I am a railway fan from Moscow. In my free time, I make videos of trains, subways, and transportation. Ask questions about my activities, and the transport of my country, stereotypes, in general, everything that is interesting, I will try to answer.
>>2036651 There is no war in Moscow. Here, we are safe. Here, we are free. But Sobyanin rised the subway fare again. Fucker.
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Anonymous03/15/25(Sat)16:53:33
Despite this, Mosmetro is still operating at a loss, so we expect prices to rise again.
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Anonymous03/16/25(Sun)08:05:15
>>2036639(OP) Do those long-distance sleeper trains still exist where you have a bunch of bunks in open compartments? Or is everyone just taking the plane for those routes these days?
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Anonymous03/16/25(Sun)09:35:19
>>2036660 maybe it wouldn't operate at a loss if he didn't build stations in the middle of nowhere
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Anonymous03/16/25(Sun)11:21:36
How expensive is it compared to driving?
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Anonymous03/16/25(Sun)11:28:11
>>2036639(OP) You ever read the Metro books by Glukhovsky/ played the games. I’m just curious how accurate the setting are
I think you mean a "plackart". The reserved seat is still widely used in our country, but we do not have trains that have a reserved seat but no compartment — there is always the option to choose a compartment, but recently some trains do not have a reserved seat. A plackart is 1.5 - 2 times cheaper than a coupe, and I think that a reserved seat is still not such a bad option for transportation. But there are seats on two trains that leave the departure city at 22 PM and arrive at the final destination at 6 AM.
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RW fan from MSK03/16/25(Sun)17:03:33
Heт, к coжaлeнию нe читaл
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RW fan from MSK03/16/25(Sun)17:09:55
I'm sorry, I'm new to the site. How do I respond to a specific message? I have not read Glukhovsky's novels.
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Anonymous03/17/25(Mon)02:01:15
>>2036639(OP) Why the fuck are Moscow's city borders so weird, particularly in the southwest?
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Anonymous03/17/25(Mon)03:00:44
>>2036639(OP) henlo, what's ur fav line? (metro, long distance, whatever) u been to vladivostok, sakhalin, lake baikal? will railroad ever make it across the lena from nizhny bestyakh to yakutsk? also why tf is yakutsk booming in population? i read the short story Red Pyramid by vladimir sorokin, the train part stuck with me. good story although I don't have nearly enough russian history and literature background to fully understand
>>2036808 # Probably my favorite line is the Filevskaya metro line, because it is the most interesting and not boring for me. Unlike many other lines, it runs almost entirely on the surface and there are, damn it, many beautiful locations. It is the only line in Russia with fork movement — when trains from one station alternately depart and go to different destinations. This system has shown its inefficiency, because the intervals increase greatly and the entire line begins to suffer from a small delay. In addition, this is the only line where, at all terminal stations, the "U-turn" does not take place through special reverse dead ends in the tunnel behind the station by specially designed shunting drivers, but the drivers of the same trains move directly along the platform to opposite cabins. There is a buffet right on the platform at the Arbatskaya intermediate station, and I will definitely get off the train and run if my route runs through this station. It's got the best fuck coffee I've ever had. I haven't been to Siberia or Yakutsk, and I travel a little, mostly around Moscow and sometimes to the region, but I've watched videos about it. I haven't heard about population growth, I've Googled it now, it seems like the increase is absolutely natural, that is, no one moved there, just more people were born.
>>2036821 The fact that it is normal to piss between cars is a strong word. I don't know anyone I know who has done this or believes that it is "normal" in our country. All suburban trains have a toilet, in other regions they are being monitored, but in Moscow the electric trains are being updated and more than half of them are already there, but the depot just gave a dick for cleaning toilets in old trains. I personally visited this toilet 2 weeks ago (photo). And the toilets may also not work when your trip may last 2-3 hours. In such cases, doing your own business in the car is the only option. But in the new trains, there are no doors between the cars at all and cameras everywhere, so I think it's better not to do it there. In the subway, the doors between the cars are closed on old trains, and if you illegally opened these doors using a special key, you can pay a fine, but on new trains there are cameras everywhere and there are no doors between the cars, just a passage. And besides, most subway rides don't exceed an hour, so I don't think you'll need toilets, and if you do, some transfer hubs have paid toilets (~80¢)).
