/lit/ — Is it the most prescient novel ever?

It Can't Happen Here is better and more prescient

>>25341795
>muh trump is a fascist totalitarian
no

>>25341798
The book came out like 3 years before Germany started annexing everyone, cool it with the TDS autism retard

>>25341803
It's based on Hitler and Mussolini, it didn't presage them

>>25341810
Good thing I never said or implied that it did, illiterate retard.

>>25341828
you kinda did, though.

>>25341833
Wrong again

Men tuned to higher state of reality have the gift to perceive what for others is still behind the horizon.

>>25341795
I would say it's better but not as prescient. It's certainly more realistic, with respect to the supreme court overruling, insular economy, ad hoc foreign policies, etc. BNW for me took a riskier gamble outlining state-mandated anesthetic pastimes, so to me that's the more impressive prediction.

>>25341798
>I AM NOT OBSESSED

>>25341835
no you

>>25341828
If the distinction you're making is that Germany hadn't yet started annexing neighboring countries, then the book isn't really about annexation and also Japan had already invaded China years before its publication.

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>this book predicted hitler's invasions
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN THIS BOOK PREDICTED HITLER

>>25341845
Hitler already elucidated Lebensraum and his plan for invading countries in Mein Kampf, little bro

>>25341846
I know, that's mentioned in the novel in a few spots, which you would know if you had read it. But talk is often cheap, and if anyone had any certainty as to Hitler's ambitions becoming real back then, the Munich agreement never would have happened. Or am I wrong and you have read it?

>>25341853
>hitler: "im going to invade our neighbors"
>"dude what if american hitler invaded america's neighbors"
>"holy shit how prescient"

>>25341907
I don't remember the part where Hitler explicitly outlined using false flag tactics or ad hoc paramilitary partisans or manufactured consent or keeping wives/mistresses private to emphasize strong independent imagery or rounding up people on boxcars or turning personal grievances into national indignations or using stats to make most unemployment disappear or micro-managing concentration camp press media as early as 1935, but you seem very, very smart, so please expound.

>>25341946
NTA. Hitler had already done most of that stuff by the time the book was written as had Mussolini and Stalin. All that shit went down all over Europe to greater and lesser degrees after the end of WWI.

>>25342095
The first press for nazi camps started in 1937. Looks like someone is lying for good boy points

I just can't think of anything more disgusting than thinking someone is worse than you and subhuman and that you have the right to abuse or own them. That is just real genuine evil.

>>25342136
I agree, white people suck, especially the straight male ones

>>25342114
First, I said "most of" so your reading comprehension is shit. Second, you think Nazis invented concentration camps? Lol. It was standard colonial practice, retard. Ever hear of an Indian Reservation?

>>25342204
>most of
So expound on them then. Didn't you see me use that word? Is your reading comprehension okay?
>Second, you think Nazis invented concentration camps?
No. That was never said or implied. Still okay big guy?

>>25341798
you just had to derail and ruin the thread with your schizo-sissygasm didnt you

anon backpedaling so hard about thinking ICHH predicted trump that he's claiming the book based on hitler predicted hitler

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>>25342226
trump-esque populists have been predicted for years before 2015-16, please fucking try to keep up for once in your life

>>25342211
>So expound on them
I just did, dummy.
>That was never said
Then why did you randomly sperg to me about camps, retard? Fucking Canada had concentration camps for Ukrainians in like 1914 and even shot a bunch of them who tried to escape.

>>25342229
how is this a response to my post

>>25342232
>I just did
Oh so you don't know what the word expound means. That's okay, when you get your high school diploma it should become clear by then.
>>25342232
>Then why did you randomly sperg to me about camps
I specifically said "micro-managing concentration camp PRESS MEDIA" referring to state propaganda downplaying their labour rights violation and whatnot, something that the Nazis started doing with camps like Theresienstadt about 2 years after the novel was published. If you had read the book much of this would have already been obvious. You HAVE read the novel right anon? You wouldn't spend this much time debating a book you've never read right.

