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Best E-Bike for under 1450$?

is measuring pin to pin distance a reliable way of checking chain wear? like dose it isolate roller wear or whatever?

>>2075662
No you need the Park Tool

>>2075662
Chain checkers are useless, back when I went to bike shops I had a chain with maybe 300 miles on it, took it to the shop to replace a cable, and the shop monkey was like "your chain is old as fuck man!" and showed me with his chain checker that I needed to buy a new one

From then on I just tracked mileage and I replace them about every 2500 miles

>>2075663
frig

What is a good bike lock? I am leaving shorty to buy one...

>>2075652
how the fuck would we know?
USE
THE
EBIKE
THREAD

>>2075664
that checker was probably damaged.
mine works great

>>2075686
They're not exactly complex or delicate instruments. Maybe they just suck.

>>2075652
you NEED to KILL your SELF now !

>>2075692
ok, well, mine works great.
if some shop monkey steered you wrong, then something was up. maybe he was just trying to upsell you a new chain.

>>2075675
it's complicated
start by discarding the notion that a lock, any lock, will prevent your bike from being stolen in the next thirty seconds. no lock will do that.

>>2075702
I understand locks & doors etc, all things are not stopping mechanism but rather they only slowing mechanism. In my city people steal bikes with angle grinders.

>>2075675
fortnine did a thing on it but iirc a good quality literal chain from a hardware store and a padlock is best. a proper u-lock is second best just for the sheer volume and strength of material but certain attacks btfo it entirely. cable locks are resistant to most attacks but not as much as a length of chain. finally, the stupid articulated bar things are a total meme and you shouldnt buy one ever and are open to MORE types of attack since they can be pried apart and the bearing link thingies are a huge weak point.

granted, none of it matters if it's a crappy tubular lock that can be opened with a bic pen or you're a moron who simply chains up the thing incorrectly

>>2075710
>padlock

lmfao
no

>cable locks are resistant to most attacks
around here we call them gift ribbons

>>2075652
Cube if you're in yurop I guess

>>2075702
>>2075703
they have diamond impregnated ulocks now that chew up angle grinder disks. what would be thief is going around with multiple disks?

>>2075675
I saw a pretty good deal on a mini U-lock with cable for the wheels at Harbor Freight the other day. there's a section with all types of padlocks & etc.
I also noticed that they had a tree trimmer very similar to the one I had just got bought from Ali for what I considered a great deal for the same price, so I reckon their other prices are pretty good in comparison.

>>2075712
i didnt say they tank that shit. they are just equally shit (only moderately) against nearly all attacks because the strands can move, making grinders marginally less effective, bolt cutters require a few tries, and looped-end types let you use whatever actually good lock you want.

u-locks stand strong against most attacks, but the integral lock is usually shit and easy to defeat. aint no sense in getting a crazy diamond coated hardened tungsten alloy u-lock that uses a fucking 3$ combo lock on it a child can simply pull apart. chains offer the relative strengths of both at any gauge and if you want you can get ridiculous 3 inch thick links like off a crane rigging. and they're a bit more convenient and you can solve most of its other problems yourself. chain too long? just run it through another link instead of end-to-end. chain too heavy? carry less of it if you know where you're going has more convenient tie-up points. chain too ugly or fucking up your frame? get a sleeve nigga.

>>2075739
harbor freight has always been cheap chinese junk rebadged as being "built in america" by doing final assembly and repackaging in hickland somewhere

>>2075743
>cheap chinese junk
yeah, and?
we're already having the conversation that the best locks on offer can still be defeated by a battery angle grinder. so why pay more?

>>2075675
Here

So I got a kryptonite chain lock. It is for my salsa rangefinder.

>>2075746
i mentioned it more because
>very similar to the one I had just got bought from Ali for what I considered a great deal for the same price
THOUGH

>so why pay more?
eggsactly, just get a length of chain at the very same harbour freight. and a good lock. tell them you're securing your truck box against crackheads at the job site and they will show you the backroom boring stock for contractors that actually works

>>2075749
about as good as it gets but still keep in mind that it is merely a deterrent. the very best locks available can be defeated in seconds, not minutes and nobody but you will do a thing to interfere. bike thieves are not sane, they will target anything, anywhere, with or without motive and they go around with the tools of their avocation. ultimately you can only deny them the opportunity.

