/lit/ — /sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

Basically been a week

I've been reading some HG Wells and I'm really impressed. I'm ashamed to say that I was expecting his work to be of mostly genre historical value, but as it turns out everyone was quite right and he's very good.

>>25339486
Fuck off spamtranny. Stay away from us you fucking WACKO

>>25339501
You should also love Olaf Stapledon.

>>25339524
why this guy so mad? starting to think some of you just want me here to release some unrepentant anger that you dont get to in your daily life

Reposting here: looking for books similar to There Is No Antimemetics Division's main idea? The writing itself is what it is, but I genuinely loved the idea behind it, and I have yet to find something similar. Mainly referring to sort of meta entity like SCP-3125, or beings or concepts that are hard to interact with because they fuck up with your memory/perception. Entities that interact and are defined in a crazy way works too, like weeping angels from doctor who as discussed in the previous thread

>>25339554
You might enjoy Raw Shark Texts

>>25339553
No, I want you gone. The thread was actually peaceful and full of decent posts for once. I never want to see your faggot-assed fart sniffing posts ever again.

Fuck you. Go away.

>>25339486
Nope, hasn't been an entire seven days.

>>25339486
You don't get to post until 5 PM on Monday, sorry.

>>25339592
no. whatever retarded timezone you live in isnt mine.

>>25339608
I don't care, COCKSUCKER. By your own "rules" YOU DON'T POST UNTIL MONDAY. Now FUCK OFF.

>>25339614
How are you getting Monday?
If we look at his post
>>25326117
we see that it's currently roughly 3 hours away from being 7 days.

>>25339380 (OP)
My state

>>25339646
Cleveland Cavaliers deserved to get blown out in the Easter Conference finals for trading Darius Garland

>>25339638
He just wants me gone so he doesn't care about the time

>>25339657
>He just wants me gone
Who doesn't?

>>25339657
We all do to be desu

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>>25339380 (OP)
Any other protagonists like Sax Russell?

Starts off as a somewhat typical scientist character, bad with people and hyperfocused on his work but still interesting and lovable in his own way. Gradually grows into a more social person aware of his emotions and the beauty of life.

I will take any lovable scientist or sci-fi books with strong arcs for likable characters.

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>last book you read
>current book you are reading
>next book you plan to read

>>25339962
The Stone of Farewell
To Green Angel Tower
The Darkness That Comes Before

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>>25339962
>Last book
Space Viking by H. Beam Piper and Magic and Bullets by Larry Correia
>Current book
First Lensman by E. E. "Doc" Smith. Thank you to the anon who brought this series to my attention. I'm also in the middle of Blood Music by Greg Bear, but I can't read it while I eat.
>Next book you plan to read
I can't decide. I have a ton of sci-fi/fantasy novels. Give me a vague idea of what kind of book to read next and I'll pick one out.

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>>25339380 (OP)
The Miocene Arrow, Greatwinter #2 - Sean McMullen (2000)

Roughly 10 years have passed and the setting has shifted to Mounthaven, a callhaven in what was known in ancient times as the United States. The Call, which lures mammals to their death, is far stronger and more pervasive here. As in the first book with Australica, Mounthaven's technology is very uneven due to the ancient military satellites, but they don't have the former's religious restrictions. Their relatively sparse population and meager resources led to a neo-feudalistic sort of social structure where wars are settled by duels between wardens. Rather than horses they have elaborate and ritualized aerial duels with gunwings, small aircraft with diesel engines. Anyone with power must follow the rules of chivalry or be destroyed. They see no other possible way to ensure their survival. That's how it had been for centuries untold, until the arrival of foreign agents with their promise of dominion over all others. Those who accepted who would have to forsake tradition, honor, dignity, ethics, and all else cherished. The cost in blood and gold would be immense. In the end naught but ruin may remain, but even so, they would be its ruler. For that, no price was too steep.

The Miocene Arrow chronicles the war of 3960-3961. Every chapter title is the day in which the chapter began. I loved that. This makes it read like a historical account. There are several viewpoint characters and while they're important, the focus isn't so much on them as it is about their role in what happens. Reality doesn't warp itself around a protagonist as it usually does. Each character and their affiliations have their own goals. The interplay is magnificent. Sometimes it becomes ridiculous, in the the way real life too often is, to where I had to wonder if parts were based on actual events. Overall though it's a masterful display of complex interests.

The only serious complaint I have, aside from the continuing issue with what causes the Call, is the obsessive love of two characters, which isn't with each other. The book is marred with two truly melodramatic romances. By which I mean there's betrayal, emotional and physical abuse, dubious consent, mindbreak, suicide, and several murders. I felt that it reduced the characters involved to a single trait, though that is what happens with someone completely obsessed. I know that for others that can be something they'd read a book for though.

