/pol/ — Large part of Western population became functionaly mentally challenged

AnonymousID:4aEEHNVY06/11/26(Thu)18:36:12No.536872372

Now logical thing to assume is that people in charge aren't that dumb.
But they seem to understand their population is completely dumbed down and brainwashed, or they simply wouldn't resort to such low-brow propaganda that contradicts itself every two weeks as it would bite them in the ass.

However the process seems to be complete, and ultimate irony is that all the information is within their grasp. There are no physical or IT obstacles. They can learn about reality and truth online. But they just don't do it. Talking to these people is like something straight out of Twilight Zone, they just blurt out slogans and can't deduce basic things.

''AI'' will probably make this shit even worse as they will become even dumber and more inept.

If EU and USA exist by 2050, it will be a miracle.

AnonymousID:4GdoeEQn06/11/26(Thu)18:43:36No.536872785

> Their government respected them enough to not try bullshit propaganda,

That’s simply incorect, but you’re right about the other stuff.
Boss thread OP, have a bump!

AnonymousID:8kcsuzD706/11/26(Thu)18:48:51No.536873088

what has russia gained from this so called special military opperation?

AnonymousID:K+9VZzH206/11/26(Thu)19:03:53No.536874033

>>536872048 (OP)
The way to cure yourself of being mindfucked by propaganda is to realize that all education, media, etc etc, down to most nominally private bloggers, youtubers etc, is owned by the state and speaks with a single voice, even if they're personally so heckin convinced that they are redpilled. Once you see clearly that it's all coming from the same source, it'll be intuitively obvious how retarded it is to listen to these people, similar to communist propaganda. Also it's actually a lot harder than you think to figure out what's really going on. There's a crazy number of barriers and interpretations that claim to be the real deal but are just more heckin valid redpilled nonsense. Consider the enormous number of normalfags convinced that "le billionaires and rich rightwingers" control everything, a la chomsky

AnonymousID:4aEEHNVY06/11/26(Thu)19:35:11No.536875872

>>536873088
Let’s reverse that: what has Russia LOST by this conflict?

AnonymousID:3p5UBbQW06/11/26(Thu)19:40:10No.536876203

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>>536872048 (OP)
just 5 more years and russia will win
also
>Monte-Negro
>Mountain-Nigger
:D:DD

AnonymousID:Xq7QGXlc06/11/26(Thu)19:46:40No.536876612

>>536875872
Their izzat, economy, European market and any chance of having a puppet regime in Kiev.

AnonymousID:4aEEHNVY06/11/26(Thu)19:47:26No.536876664

>>536876203
Answer this>>536875872
Why does it matter if they take 3 or 4 or 5 more years?
Where’s the actual pressure on them?
Their whole strategic approach to this war seems to be making the minimum required effort.
That’s why nothing happened. There was no “economic meltdown”. There was no “collapse”. Russian regime is more stable than it was in 2021.

This (basically making things worse) had direct cost of like one trillion dollars and rapid decline of Europe as whole as a relevant geopolitical actor.

AnonymousID:noI5BkU606/11/26(Thu)19:49:11No.536876774

>>536875872
According to trannies and mentally challenged female politicians, losing access to Spotify and Netflix was a decisive blow to Russia as a civilisation.

AnonymousID:6Gna3u2P06/11/26(Thu)19:49:55No.536876821

>>536872048 (OP)
Russia is losing by every measurable metric

AnonymousID:4aEEHNVY06/11/26(Thu)19:51:40No.536876932

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>>536876612
>economy
Are you sure?

AnonymousID:4aEEHNVY06/11/26(Thu)19:52:48No.536877016

>>536876821
Please name or show some of these metrics but make a serious attempt to not be horifically retarded and quote Ukrainian government.

AnonymousID:4aEEHNVY06/11/26(Thu)19:54:34No.536877132

By the way I love how you’re avoiding point about Iran, cause same people who claim Ukraine is winning now also claim USA won in Iran (like a dozen times so far).

