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Would anyone be interested in a story about a NEET going into dangerous places full of things that will kill you to stuff his backpack full of valuable loot against the government's wishes and laws?

Not an isekai (per se), not a litRPG, not a harem. Just a guy with rent to pay, apartment full of military weapons and controlled chemicals, and no real direction in life or a reason to live beyond seeing another day.

Reposting because I took the worst moment to ask this.

>>25341577
>anyone
sure
not me tho

>>25341577
1. That's not a NEET. That's a self-employed person
2. You're describing Roadside Picnic, one of the most famous works of literature on earth.

>>25341574
>and maybe
Well, if you'd be so inclined, https://www.honeyfeed.fm/novels/30962

Mostly looking for early suggestions and probing for premise interest.
I think my story was pretty badly mogged by others. Not sure if it's due to the tenses thing, the narrative style, or if honeysneed is simply the wrong audience for this kind of thing, but I thought /lit/ might at least give some semi-honest feedback.

Or Occam's razor and the story is just mediocre at best. I have a little more, but holding off with publishing more chapters before I lose or win.
>>25341598
Understandable.
>>25341614
>1. That's not a NEET. That's a self-employed person
Well, technically, so are drug dealers, but I doubt you can list that on any CV.
>2. You're describing Roadside Picnic, one of the most famous works of literature on earth.
Well, no, I was describing my own story, but I don't blame you if you saw it that way without squinting.

>>25341614
>idea can be reduced and compared to another idea
this applies to everything
>>25341577
sure, if it were written well. eastern euros love Roadside Picnic/Stalker derivatives and they're an active reader base of webnovels

>>25341630
>if it were written well
Your mileage may vary.

>>25341617
>Well, technically, so are drug dealers, but I doubt you can list that on any CV.
What you can list on a CV isn't related to what makes someone a NEET.
>Well, no
M8, telling someone they are describing something they are not literally describing is a way of indicating their description overlaps with something else. Often this is done as a comedic way of pointing out a thing exists when it was not thought to exist.

>>25341647
>NEET
>not in education, employment, or training
NEET and hikkimori aren't the same
you can be a NEET with an income

>>25341659
It's down to semantics and whether or not "criminal" is a job description.

>>25341577
I have lost interest in everything since aislop took over. I assume everything is made with ai now.

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>>25341674
I am mildly happy to inform you that no robots were involved in writing it.

>>25341672
implying that drug dealers are employed is funny as fuck
there is a NEET gray zone where they have a taxable income stream but aren't employed by a company i.e doujin artists

>>25341577
yes i would read your STALKER novel

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>>25341712
I am happy to hear that, anon. The link is up a few posts.
Looking forward to hearing
>it's shit
If only you bother to add a few words on why it is so.

>>25341718
ugh fuck you had to call me out
ok i will finish writing this chapter and read yours

>>25341589
>Reddit Player One

>>25341577
Sounds a bit bland honestly. What else is going on in this story? Any mysteries, progression, interesting characters, etc?

>>25341745
>Any mysteries, progression, interesting characters, etc?
It is a mystery.

Jokes aside, I intentionally sold the premise short because I don't want to spoil the entire story.
Of course there is "progression" in the sense that the MC develops and "progresses" his equipment and tactics, but his goal is not to senselessly risk death for no reason.
I guess the thematic spoiler would be his goal is to sensefully risk death for a GOOD reason.

Is there a dedicated writing discord for my people, the degenerates?

>>25341808
You have entire sites.

>>25341808
I don't know what you mean exactly by degenerate but there's Erotically Inclined and Erotica Abyss. Those are very wide. For more male audience/weeb specific stuff probably the r/haremlit discord could point you to other ones or get into the discords for indie visual novel like DevTalk or Lemma Soft which hav nsfw sections.

>>25341617
I think it's more the fact that you wrote it for the monthly one shot. People aren't as enthusiastic about those as the full novella contests. That, and Honeyfeed is more geared towards the weeb and LN audience.
This is all without actually reading what you wrote tbf, so take it with a grain of salt.

>>25341577
I am all for keeping my loot out of the taxfags' grubby claws but I don't care about modern weaponry and I would much rather have a fantasy harem than the absolute nothing you seem to offer.

>>25341928
>I think it's more the fact that you wrote it for the monthly one shot
I was quite directly comparing my story to others in the contest, though I'm not sure how to actually gauge success against failure. I imagine high views but low chapter reads means people don't care. In that aspect, I guess my story is not doing too bad?

I fully intend to continue it after the contest, though I'm not sure when. I'm very busy with Slop King and I don't want to sacrifice Slop King time for what is essentially a side project started out of stress overload.

That being said, including the contest chapter, which I believe is self-contained and stand-alone as far as the contest is concerned, I have 4(4.5) more chapters so far. I could drop them somewhere as a preview, provided anyone at all here is actually interested.

>>25341934
Main character actually has a kind-hearted cop and a teenage girl who might be strongly on the spectrum orbit him. If you really want to fight over it.

>>25341936
Not too kind-hearted to shoot joggers, I hope.

>>25341936
Sounds like garbage.

>>25341988
I'm curious to know why, anon.

Alright, which one of you wangers made the /v/ thread?

