/p/ — /gear/ thread

>>4513965 (OP)
>I got the new gear thread
Nice, what are the specs? HOw many posts can it handle?

>>4513965 (OP)
Micro four thirds is objectively bad unless you can snag a fairly modern olympus body like an em1ii or em5iii for less than $350 or a lesser mft body for $150 or less. The IQ is nearly phone tier. The autofocus is fuji tier. The lenses are mostly shit. If you are going to get scammed for 4 figures just get a shitty aps-c sony or a fuji… or better yet - an actual good camera with working autofocus and passable build quality like a sony a7c.

Mft exists for being cheap enough to be disposable. They mostly appeal to technology autists who miss the point of photography and enjoy gimmicks, menus and settings more than they care about the photographic end result and real photography beyond taking handheld photos of their anime doll collection.

>>4513999
checked and witnessed
M43 is dead, good riddance

Hasselblad sisters…
https://fstoppers.com/originals/hasselblad-h6d-100c-comparison-review-full-frame-out-performs-medium-format-191500
The phase one iq3 trichromatic users are laughing at us again

>>4513966
not a big fan of the colors of this gear thread too many darks

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>>4513966
I expect that it will have the same post capacity as previous threads. The post rate will be lower, but posts will have a wider and more intense range of quality.

>>4514026
When It's not my room, but I can think about bringing a flash

>>4514051
Did you want to see a super rare vintage lens worth around 6 thousand dollars?

>>4514052
no

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>>4514083
Okay. Here's roughly 12k in vintage lenses if you count the sneaky one in the back lol.
The crusty looking one on the right is a voigtlander petzval from their "golden age" of brass barrel lenses. The nikola perscheid is the rare and very expensive one. It combines spherical and chromatic aberration to produce a beautiful flou. A famous german photographer designed the lens to suit his style of portraiture. Still waiting on a machine shop to make a custom retaining ring for a sinar lens board so I can use it on my camera.

I have more expensive lenses if you want to see them. Ever seen a 210mm lens that has a 500mm projection?

>>4514090
>vintage funko pops
>probably used to photograph rocks, leaves, and the cat
so glad im a 5dII+50mm f1.8 thad. gearfaggotry is a mental disorder.

>>4514091
Portraiture actually, and obviously. :D

>>4514003
9 year old article.

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>>4514092
>the portraiture in question

>>4514117
its 9 years later and hasselblad is still jobbing
https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Hasselblad%20H6D-100c,Hasselblad%20X2D%20II-100c,Sony%20ILCE-7M5

>>4514134
>hasseltrannies spend $50k to be 0.4 stops ahead of a 30mp snoy/100mp fuji
>hasselblyat just rebadged the gfx100s instead of making a good medium format camera
kek

>>4514135
are there even decent hasselblad lenses?
dont tell me, i dont really care

>>4514136
not since they stopped using zeiss and started using fuji and nittoh japscrap glass

the 9yo article is effectively still current. phase uses rodenstock glass so 100% of lenses are actually good enough for a five figure camera instead of a ff tier “vintage character and retro soul” meme

Every time I have a day off its pissing down with rain. Anyway is a pentax a good rainy day camera?

>>4513999
>The autofocus is fuji tier
The newer phase detect cameras from OM have much better autofocus than Fuji.

>passable build quality like a sony a7c.
OM cameras have actual weather sealing.

Why are the gear threads always the same exact arguments over and over again?

>>4514154
>actually olympus is better than sony!
Despite petapixel among others literally taking money from olympus to shill footurdd and denigrate sony, the AP adopted Sony for their robust weather sealing especially. But when you sell more full frame cameras than canon, a dozen or so lemons is inevitable and a dozen more retards will break their shit and blame the camera, so I can see where some of the online bitching comes from.
>its better than fuji too!
Yeah, that’s why fuji outsold om five to one and om is essentially out of business.

Looking for a camera system to use as a video/photo hybrid. Mainly to capture my kids growing up, some traveling, family events. Should be at least 4k with some sort of stabilization. The more compact the better because I also have to cary around baby stuff and/or my kids. As perfect a Nikon Z8 or A7V would be I'm a bit afraid that they are not handy enough. Especially coupled with full frame glass. There are also those smallish A7CII, Nikon ZR, Sigma cameras. Or is it fine to go apsc and buy a small Fuji like that X-E5 with the Fujicron lenses?