AnonymousID:6Gna3u2P06/11/26(Thu)19:57:16No.536877293

>>536877016
Russian loses list:
>Approx. 1,378,820 personnel (includes killed, severely wounded, missing, and captured).
>12,010 tanks
>24,727 armored vehicles
>43,787 towed artillery pieces and self-propelled howitzers.
>1,859 rocket systems (such as BM-21 Grad and TOS-1A thermobaric launchers).
>1,416 systems (including highly advanced S-350, S-400, Tor, and Pantsir missile systems).
>1,628 unmanned ground vehicles.
>436 planes reported lost by Ukraine's MoD (including Su-34 fighter-bombers, Su-35 fighters, and rare A-50 airborne early warning and control aircraft).
>353 helicopters (including Ka-52 "Alligator" attack helicopters and Mi-8 transport variants).
>33 warships destroyed or permanently disabled.
>Over $300 billion in Russian Central Bank foreign currency assets frozen by Western and allied nations.
>An estimated 550,000 to 850,000 Russian citizens permanently fled the country following the 2022 invasion and subsequent mobilization waves, heavily impacting Russia's domestic technology and professional sectors.
>Permanent loss of the majority of the European natural gas and oil markets, alongside billions of dollars in damage to domestic oil refineries targeted by Ukrainian long-range drone strikes.
>ukraine will never be an russian ally again
>lost syria
>lost moldova
>Finland and Sweden in NATO
>Poland and Lithuania will host nuclear weapons
do you want more?

AnonymousID:6Gna3u2P06/11/26(Thu)19:59:39No.536877442

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Russian subhumans are poorer than Turks KEKKKK

AnonymousID:oBf0wXLv06/11/26(Thu)19:59:59No.536877465

Russia is stuck in a quagmire. Ukraine isn't going anywhere, even the USA stopping support didn't even cause a blip in Russian gains.

AnonymousID:QyY0ys7u06/11/26(Thu)20:02:14No.536877590

Imagine being a ruslim and your only "out" are the -stan countries or the worst shitholes in the fuckng balkans lmao. Have fun with the mountain-jeets, pidor.

AnonymousID:LnVhcmu106/11/26(Thu)20:02:29No.536877606

>>536875872
An increasingly large chunk of their population which was already in steep decline

AnonymousID:Xq7QGXlc06/11/26(Thu)20:02:47No.536877624

>>536876932
This position on the list is hardly something they can brag about. It won't get better now.

AnonymousID:18S9Yx1k06/11/26(Thu)20:04:23No.536877701

>>536875872
Finland and sweden joined NATO, they lost millions of dollars, several arms and ammo depots in russia have been blown up, tens of thousands of Russian young men are dead, overseas property has been seized, and they aren't seen as a strong threat anymore.
However they have gained 40000 sq miles of territory that are also heavily depopulated with bombed out infrastructure. Not sure its a good trade.

AnonymousID:4aEEHNVY06/11/26(Thu)20:05:15No.536877755

>>536877293
>make a serious attempt to not be horrifically retarded and quote Ukrainian government
Thanks for playing.
As for the rest of the list:
>Over $300 billion in Russian Central Bank foreign currency assets frozen by Western and allied nations.
Doesn't really mean shit, they absorbed that loss and they'll eventually recover that money.
>An estimated 550,000 to 850,000 Russian citizens permanently fled
Not really, most of them promptly returned. And they gained few million people in occupied Ukraine to make things funnier, plus even if we accept your number that's less than 1% of Russian population.
>Permanent loss of the majority of the European natural gas and oil markets
That seems to have crippled Europe instead while they simply reoriented towards selling somewhere else.
>ukraine will never be an russian ally again
Ukraine most probably won't exist in the near future judging how things are going.
>lost syria
Oh no. To make things even funnier they still own bases there.
>lost moldova
When did they HAVE Moldova?
>Finland and Sweden in NATO
Not the mighty Finland and Sweden! They totally weren't US vassal states prior to 2022!
>Poland and Lithuania will host nuclear weapons
...and?

Seriously this is what I'm talking about, you people are completely imbecilic. Imagine invoking FINLAND in a talk about major geopolitical conflict.
>Finland is in NATO now
>this is a crippling blow to Russia because REASONS
Your IQ can't be over 80.

AnonymousID:JKvwt32C06/11/26(Thu)20:07:25No.536877867

>>536872048 (OP)
Oh, have they taken Kiev? I stopped paying attention years ago but GG if so

AnonymousID:4aEEHNVY06/11/26(Thu)20:08:53No.536877942

>>536877701
>>536877606
What ''increasingly large chunk''?
They have like 200-250 thousand KIA so far according to one of the few serious (propaganda) assessments of their loses.