That wasn't nearly enough to derail my enjoyment. This series is still on track to be one of my all-time favorites. Every twist and turn was utterly delightful. There was a wonderful balance of the characters succeeding and failing. Each triumph and disaster felt earned. The characters fully expressed their will, for better and worse. Realpolitik reigned, much to the dismay and regret of almost everyone. I expect the third and final book to cement its status as one of the most enjoyable series I've read.

Rating: 5/5

>>25340057
yawn

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>>25336204
I do feel like the first story of Simak's City had interesting things to say about how increasing efficiencies in our society can lead to anti-social setups. How cities can, in a way, serve a similar function as a school where you are forced to interact with people, and this can lead to more positive social development than everyone hiding away in their 40 acres.

It is also about how increased efficiencies in society can leave people behind in such a way, that they either have to reinvent themselves as people (which is dehumanizing) or get out of the way and die.

Every system, must create winners and losers... we are just OK with it when we are the winners. I have been in a lot of family and friend group dynamics, where the removal of a single person can change how everyone else is interacting with each other. New winners and losers. None of these ideas are fresh, but they are pondered upon in a semi-interesting manner.

I will also say the story devolved into a 'Foundation' tier situation where our wise protagonist is able to see everything for the way it is, and he smack talks all of the other fools for being delusional about the state of things. The people opposed to our protagnoist are 'VERY SILLY' TM. They even have the two dimensional villain 'Gulp' repeatedly when he has been beaten.

You can see Simak's skill in this first story, but you can tell he still had a ways to go in maturing as a writer.

>>25340057
Almost sold me on whatever book series this is. But the neo fuedalistic thing makes no sense. Wars even during feudalism weren't between wardens. Governments wage wars, not economics, they just give up all their resources to the gov to protect the territory and land that lets them be rich.

It doesn't seem sufficiently explained why a new feudalistic system would be any unique

>>25340126
>The Miocene Arrow, Greatwinter #2 - Sean McMullen (2000)
>whatever book series this is
Title, Series - Author (Year)

>neo fuedalistic thing makes no sense
The purpose is minimal loss of people, resources, and infrastructure.

>would be any unique
What?

Any stories where the MC is slowly corrupted?

>>25340254
Anakin Skywalker Books

>>25340254
>The poster's barely disguised moral degeneration fetish

>>25340290
>barely disguised
I take offense at this allegation.
I am openly horny about the struggle against loss of morality and even form and shape.

>>25340254
There are no such stories known to exist anywhere on this earth, sorry.

>>25340254
LOTR

>>25340057
>>25340158
your """reviews""" are SHIT
FUCK OFF

I tried asking this a month ago, but does anyone know where I can find some bakker wojak memes posted in 2021?
I am looking for the 'flavortown' meme and politcal compass meme that depicted the standing of all the characters.

>>25340572
No. Fuck off.

>>25339912
What is ti about Mars trilogy that makes some people hate it? People I otherwise know have decent taste in SF.

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What a stupid piece of crap. Terrible writing, unlikeable self insert MC. I usually never agree with feminist takes in reviews, but this one book made me agree with them, the women here are just completely useless and made to fuck the MC somehow.
There were some interesting scenes and the general plot is not so bad, but I can't understand how this won a Hugo and a Nebula.

>>25340678
>but I can't understand how this won a Hugo and a Nebula.
You say that like those awards ever had any prestige.

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>>25340572
I could swear I had it somewhere, but no luck.

>>25340678
Foid or faggot detected. Ringworld is based and comfy as fuck.

>>25340678
>NOOOOOO, MUH HECCIN' FEMALE CHARACTERS, REEEEEEE!!!
Why do you even use this website?

>>25339650
I wouldn't know anything about that i don't watch sports aside from auto racing and skateboard competitions.

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Who is the smartest sf/f protagonist? I want to get into the head of a genius.

>>25340710
>>25340712
Read the book first

>>25340752
I've read the entire series at least six times. Suck my dick, luckless Teela.

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>>25340678
Try some Scalzi, he might be more your speed

>>25340825
Jesus Christ..

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>>25340689
>pic

>>25340254
Sun Eater series

Are there any scifi stories where the evil megacorp is actually smart and good at business?

What is /sffg/s thought on audio dramatizations? Ran out of podcasts to listen to at work so began listening to the Dark Age dramatization and it was pretty damn immersive. Some of the voices for characters wasn't what I imagined then to be and some of the sfx were kinda corny but overall I enjoyed it.

>>25340820
Maybe the following books are better, but Ringworld reads like romantasy slop for men.

>>25340885
It really doesn't. Are you on the rag? Take some Midol for your bleeding pussy crunches and calm down.

>>25340572
Just browse the /lit/ archives on warosu and try to find them yourself.

is red rising worth reading or is it in the same vein as sanderson and other slop like that? it was suggested by a coworker which raised a red flag right away but I've been meaning to get into a new scifi series. last one I truly enjoyed was TBotNS

>>25340938
Sanderson is better than Red Rising. Take that as you will.

>>25340938
It's a sprawling YA series popular with Sanderson fans

>>25340938
I recommend it. Stick to it, it gets good after the 6th book