I miss that? It seems so fucking obvious once pointed out. I just enjoyed the words and the imagery when I read it first. Maybe I'm expecting too much of myself on first-read and as someone getting back into reading. But still, I'd like to get to that point where I can notice these things on my own.

>>25336844 (OP)
Same as always.
Shitpost on lit.

>>25336844 (OP)
Honestly what's the point of education anyway when we really just need 95% of people to work manual labor type jobs.

>>25338573
Billions must read.

>>25336844 (OP)
Maybe colleges shouldnt admit students who can't read or won't read.
>BUT THEN HOW DO WE MAKE MONEY?!

>>25338613
more like "but then how do we avoid civil rights lawsuits"

What was that report which analysed writing patterns from the 1800s as a proxy for IQ?
Was it by their words ye shall know them?

>>25338600
Billions can't read.

>>25337573
>Go to university to study subject
>Complain when told to study subject thoroughly
You people are so fucking pathetic.

>>25337573
My university was shit with shit standards, but I did hear from one of my professors at the time (who is in his mid 50s and had graduated from the ENS and the Sorbonne before going to Harvard and Cambridge) that students would be expected to read ~1000 pages per week. Absolutely doable if you're good at reading and committed to your studies. If you can't read that fast maybe you should study something else.

Its infuriating to me that people get these opportunities to study at amazing universities and completely squander it. I'm jealous for I'll never be admitted to these places and couldn't afford the tuition if I were.

>>25338825
same but if i'm being real i'm a bad student with adhd and would probably fail out, i know my limits. mid ranked state school is appropriate for me.

>>25338833
If only I could be allowed to attend even a mid ranked state school

>>25338840
dude go a community college for free then transfer to a mid

>>25338852
No.

>>25338861
stay uneducated then idc i'm not ur dad nor ur employer

>>25338871
Well its not a choice either way.

>>25336844 (OP)
Become hyper-literate? Take the neo-90s pill? I have a theory that people are going to become so stupid, that some people will take up reading and essay writing simply to keep their minds sharp, as a status symbol. Much like how lifting weights and running became a status activity to stave off sedentary physical decline.

Even try and maintain an online community focused on intellectual activities would be enough.

>>25337573
This
I studied English and I had so much required reading that I just stopped doing it and reading summaries or just blowing off the assignment. It was simply too much combined with everything else I had to do as well
It honestly ruined reading for me for a very long time because I just had no fun anymore because it felt like a chore

>>25338790
Billions must TRY :)

>>25338983
I was the last educational chopter out of Viet Nam, having graduated in 2018. We had to read a 200-500 page book every week for each English class, which was probably manageable for normal people, but I didn't read 70% of that because I had undiagnosed ADHD. Ended up winning a $2k monetary prize for a last-minute essay written about a book I never read. Anyway, reading a ton every day now as an English tutor, I have zero sympathy for Gen Z and Alpha's inability to read. Their parents failed them, but they also failed themselves by having zero drive or curiosity. And these kids don't even have brain defects, they just use tablets too much. Yet we can't hold them accountable, because parents and politicians need to blame everyone but themselves. Fucking insane.

>>25338861
You deserve your shit tier life.

>>25338820
>if you can't read Gravity's Rainbow in three day, you're actually retarded
>if you can't read Ulysses in three days, you're actually retarded
>if you can't read J R or The Recognitions in three days, you're actually retarded
This is how you sound. Sorry but you didn't "read" those books. You skimmed them. Might as well have read the wikipedia summaries because that's what your "reading" experience amounted to.

The English lit and creative writing humanities have always been a total scam unless your plan is to go on to be an English prof. If you want to do a humanity you'd do yourself a much better service by studying history.

>HuMaNiTiEs
Useless, nothing course anyway.

>>25338128
I lost interest in modern great books schools when I learned they were reading excerpts

Niggers

That is all

it's... it's all gone... he's not coming back
20 year olds are not meant to understand that shit. where do you think the term 'fake it til you make it' came from?

>>25340110
Humanities are important, but only the scam perpetuates itself.

There should honestly be only 1 or 2 state colleges per state that are heavily incentivized to favor in state students. These schools should offer less degrees but have much more focus on what they do offer. The degrees should be more general too for undergraduates. Just things like "Humanities" . Most applied STEM fields should just be moved to trade school like institutions. Jobs should stop requiring degrees for entry level positions. Private colleges should offer truly alternative eduations such as no grades or block scheduling or a religion school.

>>25338646
Found it.
https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2015.00361/full
>It has been theorized that declines in general intelligence (g) due to genetic selection stemming from the inverse association between completed fertility and IQ and the Flynn effect co-occur, with the effects of the latter being concentrated on less heritable non-g sources of intelligence variance. Evidence for this comes from the observation that 19th century populations were more intellectually productive, and also exhibited faster simple reaction times than modern ones, suggesting greater information-processing ability and therefore higher g. This co-occurrence model is tested via examination of historical changes in the utilization frequencies of words from the highly g-loaded WORDSUM test across 5.9 million texts spanning the period 1850–2005. Consistent with predictions, words with higher difficulties (δ parameters from Item Response Theory) and stronger negative correlations between pass rates and completed fertility declined in use over time whereas less difficult and less strongly selected words, increased in use over time, consistent with a Flynn effect stemming in part from the vocabulary enriching effects of increases in population literacy. These findings persisted when explicitly controlled for word age, changing literacy rates and temporal autocorrelation. These trends constitute compelling evidence for the co-occurrence model.

>>25341230
It is cosmically over, isn't it?

>>25338128
>Grace Lavery
This is an mtf tranny in a throuple with a pooner he's cucking and they have a multiple hundred page kf thread btw