20000 people die in car accidents yearly in Russia. It's a 150 million country.

Things you talk about mean absolutely nothing on NATIONAL level. None of the shit this Pole wrote is relevant either.

So far, in a decade of geopolitical confrontation facing almost entire Western world, Russians lost virtually nothing they can't easily replace in near future or haven't replaced already.

In 2022 I expected their living standards would plummet or that their economy would face serious issues, even that hasn't transpired.

AnonymousID:6Gna3u2P06/11/26(Thu)20:10:32No.536878045

>>536877755
Finland can bomb russian nuclear submarine feel from it's territory in 15 minutes

your cope is cute
>YEAR 5 OF RUSSIA BEING STUCK IN DONBASS
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

AnonymousID:4aEEHNVY06/11/26(Thu)20:10:59No.536878069

And to make things even funnier (concerning loses), like half of their casualties are prisoners, mercenaries, or ethnic minorities.

AnonymousID:4aEEHNVY06/11/26(Thu)20:12:36No.536878158

>>536878045
>Finland can bomb russian nuclear submarine feel from it's territory in 15 minutes
And they couldn't have done that in 2021?
I'm not even gonna bother with the mechanics of ''Finland bombing russian nuclear submarine fleet'' as you're clearly too retarded to delve into complex topics.

AnonymousID:f72T7TtQ06/11/26(Thu)20:14:03No.536878262

>>536872048 (OP)
tru

AnonymousID:6Gna3u2P06/11/26(Thu)20:15:06No.536878338

>>536878158
are you just retarded or pretending why aren't you on the front line but in montenegro ivan?

AnonymousID:4aEEHNVY06/11/26(Thu)20:16:46No.536878419

>>536878338
You talk like a nigger baboon. You just blurt out pure shit with no meaning.
Thanks for making my point ITT.

AnonymousID:6Gna3u2P06/11/26(Thu)20:18:44No.536878528

>>536878419
>Year 5 of russians being in donbass
you shilling for russia will just become even funniest every single day

AnonymousID:18S9Yx1k06/11/26(Thu)20:21:15No.536878680

>>536877942
>250k losses mean nothing
This type of logic is why third world countries are poor after wars. Every man you lose in a war is a factory worker, a farmer, a young man is the primary driver of labor production.
The USA lost 60k men in vietnam and was considered a major loss of life and future potential, and here you are saying Russia has lost 4 times that amount and its not a big deal. And they've lost their lived for bombed out ruins. Its not a gain to kill off hundreds of thousands of young men for bombed out ruins.

AnonymousID:4aEEHNVY06/11/26(Thu)20:21:33No.536878695

>>536878528
>Year 5 of russians being in donbass
And?

AnonymousID:6Gna3u2P06/11/26(Thu)20:23:20No.536878791

>>536878695
>And?
and russians are losing and you will never be a woman

AnonymousID:4aEEHNVY06/11/26(Thu)20:24:30No.536878861

>>536878680
Are you seriously incapable of understanding the scale we're talking about here?
250K KIA is simply nothing for a 150 million country.
They literally GAINED significantly more people during this war.

Yes, in absolute terms it's a loss, but it's simply not some crippling, long-term loss. They're waging a high-stakes proxy war with enormous implications.

AnonymousID:Xq7QGXlc06/11/26(Thu)20:24:35No.536878867

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>>536878695
Nothing at all. Great job, lol

AnonymousID:4aEEHNVY06/11/26(Thu)20:25:29No.536878914

>>536878791
>you will never be a woman
You however ARE a woman, mentally. You talk like a woman and you reason like a woman.

AnonymousID:4aEEHNVY06/11/26(Thu)20:27:43No.536879065

>>536878867
Why does it matter if they win in the end?
Imagine Ukraine collapses in a year or two and they just occupy whatever they want.
>haha it took you 5/6 years to defeat this 40 million proxy on which we spent 1 trillion dollars
>this doesn't count as victory!
No one cares.
That's the point of my thread, you're functionally mentally deficient. You can't grasp reality anymore on a very basic level.

AnonymousID:f72T7TtQ06/11/26(Thu)20:29:08No.536879152

>>536879065
How much longer do you see the war going on for?