>>2036802 The "official" borders are bogus. Moscovites usually don't consider anything beyond the ring road Moscow (or even habitable). The big exclave to the top left is the OG soviet one, Zelenograd. It's a university town and the center of Russia's semiconductor manufacturing, and as such, in the soviet days was mostly populated by either very smart people or people who are about to become very smart. These smart people wanted the benefits and prestige of having Moscow residency, so Zelenograd is still kinda Moscow but also kinda isn't. The little tumors all around the city are all residential areas that kinda got assmiliated over years, to be given public transport unified with Moscow's system. All but two of them have metro stations nowadays. There are more residential areas that didn't get assimilated (note the smooth top right), but for the most part the ring road is lined with either forests or industrial land. The big tumor is the "New Moscow". Mostly forest. Exists because Sobyanin started running out of Moscow to build real estate on, and also to claim that Moscow's ecological situation has, on average, improved. The few towns that were in the area were not amused by Moscow's arrival tho. Note that the big tumor is flanked on both sides by older small tumors, you can see their thinner district borders- on the top left that's Skolkovo, another university town, now 100% more post-soviet, and lower right is Butovo, which has uniquely elevated metro (picrelated). The squiggly exclave to the left is owned by a big banker who lobbied for it to be a part of Moscow. Probably some tax thing. Don't pay attention.
>>2036839 Butovo also has a train particle accelerator, I mean, test loop. And a village with no electricity or running water inside the loop.
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RW fan from MSK03/17/25(Mon)15:04:39
>>2036802 Moscow needs new territories because many people from the regions come to Moscow to study and work, and they need somewhere to live.
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Anonymous03/17/25(Mon)20:11:06
>>2036834 >special reverse dead ends in the tunnel behind the station by specially designed shunting drivers >specially designed shunting drivers [guess you meant "designated"] lolwut I've never heard of any place having shunting drivers at the end of the line. Does it maybe have something to do with the very tight frequency?
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Anonymous03/17/25(Mon)20:13:16
>>2036639(OP) Last thing I heard there was work ongoing to interconnect the suburban train lines which ended at the terminal stations. Is that still ongoing?
>>2036869 Sorry, I have to admit that I use a translator :( I meant that there are special people at the terminal stations, train drivers. The train arrives at the terminal station and the driver who operated the train along the entire route gets off, and at the same time two shunting drivers get into the front and rear cabins each. First, the driver from the lead (first) car drives the train into a dead end, then he transfers control to the driver of the tail (last) car, who takes the train back to the station.
>>2036870 Yes, by 2023, 4 dimetric suburban railway lines have been created. There are still 2 lines without a diametrical connection (D5), but it seems that it can not be expected for the next 5 years for sure. These lines are the hardest to connect, and probably not that necessary.
Huh. The English Wikipedia pages for Moscow transit are surprisingly decent.
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Anonymous03/18/25(Tue)18:55:24
>>2036876 I understood you, I just think that's really curious. I don't know any place that does that. Closest thing I've seen is that at the end of the line there's another train driver waiting so he can get in at the other end of the train and get going right away.
>>2036877 Though the concept makes sense, the execution is a bit odd, since they route all the lines through the north side. Would have made more sense to build new tunnels through the city, but that was probably too expensive. Are all the trains coming from Aprelevka routed through this new line or do some still end at Kievskaya? Seems impractical to have that much of a roundabout before reaching the changeover with the circular line.
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RW fan from MSK03/18/25(Tue)19:52:24
>>2036945 Some trains are still running to Kievskaya, but they have made a new traffic pattern, there has never been such a thing in Moscow before. All MCD trains from the Zheleznodorozhnaya side go along their separate tracks to Aprelevka with all stops, and do not go beyond it. And there are also 2 more routes along which all trains from the far suburbs of the Kiev direction go, they only go to Kievskaya, but on the section from Aprelevka to Kievskaya they skip a lot of points (they stop only at 4 out of 17) By the way, transfers between these trains can be made free of charge and unhindered.
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Anonymous03/19/25(Wed)02:53:47
>>2036878 >tightening radius on ramp that is not going to end well
I think so, because passengers have more similar routes. Previously, people could only choose the subway because, first of all, to take the train, you need to look at the timetable, otherwise you can wait a long time, and the subway always runs often. Now trains also run frequently and you don't have to look at the timetable in advance, but just come to the station knowing that you will definitely leave on time. And of course, the comfort of new electric trains plays a role. Based on all this, the flow of passengers is evenly distributed between the metro and the trains. Also, the presence of diameters through the center of Moscow plays a role. If the line ends at a train station in Moscow, then passengers simply arrive at the train station and the whole crowd goes to the subway at one/two/ three stations of the same transfer hub, then they go to the line they need and switch to it. But now people can immediately make direct transfers to those lines that they previously could not, and the excess occupancy of other lines is decreasing.
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Anonymous03/19/25(Wed)21:48:32
Do Russian transport unions have much power? Are there regular strikes? (apart from drones)
>>2036992 Troika (metro card) integration and more frequent service made the routes a lot more convenient, and I've been using them more since they banned folding bikes (among other transport) from the regular subway. The additional coverage on the periphery in addition to the MCC is pretty nice. But I'll use this opportunity to rant a bit about that personal transport ban on the subway (or rather, "all wheeled transport should be bagged", which is effectively a ban, can't even take a skateboard or roll a monowheel like a suitcase o' batteries that it is), it's clearly been done to force people to use Yandex's rental scooters. And the fuckers enforce it too. Mafia city.
