/r9k/ — If you want a girl to be a lady and mother you need to actually treat her like one

>>84797369 (OP)
actually true, good post. i agree with you, and with that said, if she betrays you despite your best effort that shit can suck my balls

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>>84797380
Wym? If you make someone dependent on you and treat them horribly ofc they'd want to leave or betray you if given the chance. Even in their male led religions men are supposed to sacrifice and endure pain, women just have a few days pain and sacrifice when theyre giving birth and aren't expected to toil the fields like men.

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>>84797603
>you hate/love women
>you hate/love men
I have empathy for almost all people unless youre literally so demonic that you cant even say you believe in Jesus or so evil that you'd grape kill and eat babies.

>>84797603
>women just have a few days pain and sacrifice when theyre giving birth
You know nothing about pregnancy. Pregnancy is hell through and through, pretty much the entire time. It's not a "few days." Plenty of women lose their teeth or break their bones due to having another human inside of them, using their resources. Sometimes women are ripped from pussy to asshole. Sometimes they have to be cut open, while awake, to have the child extracted from them.
Pregnancy and the hormones can also fuck up your body forever, both in terms of attractiveness and debilitating physical symptoms.
Plus, periods every month, because that is part of their reproductive system. They spend ~1/4 to 1/5 of their pre-menopause life bleeding out of their genitalia and shedding flesh from an internal organ.
Taking care of a child alone is also very difficult. "It takes a village" and most don't have that. Most dads get a break when they leave work, women work all day as housewives.
Planning and preparation for cooking, and cooking, itself, is work. Taking care of the house is work.
Women are expected to do these for a man, to work, without gaining the independence that men get from work.
Men suffer, yes, and tend to have to do physical labor more often, but you're grossly undershooting women's labor in this dynamic, as well.

>>84797603
No. im talking about giving them your world she cheats/leaves/withholds information from you and leaves, despite my best and utmost.

that can eat my ass

>>84797369 (OP)
yeah, I wanted to do that. I fucking hate you now.

>>84797709
No because I've never been preggo, hate smex, but I do have periods though. They're not painful for me though just kinda tiring. Ik, my mom told me what happened to her during her pregnancies and during and after birth and I watched her take care of my little sibling. Back in the day if something went super wrong you just died, you didn't have to endure permanent injury or long recovery. Though I guess now they have pain killing drugs so its not too terrible. Most men have to toil and their body can get permanetly injured, unless theyre in small class that can use their brain mostly for work. There's surrogacy now though so even rich women dont have to deal with pregnancy. I don't know who has it better or worse, just that complaining won't do much and no matter what system we have for men and women it should be one where it actually works and doesn't collapse society because theyre so unhappy.
>>84797720
>talking about giving them your world she cheats/leaves/withholds information from you and leaves, despite my best and utmost
Understandable, as long as she actually agreed to get with you out of own free will and no outside influences.
>>84797724
Idk who you are but at some point after enduring enough hardship and pain you can't become a nurturing loving docile person... thats why kind loving virgins are so sought after in a harsh world.

>>84797857
>Most men have to toil and their body can get permanetly injured
Pregnancy in the US have higher mortality rate than policemen in duty or construction workers. The most dangerous male jobs are still less dangerous than pregnancy. More women have died in childbirth through the history than men have died in wars.

No. The problem is men haven't changed at all. Women have, women are literally just men now. So. That's the main issue. So it's up to women to revert back to their nature.

Well the main issue in the world right now is porn and feminism, without those two things there'd be a lot more happiness.

>>84797884
If old or infertile women were strong as men they would send them off to die in wars too kek. I was talking about worldwide, where most men have to do physically demanding jobs and don't have as good healthcare. But again theres no point in arguing about who has it worse, you can understand everyone's struggles and not go suffering Olympics mode.
>>84797910
>No. The problem is men haven't changed at all
Men go through puberty and thats it they don't change as much as women, why would their mindset change over the millenia.
>So it's up to women to revert back to their nature.
They would probably be fine doing so if they were treated decently, being born with a womb means youre supposed to have children so society can be populated, and being born with a pp means you're supposed to do the other stuff in society. Men cant give birth, but women can do non physically demanding men's roles. And no, making bag wombs tech will never work properly and if it does it will have massive consequences that will quickly destroy society and theyll just go back to women's wombs. You cant have only creation or only destruction in society.
>Well the main issue in the world right now is porn and feminism, without those two things there'd be a lot more happiness.
Kek the d@vil literally exploited women's suffering under men to ruin societies, multiple times, it doesn't even matter morally, it just is. Africans are matriarchal and theyre underdeveloped and have tons of issues. And effective materiarchal socities always have male minded women in charge. Indians are patriarchal but they do demon worship and treat their women badly and have made their country into a trash pile. Muh patriarchy muh matriarchy, no matter which it actually has to be effective and not make people miserable enough to want to let society crumble. Why not embrace utilitarism tempered with empathy?