AnonymousID:2N93mGQT06/11/26(Thu)20:29:13No.536879158

>>536877701
>Finland and sweden joined NATO
How is that good for Finland or Sweden? Abandoning neutrality to join the anti-Russia alliance just makes them a target. Has hosting US bases helped the Gulf states? No, it got them bombed, because the US can't do shit to protect them even if it wanted to. Countries realizing this is part of the reason the US is going to be asked to leave Taiwan and South Korea, and potentially Japan, depending on how hard you continue to fuck them over with this Iran war.

AnonymousID:6Gna3u2P06/11/26(Thu)20:29:46No.536879195

>>536879065
>ukraine will collapse soon...
lol what a cope 2 more weeks

AnonymousID:4aEEHNVY06/11/26(Thu)20:33:48No.536879410

And big part of this whole schizo narrative is how there's always implication that Ukraine is somehow irrelevant (despite all the resources pooled into it and their effort) and that beyond Ukraine Russians face REAL obstacles...but that's just ridiculous bullshit.

Besides Poland and maybe Romania, conditionally speaking, there's not a single state in modern Europe that could realistically sustain a full-blown conventional conflict of this or bigger scale for more than a few weeks.

Even fucking Poland is a joke.
To give you an illustration at the start of this war Ukraine had like 300-400 S-300s, shitload of other high-end late-Soviet gear, basically largest arsenal in Europe by far, as well as huge pool of trained personnel.

Poland has 2 batteries of Patriot and like 50 SA-3's from 1960's when it comes to air defenses. And this is one of the more serious European armies.

AnonymousID:uMCTyKVF06/11/26(Thu)20:37:11No.536879600

>>536879410
I agree with you OP, but how much longer do you see this war continuing for?

AnonymousID:6Gna3u2P06/11/26(Thu)20:38:15No.536879667

>>536879410
Poland has Europe's most advanced Air Defense system that's being build out Polsih AD compared to russian air defense russsians is a JOKE

AnonymousID:4aEEHNVY06/11/26(Thu)20:38:46No.536879700

>>536879152
I won't be making any predictions as my predictions were wrong in the past, we simply don't know many details, and I can't predict what sort of effort will Russians mount (will they increase or remain at the same level).

But one thing is certain: Ukraine will lose the same way EVERY SINGLE country lost in a war of attrition - very suddenly and very violently. Eventually they'll just collapse and collapse rapidly and Russians will just literally drive forward and occupy whatever they want.

This is inevitable scenario as in real life, even in the most optimistic for them/pessimistic for Russians analysis (talking about somewhat realistic analysis, not ridiculous propaganda), their losses are about equal.

Problem is Russia is a 150 million country, and Ukraine has like 21-22 million people left. All they can do at this point is just bleed to death.

AnonymousID:uMCTyKVF06/11/26(Thu)20:40:13No.536879790

>>536879700
So will Russia take more or will Putin cuck out after Donbass?

AnonymousID:4aEEHNVY06/11/26(Thu)20:41:34No.536879870

>>536879667
>Poland has Europe's most advanced Air Defense system
Poland has AI-powered railguns that fire nanotech shells that disintegrate vatniks on quantum level!

But no, in real life, Poland has two batteries of Patriots (with no ammo coming in the future as USA spent much of their reserves and active stock and must retain what they have), and like 50 SA-3 units.
Everything else are MANPADs and small amount of short range mobile systems.

AnonymousID:uMCTyKVF06/11/26(Thu)20:41:35No.536879873

>>536879667
AD systems mean nothing in modern war.

AnonymousID:xN47GwLc06/11/26(Thu)20:42:26No.536879925

>>536879065
European countries have bigger problems than how much money they pour into Ukraine. Why do Russians even care about European finances and fiscal policy? Russia was the one that attacked Ukraine in the first place anyways, so they only got themselves to blame. And investing money in Ukraine seems like a good deal - it weakens Russia as a military power and in power projection, pisses Russians off, lowers the chances of starting shit elsewhere (like with Russian minority in the Baltics for example). Most of the dead or soon to be dead Russians are shitty consumers and bad potencial foreign workforce for European businesses, so their deaths don't really affect European economies due to loss of consumers anyway. Russians managed to permanently and strongly damage the Ukrainian demographics, and if Ukrainians are willing and capable to bring as many Russians as they can down with them, provided Europe sends them some money and old equipment, while using Ukrainian experience and new expertize in defense sector to improve our of defense and defense sector, why the fuck not?