>>2075750
>>2075743
>>2075710
yOU are the DUMBEST motherfucker to ever be in /n/ you are so fucking retarded how do you even pass captcha.

unironically why do people say thinner tires "roll faster" because of hysterisis or whatever? I haven't heard this before the past couple years. When I was growing up, thin high pressure wheels were an aero thing, not a wheel dynamics thing.

Also, when did elliptical gears fall out of fashion and why?

>>2075767
Its the same as on cars. Thinner means there is less ground contact, which means less friction. And since a part of braking is that you get go down towards the ground, braking ends up having more surface contact than just rolling.

The problem in biking is that PEAK performance has already been reached by Velodrome people decades ago. Its not getting better than whatever super skinny fuck they are rolling on. And Dutch cruise tires do not have a significantly larger contact patch when inflated properly either.

>>2075767
they do roll faster in terms of less friction but the higher pressures they require are now known to be a net detriment in terms of ride quality, bouncing around off of every uneven surface on the road -- although usually small bumps -- is not as efficient as absorbing all the bumps with lower pressure and rolling smooth.
high pressure tires FEEL fast as fuck, and like anon says, in the velodrome, they are. but under regular (or poor) riding conditions, you're robbing Peter to pay Paul.
the pro peloton used to be on 20-23mm, but now they're all on 28 with a couple holdouts on 25, but with differing manufacturing yielding different results, I bet when you lay calipers on the tires, they're all around the same width

>>2075790
>he cares about lower rolling resistance
>while BRAKING specifically
lol

so it's just cope from aerofags then? because in the automotive world the rule of thumb is to use the widest tires you can before handling is impacted too much that you can't use the extra speed

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>>2075818
The aerofags do have a point. But the next step is also outlawed in competitive biking(MORE aero via body parts).

Other anon put it really well
>is not as efficient as absorbing all the bumps with lower pressure and rolling smooth.
Velodroming you can get away with it. But you could also get away with just riding a round steel rim and having the velodrome be coated in something nice. While IRL you don't want to KYS hitting grainier asphalt or even cobblestone.

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Anyone tried these Chaoyang H496 merlin tires? I hear they're close to GP4000.

Is a 120TPI tire significantly better than a 60TPI one? Like comfort, ride feel, etc.

>>2075843
Ive had 60EPI tyres be more dampening than 120EPI ones, So I would not only look at that number.
That being said 60EPI is the minimum I would choose

>>2075646 (OP)
Opinions on PEGASUS Premio SL Disc?
It's apparently for a half a price now and I'm wondering if it's a steal or just shit. What's the typical price you see in western Europe/USA?
I need a decent bicycle for long weekend rides at last. I was riding on old heavy mtbs whole life.

>>2075843
why would you get these when real GP5Ks are the same price?
i see them online for around 30 euros all the time

>>2075675
if you have insurance they sometimes specify which bike lock to use based on a (probably bs) accreditation or they dont pay out

i view all locks as defeat-able so just buy the cheapest one the jews approve

>>2075866
Or what about PEGASUS Piazza? It's on pretty huge sale as well. I could see myself buying it blind.

>>2075843
>close to GP4000

so complete trash

>Is a 120TPI tire significantly better than a 60TPI one? Like comfort, ride feel, etc.

yeah but not if they're contis

>>2075866
>>2075866
all I can tell you is I've been coming here over a decade and I've never heard of that brand.

step-through frames aren't inherently bad but the ones that dip sharply like that have to be beefed up with thicker framing. the "mixte" style step-throughs are preferable. you talk about "old slow mtbs" but nothing about those bikes seems like it would outperform an mtb, in fact, to the contrary: if you had a nice old mtb without any suspension (heavy, pointless unless off-road) and slick tires, it should be way sportier. but if you're experience was with crappy, cheap department store mtbs, the Pegasus quality should be a little better.

I'm afraid I can't make any recommendations on new bikes because I don't follow the market but I'm sure there's better bikes for the money.
trekking style is kind of hard to recommend. bike nerds usually will get a decent road bike (they come in flat bar models but the many hand positions on a drop bar are advantageous) or hybrid and then outfit it with fenders and racks and play with the stem and bars to get them more upright. there probably are cool trekking bikes but I just don't know a lot about that style.

