/o/ — Reminder that Enzo Ferrari died in a FWD shitbox

Probably had a heart attack from how shit it drove

>>28984646
europeans love front wheel drive. they practically nut over it. the only thing that makes them nut harder is an automatic transmission.

>>28984651
I'm sorry that you can't import a Ford Ka.
Thoughts and prayers.

>>28984651
I don't think euros love FWD cars with a heavy V8 in front of the front axle

>>28984657
Guess I'll just have to stick to my RWD V8. enjoy your Ford Ka.

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>>28984666
*Front loaded120hp V8 RWD with a 3 speed automatic that weighs 1800 kilos

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>>28984677
*that's also faster than european """sports""" cars let alone their front wheel drive shit

>>28984679
>Grug big motor! Grug go fast straight line!
A gentle curve will take out that fox body and the retarded live axle. It's like trying to run with your shoelaces tied together.

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>>28984681
not that european cars from that era could turn.

>>28984640 (OP)
I like it, whomst cares muh dynamics it's a comfy daily with cushiony leather seats that makes good noises. The well healed buyers of these probably could also afford a dedicated sports car for the weekends anyways.

>>28984640 (OP)
most people do. the amount of people who die in a RWD shitbox is vastly inflated simply due to the majority of ambulances being rear wheel drive.

>>28984640 (OP)
And?

>>28984685
lol, did the Porsche never leave first gear or somethning?

>>28984916
928 is a GT car, it doesn't have to turn well

>>28984651
meanwhile almost all europeans can drive manual while americans revere it as a special car enthusiast skill

>>28984681
>>28984685
Convert that mustang to a poor man's 3 link with a panhard bar and it will turn even better than the Camaro. There's nothing Euro cars have to brag about all fucking aluminum everything and weighing more than a loaded suburban

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>>28984640 (OP)
It wasn't a Thema 8.32, it was an Alfa Romeo 164 2.0 Twin Spark.

He always knew that Alfa Romeo was the superior Italian manufacturer since forever.

>>28985116
One of the most based Alfa Romeo ever made, it doesn't matter that it's FWD or on a shared platform, it's just peak Alfa Romeo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53TLUf8ReV8

>>28984640 (OP)
So what, he was a fucking faggot

>>28985208
shut the fuck up bitch

>>28985208
>>28985265
got a pair of lovebirds here huh

>>28984938
>meanwhile almost all europeans can drive manual
only 30% of the cars on european roads are even manuual. I doubt many of them have ever driven one to begin with.

>>28984685
91 fucking camaro lollllll the epitome of vehicle dynamics

>>28985287
>only 30% of the cars on european roads are even manuual.
u r stoopid
Confusing new with existing cars.

>>28985337
that's not new cars, though.

>>28985342
u r stoopid

>>28984640 (OP)
Man I love the thema 8-32
Such a ridiculous car that I cant help but love

>>28985345
that number is all vehicle registrations, not just new cars. retardo.

>>28985349
Post it then, muttoid.

>>28985350
https://www.motor1.com/news/770587/manual-transmissions-versus-automatic-numbers/

>>28984651
>the only thing that makes them nut harder is an automatic transmission
I think you're getting Europeans mixed up with Americans.

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>>28984679
>>28984685
>>28985105
I've watched a lot of 80s Group A racing with E30s going up against higher powered cars, including the Foxbody Mustang, and I can tell you that any gap gained by the Mustang on the straights was immediately caught back up at the end of the straight during braking.

The E30 had a reputation as one of the best handling cars of 80s Group A.

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>>28984679
Lol @ an M3 being slower than a V6 Mustang.
>>28985350
>muttoid.
Muslim invaded hands typed this post

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>>28985356
I am? Porsche wouldn't be making manuals if they only sold cars in europe.

>>28984679
I love foxbodys and hate bmws but the fastest factory foxes did not fucking break 15s quarter times I do not give a fuck what you say.

>>28984681
shut up edgar, theyre only dangerous with bald tires.

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>>28985355
The article is talking about new sales.
>Last year, cars with manual transmissions accounted for only 29 percent of registrations in the five major European markets.
In bongland alone the majority was manual a couple of years ago.
https://www.directlinegroup.co.uk/en/news/brand-news/2022/the-age-of-the-automatic--last-person-to-take-a-manual-driving-t.html
>Currently, manual cars still account for 70 per cent of the 31.7 million cars on UK’s roads
And going by your argument muttmericans have an even worse percentage.
I'm being le epic trolled, right? Not even a mutt is this stupid.

>>28985359
that's nice, but we're talking about road cars. not highly modified race cars. the road going E30 was a shitbox and wasn't beating anything.

>>28985371
>baby doesn't know about Group A rules

The E30 road car is a much better handling car than the Foxbody mustang, as proven by its far superior performance in Group A racing.

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>>28985364
You're a fucking idiot Anon. Factory stock LX 5.0s were knocking down low 14s with a decent driver and optional 3.08s.

>>28985370
>The article is talking about new sales.
>doesn't say "new" anywhere
>just the total number of registrations
???
>Currently, manual cars still account for 70 per cent of the 31.7 million cars on UK’s roads
okay, what about the rest of europe?
>muttmericans have an even worse percentage.
yet, they're the only ones keeping your enthusiast cars alive>>28985362 let's not forget europe wants to ban ICE lol.

>>28985372
Group A rules allowed for extensive modifications over group N. they weren't road cars.

>>28985380
They were unibody cars with suspension that was fundamentally the same as the road going cars, and the semi-trailing IRS of the E30 proved to be far superior to the 4 link Mustang rear end.
(to the surprise of no one)

>>28985384
so post a road going car actually beating anything.

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>>28985376
You are without a doubt the dumbest mutt I've had the misfortune of interacting with today, God forbid tomorrow.
Also the Italians are based, kudos to them.

>>28985389
Beating anything?
As in beating it in a race?
As in like.... a highly popular racing series or something?

>>28984681
Enzo in his own words said that power is the one thing that matters in a car

>>28984938
damn, and they're still this bad at driving them?

>>28985407
yea, post a road car (of which Group A is not) beating something else in anything.

>>28985420
Might be hard to find records of people racing their cars competitively against each other specifically NOT in any of the popular racing series set up for people to competitively race their cars against each other m8e

>>28985438
and yet, someone found just that>>28984685 why can't you post something like this?

>>28985411
He's talking about race cars. And not at the cost of being able to turn fuckwit bumpkin

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>>28985364
>but the fastest factory foxes did not fucking break 15s quarter times I do not give a fuck what you say.
https://youtu.be/OcUqKFMCNi8?t=422
Skip to 7:02 if you're too lazy to copy paste a link.

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>>28984679
weird lying kike

>>28985634
so it's still slower than a foxbody>>28985574 lol

>>28985652
same driver same track m3 is faster
if you think a stock fox did 13s you're full of shit

>>28985669
>no way! it didn't happen!
Cope. I'm still waiting for someone to post a track where a production road going E30 beat a fox body anywhere>>28985442