>>84798049
And if male minded women are the only effective female leaders in the world that just proves the male spirit is meant to lead in the current world. Unless the whole universe was peaceful then female minded leadership would never work.

>>84798049
>If old or infertile women were strong as men they would send them off to die in wars too kek
That's besides the point. The point is, that pregnancy and childbirth are inherently more dangerous than anything a man can do.

>>84798107
With modern advancements you can make it go either way for who has it better or worse, if they cared to do better birth care then women would have the better deal. Not like it matters, when the original women birth and care and men toil and fight was basically equal since in base civilizations as a man you were almost guaranteed to go to war or get a work injury.

>>84797857
>Idk who you are but at some point after enduring enough hardship and pain you can't become a nurturing loving docile person... thats why kind loving virgins are so sought after in a harsh world.
you mean to say I am ruined forever? I am fucking tired of being alone.

>>84798163
>you were almost guaranteed to go to war or get a work injury.
Not at all. Quite a small percent of men are fit for joining military at any given time. And that is since conscription became a thing anyways. Historically war was primarily high class thing. You needed to be rich to join, have extra iron for weapons. And work injuries really became big only with modern tech, what injuries are you getting from ploughing the fields? Farmer housing wasn't even high enough for significant falls.

>>84798192
Not ruined forever maybe, we have Dr's for the body nowadays, but not Dr's for the mind/soul yet unless you count the creator God I guess. Psychologist Dr's for the soul/mind clearly don't work for most people other than stuff like adhd meds or helping to stabilize after a bad event. You'd probably need someone like Jesus to heal the soul. We'd still need to deal with all the things that aren't meant to be here though.

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>>84798049
>making bag wombs tech will never work properly and if it does it will have massive consequences that will quickly destroy society and theyll just go back to women's wombs
BAAHAHAHA... seeing women cope and get worried in real time.

Bio females know, they are literally washed chopped and cooked. Fem droid sex bots are replacing you all, so I don't care about anything you have to say. You'll be begging for my cock once the fem droids come out. "Please, I'll do anything! Let me just be your humble cum slave, please choose me over the fem droid." You get what you deserve for abandoning your role in the first place.

>>84798233
For most of history unfit for duty men just died in early age. Farmers were also expected to defend their towns if military couldn't come on time or if they were short, almost all men were taught how to fight at an early age.
>what injuries are you getting from ploughing the fields
Kek if that was your livelihood you basically became disabled at 50-60 and then had to switch to stuff like weaving or teaching or etc. Constant physical exercise on a diet of gruel and veg is not possible long term. Its even rare for hunter gatherers who always eat meat, to live till old age even if their quarry isn't very dangerous and they don't get major injuries. Unless they just have great DNA naturally.

>>84798049
>treated decently
Where are you even getting this idea women aren't treated decently.
It's just nonsense. Women are treated nicer than ever before. Besides it doesn't matter how you're treated, just follow your husband and do what he says, end of story. If you don't want to, oh well, you'll be replaced by another willing pussy.

>>84798306
>just try to completely go against God's will and destroy half of creation
Yeah bro it will have consequences what do you think. We made asbestos and thought it was great only for it to turn out to be terrible. Sooner or later the errors will start to show and if you went full extermination mode you won't be able to undo it. And women never abandoned their roles as birthers, if they did everyone would be dead by now due to all women ripping out their wombs and ovaries.

>>84798347
Treated decently like not beat or verbally terrorized, protected and not made unhappy enough that they hurt themselves or others or just lay down and give up. I dont mean this modern "treat women nicely" where they can do whatever they want like aborting their husbands babies because they want extra money for a boobjob or being sluts or not doing their duty of giving birth or chopping their tits off and pretending theyre men or other demonic things.
>follow your husband and do what he says, end of story. If you don't want to, oh well, you'll be replaced by another willing pussy.
No point to that if youre constantly beat terrorized or hes a bad leader. At that point only the most masochistic and desperate women would breed, what would that do to society?

>>84798363
Fem droids are God's punishment on women for abandoning their nature.
You WILL be replaced.

>>84798430
Keep coping chud God didn't make two genders for no reason.