>>4514162
the nikon zr, sigma bf, lumix s9, and canon r6v lack mechanical shutters, so any action or panning shots will distort. in video this is borderline irrelevant but photos get fucked up quick.

its just between the a7cii and xe5 really. perfect autofocus and image quality vs meh autofocus and blurry photos that look kinda like a phones. ironically they have the same number of small lenses (sony’s small lenses are mostly 3rd party, only fuji has small zooms) and the prices are pretty similar. sony is the choice camera of the AP and most other journalists, fuji is a tiktok trend. sony is getting a pocketable pancake lens very soon. fuji is getting better autofocus in 2 years maybe. /p/ despises both because together they put om system and lumix m4/3 out of business. choose wisely.

>>4514163
My last camera was the Pentax Q with a tiny sensor and I still enjoy looking at those photos. Somehow very nice rendering. So I'm not too worried about apsc. Since my main purpose is to capture memories it should be the camera that I bring always. Thanks for your recommendation, I try to check the A7CII in the store tomorrow and see how it handles.

>>4514161
>Despite petapixel among others literally taking money from olympus to shill footurdd and denigrate sony, the AP adopted Sony for their robust weather sealing especially.
What's IP rating do Sony's cameras have?

>Yeah, that’s why fuji outsold om five to one and om is essentially out of business.
High sales on mass market is a better indicator that a product is mediocre slop than it is exceptionally good. Normies are herd animals and don't make purchase decisions based on independent evaluation. Canon popular = Canon good in the normie brain. Do you think they actually sit down to research different camera brands and compare their strengths and weaknesses? Absolutely not, because that requires thinking, while the normie brain always wants to defer thinking to someone else.

>>4514167
The IP rating’s strict legalese translation is the IP rating is meaningless and actually worse than an internal company standard and good reputation. Hence sony is all the AP uses anymore and olympus is literally dead.
>to be fair, it takes a very high iq to pay $1000 for a MILC with a phone sensor. ask me about my elegantly implemented menu options.
Kek. This is a niche market populated almost entirely by professionals and serious enthusiasts. Sales don’t lie.

>>4514170
>Our weatherproofing is so good that we won't put it in writing that you can depend on it
loool

>This is a niche market populated almost entirely by professionals and serious enthusiasts
If that were true we would see a more even distribution between brands in camera sales because they aren't objectively that much better or worse than one another, as professional reviews show.

>Sales don’t lie.
Canon sells double what Sony does, no point bothering with Sony then...

>>4514171
An olympus IP rating is invalidated if you press a single button just once. Because the rating does not test that. Canon and Sony are in warzones without IP ratings. Olympus is dead.
>canon sells double sony
Not in FF. Their DX lineup is undeniably better… and literally the only one available in most stores. But sony is king in the full frame market. You don’t corner basically all of photojournalism and reduce canon to handing out free samples at the olympics by being bad at making cameras.

Being bad at making cameras causes innovation to halt and give way to lifestyle marketing. See: pentax and olympus.

>>4514171
Olympus warranties have never covered water damage.

>micro fool turds STILL seething at sony and fuji for making their entire sensor size obsolete outside of spy drone and android phone cameras
kek

just got my r6 mk ii a week ago and it's a hell of a difference between the t7i I've been using for years. I'm currently using the EF 24-70 ii with an adapter, but the next lens I'm aiming for is probably the rf 70-200 f/4 for landscape and nature photography. That way I have the best of both worlds with a lens for portaits/low light/general use, and another for travel/landscape/extra zoom and can fit it all in one small bag.

>>4514172
>An olympus IP rating is invalidated if you press a single button just once. Because the rating does not test that. Canon and Sony are in warzones without IP ratings. Olympus is dead.

do this with your sony:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BtUsPLx2dM

>>4514173
>Olympus warranties have never covered water damage.
IP53 is not a submersion rating.

>>4514179
>they paid for an official IP rating reeeee!
>still coping this hard for a failed camera brand
Kek fanboys are pathetic. I dont even use sony. I have a canon 5dii. I have used sony, and found it great. Bringing it up makes fanboys of failed brands seethe so of course, I can’t help but remind you, sony won :)
Keep being mad about it until you get over yourself and stop being emotionally invested in failed camera brands lol

>>4514179
>uh, the olympus broke so submersion is at fault
>Sir, I was just shooting in the rain
>gomen ip ratingu no covers shooting only static camera please see the warranty info itadakimasu

>>4514180
>Kek fanboys are pathetic. I dont even use sony. I have a canon 5dii. I have used sony, and found it great. Bringing it up makes fanboys of failed brands seethe so of course, I can’t help but remind you, sony won :)

You use obsolete DSLR so I guess you can relate to us OM System fanboys since mirrorless won.