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Anonymous03/21/25(Fri)04:52:00
>>2036732 You can get 100 years of unlimited pass ticket for a price of a middle-range car.
I want to visit Russia but I can't because of FUCKING SANCTIONS
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Anonymous03/22/25(Sat)18:13:13
>>2037140 can you actually not or is it just difficult? i must go next year, though stuff would have changed by then but perhaps not
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Anonymous03/22/25(Sat)20:49:46
>>2037251 It has always been a huge pain in the ass for westerners to visit Russia. All sorts of dumb visas and what not. I would be especially leery of going now where you might get turned into a pawn in prisoner release diplomacy.
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Anonymous03/23/25(Sun)04:34:34
>>2037251 >no direct flights >no international booking aggregators >cash only >>2037265 Just don't bring (((medical))) cannabis in your purse.
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Anonymous03/23/25(Sun)10:25:45
>>2037265 I used to travel there from w. Europe to visit some distant senpai, I just went to a travel agency that was specialised and they got me the visa done in a couple of days for a reasonable price. Don't know if this is still possible.
I think for flying there the easiest way is via Istanbul as its not that much roundabout and Turkish is a really good airline, or via Belgrade or Dubai. Alternatively you can travel to Narva in Estonia, cross the border on foot and from there take a bus or train to St. Petersburg, which is like two hours away.
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Anonymous03/24/25(Mon)20:11:50
>>2037287 I'd be going Tokyo -> Beijing -> Vladivostok I think. Which is a ridiculous detour since they're so close but whatever
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Anonymous03/24/25(Mon)22:16:54
>>2036869 >>2036876 I believe that's also a thing for dealing with incidents on the Paris Metro and RER, though only using one extra driver: driver one drives the train into the terminus, driver 2 gets into the back cab while passengers exit the train, they both maneuver to reverse the train, driver 2 drives back into the station, driver 1 leaves while passengers board, driver 2 drives the line back (so you don't actually even need an extra driver, as driver 1 can now be someone else's driver 2). Pretty sure it's at least colloquially known as "the Moscow maneuver"
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Anonymous03/25/25(Tue)14:13:29
>>2036639(OP) OP post pics and info on Kalanchyovskaya resp. Ploschad Tryokh Vokzalov station. This seems to be one of the major elements of the central diameter right? From what it seems on the map three lines ought to pass through there.
Also question: Apart from the suburban elektrichkas is there much regional rail service around moscow (not long distance)?
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Anonymous03/26/25(Wed)08:15:27
>>2037409 >Kalanchyovskaya Only D2 and D4 trains pass through the station itself. D1 (Leningradsky railway terminal), Yaroslavsky and Kazansky terminals and Komsomolskaya metro station are 5-10 minutes away on foot. The area has been a major transport hub since the latter half of 19th century. >regional rail service There are trains to all neighbouring regions, with 2-4 hours travel time, most notable being Moscow-St.Petersburg high speed rail. If you want to travel beyond the Golden Ring, take the overnigth sleeper train pill.
are train drivers considered lowly peasants in your country
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Anonymous04/13/25(Sun)09:56:49
>>2038757 No, in fact they get paid better than rocket engineers.
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Anonymous04/13/25(Sun)21:36:22
>>2038767 how is that possible some kind of labour shortage bs?
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Anonymous04/13/25(Sun)21:58:18
>>2038818 Scientists, academics and teachers in Russia are supposed to work on pure enthusiasm, and paying them generously like in the Soviet times would set a precedent where everyone would suddenly want to be a scientist and there won't be anyone left to be a bydlo who would vote for Putin, support our alcohol industry and trust everything on the screen. Meanwhile, Mosmetro pays reasonably well for the job done. Funnily enough, Mosgortrans, in charge of trams, buses et al, apparently struggles to get enough drivers in the meantime. Maybe they don't pay enough.
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Anonymous05/03/25(Sat)10:39:19
I went to Moscow in 2001. Loved it. I would really like to go again now I'm in my 30s.
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Anonymous05/03/25(Sat)11:23:48
>>2039474 They've shut down the trolleybus system not long ago, those absolute niggers
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Anonymous05/25/25(Sun)02:05:26
you ever taken one of those jet turbine powered river hydrofoils from the 1960s?
>>2041336 Not OP but I took a ride on one of the old Meteors in St Petersburg when I was maybe 4 years old. I remember it being very loud, but that's about it. By the time I realised how cool it actually was many years later, it was long gone. They apparently started making new ones recently, though. Maybe I should go for a ride in one of them this summer, actually. None of them in Petersburg yet but they are navigating Volga already.