I assume this is about the rafting theory? Back then, that stretch was ~900 miles across, so about 3 times the length of Lake Superior today. Not a trivial voyage by any means. But far from insurmountable. Also, vegetation rafts can get big. Like really big. "The Great Raft" in Louisiana quite literally shaped the surrounding ecosystem before we removed it to ease commerce along the Mississippi River. Don't imagine a loose mass of vegetation. Imagine a gargantuan floating island with its own ecosystem.
Seems reasonable. Most South American mammals have closer genetic cousins to Africa than North America.
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Anonymous06/08/26(Mon)08:06:35
>>16994105(OP) My understanding that 500 years ago when the humans arrived they bred with the rats and there and created the monkeys we see today.
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Anonymous06/09/26(Tue)10:24:53
Didn't people used to go on voyages and bring animals back for zoo's and stuff. There are no wild monkeys in the UK that I am aware of but plenty of Zoo's that have them.
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Anonymous06/09/26(Tue)15:23:34
>>16996599 Yeah but that didn't happen 35 million years ago, according to (((science)))
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Anonymous06/09/26(Tue)16:17:58
The real answer prolly lies in the basement of the Vatican.
What the fuck even is primate evolution? >Earliest primates evolve in Asia, raft to Africa which is an island at the time >Ancestor of lemurs raft to Madagascar >Ancestor of New World Monkeys sail across the fucking Atlantic Ocean to colonize South America >Ancestor of apes travels back to Asia >Ancestor of African apes travels back to Africa again
I assume there was some sort of treaty of tordesillas where the lemurs got Madagascar while the monkeys got South America
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)15:28:05
>>16995955 What about this is wrong to you? It all checks out.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)15:30:10
>>16995958 The interesting thing is that South America and Africa obviously fit together like puzzle pieces. The real question gets raised then about when exactly they separated and who all existed at the time that they did. That's the hard query to answer. The facts suggest that it wasn't that long ago, or the beings existing are much older than we think they are.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)15:32:35
>>16997121 The rafting hypotheses assume the nonexistence of land-bridges, which are in my opinion more credible than grounded animals crossing long stretches of water.
The Sahara and Grand Canyon, for example, are said to not have always been deserts.
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Anonymous06/12/26(Fri)09:03:52
>>16998253 It's not like these people are closed-mindedly ignoring the possibility of a land bridge. Marsupials more than likely migrated to Australia from South America via Antarctica. Whe find marsupial fossils in Antarctica today. You know what we don't find? Primates. Because primates did not exist when this land bridge existed.
>>16994105(OP) I may be an idiot myself but hear me out. Is there any group of scientists trying to actively mold some group of non human primates into becoming smarter? Instead of the detached and non interventionist approach. Idk maybe by breeding the smarter ones or giving them more calorie dense foods or teaching them how to manipulate fire or make tools? >But why would anyone do that? Idk see what happens
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Anonymous06/12/26(Fri)18:49:14
>>16999007 Uplifting is considered dangerous and unethical for some reason.
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Anonymous06/12/26(Fri)18:52:47
>>16999213 You don't want pests like animals or the homeless starting too think they're people too. Treat em mean, keep em keen. No sobbers for the weak.
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Anonymous06/14/26(Sun)13:56:38
Why does (((science))) consider it more likely that literal monkeys went on a sailing trip across the atlantic than that a lost society of humans (who have been anatomically modern for 2 million years) has meddled with natural processes?
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Anonymous06/14/26(Sun)17:48:49
wtf lmao. Why couldn't they just go through the bering strait like the other apes (humans)? I'm sure it was walkable more than once in the past
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Anonymous06/14/26(Sun)22:26:00
>>17000491 Africa and South America were both islands at the time so they’d have to raft either way. And there are no monkeys in North America.
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)01:20:27
>>17000637 >monkeys can raft across oceans but can't cross the land bridge from SA to NA Riiiight.... <.<
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)06:56:17
>>16996599 Yes and they also seeded everywhere they went with pigs and other livestock so if they ever had to emergency land on an island they passed, hopefully there would be wild pigs and other familiar livestock to hunt.
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)06:58:12
>>17000727 Its almost like riding a chunk of jungle that fell into the water during a storm is easier than walking thousands of miles through deserts and mountains.
>>17000727 Are you saying that you think they did it on purpose, like some adventuring monkey appealed to the monkey king of spain who paid for a monkey raft and monkey expedition to get monkey spices on the other side of the world without realizing there was a monkey new world in the way, rather than just a bunch of monkeys getting swept to sea when their habitat fell into the water and made its way into the ocean?
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Anonymous06/15/26(Mon)07:17:16
>>17000803 After the monkey pope granted all land east of africa to the lemurs the monkey king was forced to fund expeditions to the west