>>84797369 (OP)
holy shit this images beautiful

>>84798422
>waaaah men are just abusers, if I get a husband he'll just beat me! And have sex with me at anytime, which is RAPE!
The imaginary world you live in is your own downfall. No one is beating you. Go get a husband and stop whining.

>>84798439
I genuinely hope I see it, even if I'm 90 years old. The day women march on the street like the loud feminist angry lunatics they are "No more femdroids! They are taking our jobs! DEY TOOK ER JOOOBS! No one goes to bio fem onlyfans anymore! No man will DATE me anymore! Stop the fem droids!"

And sadly actually, I think men are so pathetic they'll ban fem droids. So sad. And things will just get worse. We are rapidly revolving all because half the earth's population refuses to wear a cooking apron and stop being whores.

>>84798452
No thats dumb I dont have that mindset. Id be willing to do my role and marry and have children if the dude didn't literally do shit like lie about who he was to trick me to marry him, or want sex without marriage, or constantly yell at or beat me or make me miserable enough not to want to live, or try to force me to conform to demonic things. Thats like the most basic of expectations I don't think I'm abandoning my role for wanting those very very basic things in a partner. My dad yelled at and terrorized me to do things until I lost all ability to take initiative, my first bf lied completely about who he was and spiritually hurt me, and stranger dudes hurt me too. I dont really give a shit if you think me being cautious of men and not wanting to love them is stupid. I'd do my role but I wouldn't love him, if thats triggering then idk.
>>84798464
You cant replace half of humanity and expect it to go OK, God made 2 genders for a reason.

>>84798275
yeah, this is just some bullshit. I am not mean, I am not rude, people tend to not dislike me.
I am fucking tired of being passed on, I am tired or hating myself and I fucking hate being alone all the time.

>>84798537
If people stopped being dumbasses and understood we have to defeat s@tan and dem@ns we could literally very easily get rid of most of pointless suffering like that. Would you want a world full of suffering and death or a decent world? Answer is obvious.

>>84798525
>my bf
Well that's the problem. You had a boyfriend. "boyfriends" are a modern concept. If someone is willing to be your boyfriend then they are not committed to you.
Stop whining like a baby on 4chan and go find a man with a home and belong to him. It takes a week a most for you to be happy in a man's home.
No one cares if you love your husband or not. Men could not care less. They want your physical body for comfort, that's what your body is made for. Women are the ones who are obsessed with receiving "love" from their husband. Men enjoy having a female in general and can enjoy her at any time because he's in charge anyway.

If you were serious, you'd just approach a non-married boy in the church and ask if he wants to take you in assuming he has an apartment. And even if he doesn't, if you offer to belong to him, he'll do the work to get a home right away. That's what women do is encourage men to be accomplish things.
So I would do that. Right now, go do it, what are you waiting for.

It's hilarious that everyone in my church who is married is just married. They don't spend all day on r9k complaining about the opposite sex. They just get married. And everything is fine and they're married for life. It's truly amazing how normal people operate.

>>84798611
I only got a bf because that was what was expected in this modern society and I didn't know why you should wait till marriage. I hated it and just broke up with him in the end. Its not like I'm a slut that willingly went around sleeping with tons of Chads.
>If you were serious, you'd just approach a non-married boy in the church and ask if he wants to take you in assuming he has an apartment.
If I knew for sure he wasn't some weirdo trying to force his way into my life by proximity who was lying about who he was, sure. As it stands I would literally prefer to leave the country or kill every man that tries to fu@k or marry me or kms or rip out my womb and ovaries because death is preferable to getting with a man thats demonic.
>Right now, go do it, what are you waiting for.
Yeah bro just signal to everyone that youre super desperate and encourage the predators to prey on you.

>>84798626
I would be married and have a normal life if I was a normal person. As it stands I would rather kms that let some demonic dude use my body.

>>84798676
>Even the non-married boys in church might be rapists! I can't risk it!
Then stay unmarried and become an old cat lady spinster posting about how men need to change on r9k.

>>84798702
No, having a normal life is easy. There's unique rare circumstances where you can't just do that, like being a literal princess or being surrounded by enemies.

>>84798682
That's fine. Women do the same thing, I made a mistake getting with a woman who was just a succubus that defiled me. If you're not lucky you won't get a partner.
Because society requires you to be lucky in order to have a partner properly now, or go through the secular worthless "Dating".
Whereas before you could just ask a father for for his daughter and then everyone would be happy. But now everyone is too shy and stupid and independent and full of ideas.

So definitely I'd give up on having a partner if you're not lucky already and aren't a normal person.