>>2075866
>literally who brand
>MoDerN cRuiSeRR frame
>third-shift shimano slop
>front sus
>a fucking 27(!!) speed (!?!?)
>has to "show off" that it has LE DISCS!!! in the model name when off-the-rack bikes have had discs as standard for like 10-20 years
looks like shit but for ten c-notes you could do a lot worse. and cruisers are gay dogshit with no practical advantages whatsoever when you can get any hardtail and throw a rack on it, and then have even MORE space to store junk by getting a triangle bag or two

> for long weekend rides
road bikes are for homos but are made for that. or lose a few IQ points to get a "gravel bike" i.e. what anon said, a hardtail mtb (so not an mtb) with road tires on it (so basically a road bike, but flat bars)

the only reason to get le dutch bike is having been brain damaged by NJB

Could someone explain to me the concept of "Using your hips to pedal"? I'm trying to sort of rock my hips from side to side making sure when my leg is extended, one side of my hip is lower than the other side. Is this the way to go?

>>2075882
your hips should move on their own

If shocks are so bad on bikes, why do cars have them?

>>2075886
Why don't you get a pedal powered car and see how much crap you want to keep on it that adds weight.

>>2075882
that's not a thing. if your hips rock side to side your saddle isn't set up correctly. whoever told you that is simply wrong, and not just wrong but making shit up that is so far beyond wrong that it beggars belief.

>>2075886
shocks are not bad on bikes, where are you people getting this stuff?

>>2075892
He probably means for bikes to ride on the road, where they sre unnecessary extra weight.

>>2075886
cars weigh a literal ton. all that weight accumulates more inertia than a bike can ever have, and throws that inertia around, causing it to go in directions other than where you are steering, including up. the effect is multiplied by going speeds faster than a bike is capable of.
do you really not understand how things in the world work?

>>2075886
they are bad on a road bike where you want stiffness direct power transfer not on mtb bike where you trade that for being to tackle obstacles and terrain

>>2075882
I'm not familiar with that phrase but you are definitely not implementing that idea correctly.
the meaning is surely to activate the gluteal (butt) muscles and use them for as much of the pedal stroke as you can. this is a meaning I would agree with. rocking your hips as you describe may not be detrimental but I don't think it's helpful, and indeed is often a warning sign for incorrect saddle height, because if you overextend your legs, riders will often be forced to rock side-to-side like that at the bottom of the pedal stroke. so if that's the case, definitely lower the saddle until your knees are always slightly bent at the bottom of the stroke without any rocking. if your saddle is correct and you're just rocking anyway, I'd say it's pointless and could maybe even be detrimental, but I've never heard anyone recommend doing that.

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>>2075866
seems overpriced i bought an e bike for the same specs for the same money
like a deore hardtail should be sub-1k i dont see the added value here unless im missing something
for 1500 id get a checkpoint alr gen 5

>>2075890
then why do people have lights, computers, overlapping gear ratios, paint, saddles, cargo racks, cargo itself, sometimes literal bells and/or whistles, etcetera on they're bike's

>>2075886
>why do cars have them?
They don't.

>>2075901
>BMC TwoStroke

>does not have a two stroke engine on it, not even any source of its own motive power at all

>>2075912
wait until you find out about their XC fully

>>2075913
Fully what? Fully Based? Based on a shrimp frying this rice?

>>2075910
none of those things, by themselves or even in most combinations, weigh the difference between a sus fork and rigid, or a sus frame and rigid, or both.
just buy a car and fuck off to /o/. you'd obviously be much happier , and we definitely would be

>>2075918
This. Fully this. A suspension adds 15+ POUNDS to your bike and there is literally no use case where it helps instead of hurts. It is 100% pointless to ever have a suspension on your bike.

Why do they still make bikes out of steel? Steel is magnetic. It wreaks havoc with bike computers, especially if there's lots of residual magnetism in the area from nons on e-"bikes".

>>2075924
nice try. troll harder

>>2075937
Sorry you're slowed down by electrical infetterence .

>>2075938
scan each snickers bar individually