AnonymousID:Xq7QGXlc06/11/26(Thu)20:43:45No.536879994

>>536879065
>Imagine Ukraine collapses in a year or two and they just occupy whatever they want
Sunken cost fallacy

AnonymousID:6Gna3u2P06/11/26(Thu)20:45:03No.536880069

>>536879870
the cope is real
russia can't even protect it's refineries

AnonymousID:18S9Yx1k06/11/26(Thu)20:45:07No.536880072

>>536879410
>russia will win because it has 150 million people and ukraine only has 20 million
>europe is pathetically weak with only 650 million people with no way to best russias 150 million people
Ok
>>536879158
Do the other NATO member not exist?

AnonymousID:4aEEHNVY06/11/26(Thu)20:45:25No.536880097

>>536879790
Putin will never ''cuck out'' as Putin isn't Stalin and there's other people making decisions there too who won't allow that. Like their military, their security apparatus, and Russian population for that matter. Not even Stalin could singularly make decisions on a whim by the way.

Russians aren't waging a war of numbers and PR. Their goal from the start is elimination of Ukraine as a viable entity, aimed at them. They will achieve this goal, one way or another, as they feel it's existential issue for them.

Their secondary goal is of course weakening NATO/American Empire, and pushing it away from their borders.

AnonymousID:1yLT2Fmr06/11/26(Thu)20:46:55No.536880211

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>>536872048 (OP)
AAAAAAAAHHHHHH !!!!
SHILL SHILL KREMLIN BOT YOU ARE A KREMLIN BOT !
PUTINS ASSASSINS WILL KILL US ALL
AAAAAAAAAAAAHH !!!! I CAN HEAR RUSSIAN PARATROOPERS COMING DOWN TO MURDER RAPE ME
SALO UKRAINIYIV !!!

AnonymousID:1PEIf60A06/11/26(Thu)20:47:15No.536880235

>>536872048 (OP)
>anxious pidor noises
it seems things are going well

AnonymousID:b5P82Tag06/11/26(Thu)20:47:28No.536880247

>>536872048 (OP)
white males are the problem. They are the root problem of everything. Every white male needs to go to ukraine or israel either by force or by volunteering, preferably by force

AnonymousID:xN47GwLc06/11/26(Thu)20:48:02No.536880284

>>536879873
>Modern war
So in that case, you mean never? Germany and Britain had strong air defenses and they still got bombed heavily during ww2, Serbs in 1999. had all air defense Yugoslavia had, and they were hopeless against the airstrikes, same with Iraq in 91 and 2003...

AnonymousID:2N93mGQT06/11/26(Thu)20:48:11No.536880294

>>536879667
>Poland has Europe's most advanced Air Defense system
I bet you actually believe this too
Polish (and European) AD is predicated on the pinky promise that US will one day deliver the batteries and interceptors they paid for but can't for the next couple of years because they all need to be sent to Israel.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-officials-tell-european-countries-expect-weapons-delivery-delays-sources-say-2026-04-16/
AND you're competing with the Ukrainians who also don't have any interceptors.
https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-volodymyr-zelenskyy-pleads-with-us-donald-trump-for-patriots-to-fight-russian-bombardment/
Even if they waved a magic wand and delivered on all their promises, the US only produces ~600 interceptors a year, which is enough to defend against 12 hour's worth of drones (and this is according to Ukrainian drone experts like Serhii Beskrestnov), assuming a 100% interception rate which they absolutely do not have. And then you have all the missiles.

AnonymousID:ILXLHcNa06/11/26(Thu)20:48:59No.536880343

>>536872048 (OP)
Reading, writing, and being able to preserve such things were for the relatively well-off, it's possible that your average bumpkin coped the same way westerners do, but they didn't have a platform unlike now. And while information is widely available today, there's a ton of false information to sift through, including echochambers. But otherwise, you're probably right, westerners lack any degree of nuance or critical thinking once their biases are confirmed. There's also a lot of people who simply believe anything is true if they believe it is. People have had their IQ raped from pollution, lack of social stimulation or spirituality, information overload, etc. so you get the modern western population, full of hopeless retards.

AnonymousID:gr2jIEyj06/11/26(Thu)20:49:17No.536880362

>>536872048 (OP)
You are now aware the purpose of propaganda is not to inform but to demoralize. And this demoralization isn't meant for the enemy, but for the domestic population. Being told obvious lies and forced to accept them is the quickest way to make the population apathetic so they don't overthrow you.