>>4514148
depends. if you have a recent body like the k-1 or k-3 + a lens with weather sealing you should be alright. i've never let my gear get drenched but i've been in some light rain with it before.

>>4514186
Of course it did. It combined a dumbed down camcorder with a photography camera. Most professional photographers have to provide basic videography services or they make almost no money. No matter what any of us think of slop video or how stupid normies 8k hdr (on a 4k screen 20 feet away) placebo is, cameras are professional tools first and hobbies second, and if professionals can’t run profitable businesses we are all fucked and there would no longer be enough money in photography to support any innovations whatsoever or give us the benefits of an economy of scale.

>>4514148
I want to find a good rain cover but it seems like they're all the same quality as single use trash bags or something really retarded like a cover with no rear window to see the EVF/screen.

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>>4513965 (OP)
Reader, heed my warning.

You can currently buy a mint condition Nikkor 20mm f/4 AI pancake (there is no AI-S version of this lens) for basically nothing. They're rare, sharp, and super compact. One of the smallest lenses for F mount. I think they have been overlooked deerly, I think mostly because of the f/4 maximum aperture. There is no way they're going to stay as cheap as they are. All it will take is one semi popular tiktok zoomer to make a video about how 'bussin' and 'lowk slept on' it is, and prices will skyrocket. You know the kind of people hyping up F3's, FM2's, FM3a's love this sort of shit. Look at the 45mm f/2.8P AI-S. They're about triple what this lens is and the 45mm is a way less desirable focal length.

If you think you'll ever want one of these, buy one now.

>>4513999
>The IQ is nearly phone tier.
I wish this were true. I have a fairly new phone and its nowhere close. If you buy iPhone for example, you are locked into 'ProRAW' not actual RAW. My phone is something around 40mp in ProRAW, but that is upscaled. The actual sensor is a 12mp unit. You can use some apps to shoot true RAW, but the quality is horrible. The phone is designed to be used with the native, unconfigurable AI-enabled smoothing, denoising, sharpening. Take that away, and you are left with low resolution, noisy images, with high distortion and terrible edge sharpness. The only saving grace of the phone camera is that its a very small way to shoot ultrawide, my specific model has a 14mm (they call it 12mm but its more like 14) full frame equivalent focal length lens. If anyone cares, the app you can use to shoot true RAW on iPhone is called Unpro.

>>4514193
Intredasting. Canon and Pentax film era 20mm's are shaite though.

>>4514197
As far as I understand the f2.8 20mm's by Nikon are also quite average, this seems to be a bit of an exception. Especially considering stuff like the 45mm f2.8p and GN pancakes are optically quite bad and not very bright considering you can get an AI 55mm f1.2 for about half the price.

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>>4513965 (OP)
I don't want to waste a spot on the catalog with a tripod post so asking here: anyone use this and recommend it (or not)? I need something with a stronger head and taller. Don't wanna spend more than two-hundred dollary doos. Can get this one for $160. The amount of moving parts it has makes me wary of one of them getting weak and sagging over time but it is cheap, claims to hold 10kg and also detaches into a monopod. Recommendations accepted and wanted. Thanks very muchly, blessings be unto you and your family and ancestors forevermore and forever, amen.

>>4514217
>K&F
I hear some pretty rough things about their filters, so I don't expect their tripods to be much better. You'd be better off getting a Manfrotto or Benro instead of cheaping out.

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Thoughts on the SL3-S?

>>4514225
I think Leica are greedy as fuck.

>>4514218
thanks 4 input brah, much 'preciated

>>4514225
its exactly as good as any other mirrorless camera that costs a quarter

>>4514238
Is that so? What camera for 1300 bucks is exactly as good?

Next best thing would probably be the Nikon Z8 which costs 3200 but has a worse EVF, worse build quality and shitty UX. Or you take the Lumix S1R II for 3000 with worse ISO performance and again worse build quality.

>>4514239
look man if you think you're getting good value per performance out of a leica, go ahead and buy it. you're exactly the kind of customer they were hoping for.

>>4514239
>What camera for 1300 bucks is exactly as good?
Yes, taking his off-hand remark literally is sure to be the basis of a great, intelligent discussion... NOT!

>>4514241
>off-hand remark
Yeah that's why I added the two cameras that in my opinion come close, yet still not quite there

>>4514187
What about a k5 ii?

>>4514186
>the virgin using foolturds because you think its good based on specs and mental gymnastics and lies you believe about superior sony and fuji
>the chad using a dated full frame dslr because sensor size is simply the only thing that matters for tonality and the optical viewfinder is the last stand of photographic integrity

>>4514239
Stop being a fag and buy an eos r5