>>25342233
>I don't read
like clockwork lmao

>>25342249
the bot is hallucinating quotations again :(

>>25342245
>Oh so you don't know what the word expound means.
I provided details about the camps, tard. >I specifically said "micro-managing concentration camp PRESS MEDIA" referring to state propaganda downplaying their labour rights violation
And states using propaganda wasn't a new phenomenon either. Holy shit you're a dumb one. Is It Could Happen Here the first book you've ever read or something? Lol.

>>25341777 (OP)
>>25341795
Both are good but Brave New World probably has an edge in prescience since it's a few years older. If they had come out the same year, maybe I'd have a different tune.

>>25342257
You haven't read the book so how would you know

>>25342261
It's BNW by a mile. The fact birth control pills and antidepressants not only exist but are widespread is enough for it to mog ICHH.

>>25342263
So you're getting schooled by someone who hasn't even read the book? That's the best cope you could muster? You've read the book and you don't know.

>>25342270
>I haven't read the book because I don't read
I accept your concession.

Was it autism?

>>25342265
Antidepressants came out 20 years after BNW and Making Canada Great Again became a thing like 90 years after ICHH, I dunno, one of these predictions certainly seems more extrasensory to me.

You lost because of an autism-adjacent cognitive disorder, yes.

>>25342271
>HE PREDICTED IT COULD HAPPEN HERE!
Wow, what a hot take! It's not like the Founding Fathers thought it necessary to create a Bill of Rights and a POTUS ran roughshod over convention and centralized power within the Executive during the Civil War or anything, right anon?

>>25342289
You didn't read the book so how would you know

>>25342275
>Making Canada Great Again
Anon finally reveals it was TDS 20 posts later

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Damn and I thought the McCarthy vs Faulkner threads were whiny and boisterous

>>25342275
Widespread use of antidepressants and birth control alongside the affect such would have on masking humanity and traditional social bonds. BNW by a mile.

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>can't argue the prescience point anymore
>smugly mention the ebin acronym meme and pray no one notices

>>25342296
I have though. You've also read it but you don't know. Are you just going to flame like a faggot until you get the last word because you can have it. However, that won't change the fact you exposed yourself as a historically illiterate midwit.

>>25342303
Maybe if you were on less birth control and Prozac you could type a proper English sentence, Alto.

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>>25342312
Here, grab this for your mom and step-dad. I know it's too late for you but in case you have siblings.

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>couldnt remember the Trianon press media chapter
>couldnt remember the 15 point protocol
>couldnt remember Informer book burning section
>couldnt remember Buzz administration sex parties via military brothels
>i've totally definitely absolutely read the novel, fellow bookworms

>>25342322
I can't make out what you said, your mouth is too dry, probably a side-effect from all the Interferon and Fluvoxamine.

>>25342330
>didn't know what NTA means
>doesn't realize multiple anons are pointing out he's a retard
HE HECKIN' PREDICTED IT COULD HAPPEN HERE, GUYS! GOOD THING THE MEDIA ISN'T CAPTURED SO FELATING THE PRESS AGED GREAT!

no meme arrow so guess what

>>25342333
That would have been clever if we weren't reading posts, tardo.

>>25341840
>>25342261
There's a reason Huxley is taught in high schools and Lewis not so much, you need an edgy premise like muh druggie shithole to make them remotely interested, so it deludes them into thinking that kinda shit fucks up countries more than certain economic policies, military sanctions, geopolitical armistices, etc. They gravitate to these dystopian novels the same way they're attracted to punk rock lyrics, it's mostly a fashion larp.

>>25342343
You would have been clever if you ever read books in general.

>>25342355
Sinclair Lewis is heavy handed, his characterizations are cartoonish, and his prose is terrible.

>>25342360
He predicted Donald fucking Drumpf and for that I will always be indebted to his foresight/skin.

>>25342357
>insult I already said, much better, above
Too bad it didn't work for you, midwit.

>>25342355
>edgy premise
well yeah of course, isn't that obvious lmao? brave new world literally ends with rope, it's the most cliche and edgy imagery imaginable