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Being financially dependent on the women in your life is actually W faps and highly goated
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Anonymous06/02/26(Tue)13:18:06
>>16992596 How does one reach this nirvana? Just like.. get fired and fail to find a replacement job? And then spend increasingly large amounts of time getting into fringe conspiracy theories online while my life crumbles and my kids worry for the unknown future and whether I'll be around in a few years?
>>16992618 How do I be yourself, do you have any top tips. I don't want to work any more. Shit sucks balls, from the perspective of the ball sucker. Not fun, but it pays the bills. I'd rather the wife paid them. She don't have money or a job though. What do?
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Anonymous06/02/26(Tue)15:36:45
>>16992634 Basically I just got me a down bitch and let her know what's up.
retard EEfag, I got 2 C+'s, a D+ (in a proofs course, shouldn't have taken it) and an F this semester but I got an internship at hidden gem company that designs custom electronic filters, am I fucked next year when I start applying for jobs?
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Anonymous06/02/26(Tue)18:33:10
>>16992729 Man you wouldn't even know the first thing about it. Get to stepping fool.
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Anonymous06/02/26(Tue)19:16:31
>>16992803 you are doing well practical experience >> grades. You can have perfect grade and no one will hire you without job experience. Happened to me.
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Anonymous06/02/26(Tue)21:20:41
>>16992514 I'm assuming you're talking careers outside academia. Postdocs do not count for career progression. Working in a real job counts for career progression. Startup counts, just your job title may not translate directly when applying to bigger companies. Your job title can be senior executive science god, does not mean that is the level you will be hired or paid at in a big company.
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Anonymous06/02/26(Tue)23:20:20
God damnit all.
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Anonymous06/03/26(Wed)05:53:32
I am an aerospace engineering major and I want to become an astronaut
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Anonymous06/03/26(Wed)09:56:45
I just want some money in my pocket, a job I can tell people I work without immediately feeling shame and to go on holiday a few times a year. Is that too much to ask after all I've been through?
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Anonymous06/03/26(Wed)12:54:01
I got my masters from Loyola in flair bartending and eating pussy
>>16993212 You sound like the kind of straight shooter who should run a trillion dollar aeronautical company
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Anonymous06/03/26(Wed)16:03:09
>>16993296 Every department which follows the laws of physics is the physics department. Any which don't follow the laws of physics need to be investigated for crimes against causality.
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Anonymous06/03/26(Wed)20:43:52
For anyone still conteplating a career in maths: >Leiden Declaration on Artificial Intelligence and Mathematics https://leidendeclaration.ai/ >Technological developments have repeatedly transformed the practice of mathematics. Recent artificial intelligence technologies, including symbolic and neural methods for the generation and formalization of mathematics, may already have initiated a significant chapter in this long history. Among researchers, artificial intelligence has produced a wide range of reactions: enthusiasm for its potential to yield new discoveries; intimidation by the pace of developments; indifference to these rapid changes; and concern for the implications, both for mathematics and in wider society.
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Anonymous06/03/26(Wed)21:21:42
>>16993448 >luddite scientists crazy times we are living in
>create a linkedin account since apparently that's mandatory these days >5 minutes into browsing and I already feel like murdering someone is this really what "job searching" is like these days?
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Anonymous06/04/26(Thu)10:07:58
>>16993704 You are not supposed to actually look at the content. Just message people.
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Anonymous06/04/26(Thu)10:11:25
>>16993706 I get that, and that's what pisses me off I just want to get a goddamn job, not talk to people
I'm a X looking for Y. Do you have any openings? Thanks.
It is literally their job to find you a job.
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Anonymous06/04/26(Thu)11:45:15
>>16992282(OP) >still wake up in a panic that I've missed some assignment or slept through class >still have trouble sleeping ecause i have a strong feeling I've forgotten to do some homework or readings
Do you guys use AI to write your cover letter? I have been trying but it can't get the subtle differences right and it always sounds convoluted. Worst of all I have slowly adapted that way of writing as well now. I do hope the hiring department at the department doesnt notice or skips it.
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Anonymous06/04/26(Thu)15:28:45
>>16993757 What kind of reddit normie are you? Being a student is bliss compared to your average office job
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Anonymous06/04/26(Thu)15:30:37
I miss being a student and only having to worry about exams right as they're coming up, and just fucking about drinking with my roommates for 4 years.
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Anonymous06/04/26(Thu)17:27:24
>>16993937 I'm a 90 IQ retard that neets monotony and stability, I'm tired of half assing exams and wondering if I'm good enough
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Anonymous06/04/26(Thu)18:07:07
>>16994030 >I'm tired of half assing exams and wondering if I'm good enough I never understood this. Are you working in fast food. How can work tasks be less stressful than some exam with clearly defined curriculum?
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Anonymous06/04/26(Thu)18:15:19
>>16993937 I have a job with a fair amount of stress, responsibility and deadlines.
It's still much less stressful for me than exams and university was. Maybe a personality thing or growing up. Used to get all bent out of shape for exams, now the whole enterprise can burn down with everyone inside it and I don't really care.
