/sci/ — infinite free electricity generator

weak bait
2/10

Is your goal to make us explain every day things to you while mocking us for believing they both exist and function?

you do know the motor works harder and uses more fuel right?

so far theres been no explanation. i used ai but all it says is the magnet moves the electrons out of the copper wire into the power cable and that charges your phone. that sounds like jewish magic bull shit to me. energy cant be created or destroyed, so where is this electricity coming from?

>>16997679
I don't care if this is bait. The generator is hooked up to the motor, people can't be this stupid

>>16997648 (OP)
Yeah basically. But its not free energy; the more load applied to the electrical system the more rotational energy is needed to spin the alternator. Try it yourself, apply a high-current load like an inverter powering a heat gun to the electrical system at idle and you'll hear the engine bog down.

>>16997685
ok so where do the electrons come from? the copper wire? what if the copper wire runs out of electrons? oh it cant run out of electrons? so my arm would just get tired spinning this alternator? thats supposed to be the limiting factor here? not the fact that electricity is just pulled out of thin air? into this copper wire coil? and into my phone's battery? you see how this doesnt make any sense at all? is this static electricity or something? like what the fuck are "electrons"? little electricity dots floating around atoms? ok and what if these copper wires run out of those? how does it just charge infinity batteries?

>>16997689
It doesn't run out because elctrons aren't fuel that dissapear when used.But they need the "push" that sends them through the wires wich the magnet provides.

>>16997703
batteries run out of electricity so it basically is fuel that runs out and is lost because it turns into mechanical energy or whatever you are using the battery to power

>>16997705
Thats not how batteries work. They don't run out. They are oppositly loaded.

which makes me wonder how these copper wires act as conduits channelling electricity out of free air and all you have to do is use the right lode stone (rare earth magnet) moving in the correct ritual method

>>16997706
that is 100% how batteries work. you hook a battery up with a wire on the negative and a wire on the positive and bring them close together and they arc. then if you dont want it to arc you can just plug that in to something like another battery and then that electricity goes into that other battery. this whole "oppositely loaded" is some jewish brain control psyop confusion therapy they teach people in schools

>>16997708
>yes but you moving it requires what?

and electricity is fuel you can make a car run on electricity so ? like what if the battery runs out of electricity to make the car go? oh i know ill just spin this magnet around inside this copper wire coil contraption that actually isnt a jewish black magic energy conduit requiring rare forms of elemental earth to be ritualistically moved around each other?

>>16997709
maybe if you listened to your teacher i wouldn't have to explain it to you

>>16997710
how does movement get converted into energy? oh right they are "moving" "electrons" into the battery but not actually because uhhhhhhh

>>16997712
yes and no, you have to MOVE the magnet get it now?

>>16997715
ok so the magnet gets moved, moves the electrons, and puts those electrons into my battery. oops but not actually, the electrons just move the chemicals inside my battery. then when i plug my battery into another battery, my battery chemicals uhhhhhh move the electrons in the power cable to uhhhh move the chemicals in the other battery so that the battery percentage reads 100% and so when you plug a wire into the positive and a wire into the negative those chemicals move the electrons around inside the uhhhh power cables and that can arc? so what if you just did this over and over? wouldnt the power cable run out of electrons?

like if you kept recharging a battery and like shocking some pieces of paper and lose that electricity, where does that electricity come from? these are electrons? that are causing the shock to the pieces of paper?

so the wire is a conduit? are the electrons /electricity coming from inside the battery?

>>16997718
The chemicals don't move, again they are oppositly loaded. If the copper wire were t.o run out of electrons it would literally disappear

>>16997720
No, first of the power for the generator doesn't come fro the battery it comes from the motor.

>>16997721
so then where does this arcing come from?

>>16997722
the motor generates electricity? what device does that? and by what mechanical function?

>>16997723
A battery uses chemicals to pile up extra electrons on one side and remove electrons from the other side. This creates an imbalance. If you connect a wire between them, electrons flow from the side with too many electrons to the side with too few until the battery runs down.

>>16997725
THe motor creates movement, kynetic energy wich the alternator uses to create electricity.

>>16997650
>>16997651
Yes, that's all /sci/ now, people pretending not to understand basic 5th grade science. Prob bots since this board is so dead.

>>16997727
do the electrons leave the battery? what if i touched the wire? do the electrons leave that wire and travel into me? or is that just heat energy?
>>16997728
and how does the alternator generate electricity? bonus electricity because you completed the jewish rare earth magic ritual? im doing my best to "understand" it but there are so many blatantly obvious holes in the "scientific" explanation for it that im beginning to suspect its actually some long held jewish psyop that has become ingrained in our society and we all just dont bother questioning it because of how convenient it is

>>16997738
yes, electrons leave one battery terminal and enter the wire. If your body becomes part of the circuit, electrons can flow through your body too. The alternator makes electricity via movement of the magnet.

This dude is entropy personified. His adjacency to intelligence is either breathtakingly real, or an obvious act. In either case it's a waste of to time talking to him.

>>16997747
i see the inconsistencies

>>16997742
the magnet in the alternator moves the electrons in the copper wire coils which creates electronic momentum in the wires and thats what you feel when you touch the live wire. got it. now that "electronic momentum" gets "stored" inside a battery in the form of negative being on one side and positive being on the other. got it. and the battery expending "electricity" is actually just the battery creating "electronic momentum" within the wires from its polarity differences in the battery. got it. so what about the lightning coming off of the wire? so an alternating current isnt actually electricity, its potential energy in the form of electricity. so none of these electrons are ever lost? what if they go into a ground? like what if you hooked the alternator up to a ground and spun it? the electrons try to go into the ground right? and do they? and then you unground the alternator and then do those electrons you moved into the ground do they stay there?

>>16997684
So what you're saying is, the motor transfers the energy to the generator which uses magnets to move the electrons to us?? Why not just skip the generator if the motor is doing all the work?

>>16997689
>what if the copper wire runs out of electrons?
Electricity moves in circuits, electrons move in a loop, so they don't run out. Imagine if you had a loop of pipe full of water, and a water wheel attached to hand crank. You spin the waterwheel and the water moves, moving energy through the system. The water doesn't run out because it is going in a loop and not exiting the system. The water is just the medium for the energy supplied by the hand crank/water wheel. Same shit for an alternator, or any other electric generator, it's taking the energy supplied by an exterior force and translating it into electrical force. Electrons are just part of the medium that carries that energy.

>>16997775
actually, electrons don't move to the ground, they come from the ground

>>16997727
>until the battery runs down.
by this, this anon meant "until it reaches equilibrium"

game!! i love this type of learning!!

>>16997648 (OP)
There are no magnets in an alternator. Nor an automotive generator.. the coil is energised and iron fingers spin around in the flux lines. The commutator split the negs and pos and rectify it to DC with diodes.

>>16997679
>energy cant be created or destroyed,
Nothing you have said indicates that any energy is being destroyed or created. You said a magnet moves through an electrical field and stimulates the electrons to move in response, so you have only talked about reactions causing equal and opposite reactions.

>>16997708
Which makes me certain you have never bothered studying Maxwell's equations or the basic properties of electromagnetism, so you just skipped all the AI's references to those things that you don't understand or the AI knows you well enough to talk to you like a 3rd grader.

>>16997714
>oh right they are "moving" "electrons" into the battery
No, they are using fuel from the motor to mechanically moving the magnets that make the electrons flow through the electrical circuit.

>>16998039
The motor is doing all the mechanical work, if you want the energy in the form of electricity instead of just physical spinning, you need to convert the mechanical work to electromagnetic energy with an electrical generator.

>>16997713
anon is right thats how ac motors work