>>25342083
what?

show me your litrpg spreadsheet which you use to track your stats etc
been looking, found just a few so far

>>25342094
Are you too daft to check if there is a wng-related thread on /v/?
I assume he means this one since it has the Dungeon Cuckold Carl image. >>>/v/741080426

>>25342098
I went and searched for "wn" and "web novel" and nothing came up.
But it's probably just some normalfag since they're using the Amazon book cover. DCC flopped as an actual web novel.

>>25342098
there's enough webnovel related concepts that trying to filter through everything is a nightmare
>high traffic thread
the idea of writing for /v/ermin sickens me. why must our readers be these types

>>25342102
>DCC flopped as an actual web novel.
How the fuck do you flop as a WN only to get bunch of adaptations?

>>25342102
>>25342106
Fair enough, I just opened /v/ and it was on the top of the catalog so I didn't even have to think of terms to search.

>>25342115
tradpub and webnovels have different values

How the fuck do webnovelist write and edit so fucking fast?

It takes me months to write and edit a 10k word story.
Yet they are able to blast out finished chapters daily.

>>25342102
DCC guy recommends using KU (Kindle Unlimited).
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>>25341993
>a kind-hearted cop
>and a teenage girl
>who might be strongly on the spectrum
>orbit him.
For what reason would characters like these exist in your story? In any story?

>>25342216
for what reason do any characters exist

>>25342206
There are a couple of things I do.
>I have an outline and bulletpoints of events I want to hit every chapter that I update as I go for arcs and sub-arcs
>I write stream of consciousness for 3-4 hours a day, not even worrying about typos, bad word choice or prose, purely get the first draft completed as fast as possible while having momentum in your creativity, drive and dynamic world modeling in your head, the trick is to not separate the thinking through and writing into two separate tasks
>I straight up copy my raw braindump text into AI, tell it to fix my spelling and grammar mistakes and to make it match the general style of my previous chapters
>I do 30--60 minutes of proofreading and editing but AI is good enough and my braindump is complete enough that it creates a very good flow indistinguishable from my previous chapters

I can finish high quaity chapters very fast like this. You need to realize that you're a storyteller and writing is merely a barrier to get the reader to experience what you have in your mind, so get what you have in your mind as rapidly to the page as possible, don't overthink things, this isn't literature. They want to experience the autistic anime scene you conjured up in your head, not read the prose of charles dickens.

>>25342216
Do you want me to spoil the entire thing, or something?

>>25342206
I write 2500 words daily at the minimum, I've got a 4.8 rating on RR. My trick is:
>Write draft
>Do 20 squats (Helps blood sugar, resets your brain)
>Reread draft, check for errors or more questionable decisions
>Edit them out
>Do 20 more squats
>Reread
>Repeat until content

You'd think this would get agonizing but by this point I do maybe 80 squats tops for a chapter.

>>25342291
can I substitute the 20 squats for an orgasm?

>>25342299
lol

I take 2100mg of ashwagandha daily so I like to believe it helps me a lot, and recently I changed from 2 to 1 monitor setup to better laser focus on whatever I'm doing. Sometimes I'll crossfade alcohol with weed when I'm writing or editing. Outlining helps a ton, even a simplistic 1bulletpoint=1sentence per chapter for a general grasp of the story flow but even after launch and writing I didn't ultize it much because I had written 3 versions of the story to that point so it was just writing by the heart and pattern. I had prewriten 50k words for the first act of the story over a ~3 month period, before launch, so it was just a matter of editing it for public release with a few new chapter additions here and there after launch. I don't write/edit daily, but there'll be periods when I do. Right now I'm waiting on my 2nd act volume art before I get back into the grind. My chapters are usually 2k words and some 1k here and there with a few big 6-8k word space fleet battles. I also don't chedule chapters and post them as soon as i'm done with the couple editing passes.

>>25342308
hiromoot ate my quote >>25342206

>>25342299
If it works, go for it.

>>25342299
How fast can you do 20 squats vs an orgasm? Time is money anon.

>>25342351
>>25342340
Can I save time by jorking it while writing?

>>25342370
Talking from experience, no. One hand will dominate the other. You either get so caught up in the wanking that you start writing smuttier, or you get into flow state and forget about masturbating. Don't mix them.

>>25341922
>>doesn't link to his slop
>>wonders why nobody reads it
Doesn't matter; anons here don't actually read.

>>25342461
I listen to TTS versions while at work.

So while I technically don't read many web novels I do listen to a shitload of them.

>>25342461
I'm reading 3 on and off already in between other stuff. I don't have time to read anons amateur works.

>>25342461
When I posted mine I actually got a +30 view bump and a couple ratings and follows. It's not substantial (There's less than like maybe 60 people in these threads) but it's good networking at the least.

>>25342486
TTS is a pretty unique way to experience them.
I mean, my issue with audiobooks is that the narrator has to pick a way to interpret the text, so its meaning actually changes in the delivery. Which is kinda bad, because it diminishes one of the strengths of the medium.
TTS are monotone, so their meaning isn't changed.

>>25342499
>There's less than like maybe 60 people in these threads)
/lit/ is is extremey slow board, I'd say it is closer to 6 than 60