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Anonymous06/04/26(Thu)18:18:16
>>16993704 I just deactivated my LinkedIn a little while after I got a job. Can resurrect it if jobseeking again. Or not, nobody cares.
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Anonymous06/04/26(Thu)18:31:02
>>16994049 Yeah, it might be a maturity thing. Have you taken any courses/exam as an adult? I have and it is really not that stressful.
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Anonymous06/04/26(Thu)21:48:38
>>16994059 >Have you taken any courses/exam as an adult? I was 24 at the time of my last exam. Shat bricks. But that was 8 years ago and definitely got less neurotic since then.
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Anonymous06/05/26(Fri)09:51:13
Nobody wants to hire a buck wild homothug to help train their LLMs they just want him for Sisyphean "research projects". Give that down low G some stock grants!
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Anonymous06/05/26(Fri)16:55:23
>>16992852 Don't places ask for your transcript before you even get an interview thoughever
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Anonymous06/05/26(Fri)18:03:51
>>16994620 generally speaking once you've got a couple YOE no one will ever bother to check your university credentials. if you can suck dick into your first job and hold it down for a bit it won't matter.
transcripts are used to downsample the 500 jeets who apply to every entry level job
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Anonymous06/05/26(Fri)18:06:41
>>16993937 you never have to do anything hard at work unless you go out of your way to seek out challenges. in uni you will probably have to work hard at least a few times if you want decent grades
most people aren't working 9-9-6 at a startup
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Anonymous06/05/26(Fri)19:46:22
>>16994408 >help train their LLMs is this an actual career path or a pump and dump scheme?
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Anonymous06/05/26(Fri)20:13:09
>>16994620 who cares you design electronic filters the one rule in this field has always been practical experience >>> degree. Plenty of master/phd graduates that don't know how to crank something or fear hands on stuff.
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Anonymous06/05/26(Fri)21:07:38
>>16994049 Same for me. Could also be a question of upbringing. I believe a good chunk of university students come from families that hammer down the >get that degree or you'll end up sweeping streets whole life mantra since preschool along with >you failed the exam? I told you to study more and not $FUN_ACTIVITY, idiot! Lazy bastard! Who the hell did I raise?
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Anonymous06/05/26(Fri)21:15:12
>>16994030 >90 IQ Can't be real. I bet everyone ITT is at least 110... right?
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Anonymous06/05/26(Fri)21:35:46
>>16994744 why would you think that? consider that this is the general where the bottom of the barrel end up. the typical 4chan user is an L5 staff engineer at FAGMAN while we here are the losers who can't even find a job and therefore had to stay in school for 4-6 more years to keep our parents off our case
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Anonymous06/05/26(Fri)21:53:55
>>16994750 >stay in school for 4-6 more years to keep our parents off our case lmao this is the only reason I even went to college in the first place
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Anonymous06/05/26(Fri)22:42:06
>>16994736 Well I'm an orphan and nobody really gave two shits about my education. Did the job equivalent of street sweeping for a year before university so that part was clear enough. Just naturally neurotic, would not have been in university otherwise from this position.
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Anonymous06/06/26(Sat)04:41:22
>>16994758 yeah, me too. thought society would collapse into race war but didn't have anything better to do. then got my engineering degree and couldn't find a job, enrolled in a master's. then the lab I did my thesis at offered me a job, couldn't find anything better, ended up getting a PhD because what else are you gonna do
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Anonymous06/06/26(Sat)05:05:16
>>16994744 You have an inflated sense of IQ, most people are retarded. Having an IQ of 160 is basically nonexistent and most normgroids after getting shuffeled into their designated wageslavery won't know anyone with an IQ over 130. Even undergraduate students today are hardly selected to be over 100. Hell your average PhD student is proabably 110-115 (unless you're in a top program)
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Anonymous06/06/26(Sat)06:29:05
>>16994709 I don't know but it's the only thing I have any real work experience in.
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Anonymous06/06/26(Sat)06:43:42
>>16994709 Our favorite mathematician/dog groomer seems to survive on this.
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Anonymous06/06/26(Sat)08:35:00
>>16994921 I have a tested IQ of ~130 from job applications to Swedish military intelligence. I have a math PhD from a lower-tier Swedish technical university. I currently work as an engineer at a Swedish defense contractor, making $62k/year.
There is no way most math/physics PhDs are 110-115.
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Anonymous06/06/26(Sat)10:13:12
>>16994968 >>16994921 I think the hyperfocusing on IQ is a juvenile midset and people really overestimate its importance. It's necessary but not sufficient. Getting things done requires qualities besides the raw brain power. Solving puzzles is just one aspect of almost any job. Especially once you get into "real" jobs and not just research in pure mathematics.
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Anonymous06/06/26(Sat)10:18:31
>>16995013 You are right. However, I don't think the claim that most PhD students are 110-115 is correct.
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Anonymous06/06/26(Sat)11:31:47
>>16994968 >IQ of ~130 >PhD in math >$62k KEK absolute state Why not move to the US and bag x5 that after tax?
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Anonymous06/06/26(Sat)11:50:21
>>16995060 Would love to. I struggled a lot in my latest job search. A math phd is not really a good degree for employment.