/tg/ — Delta Green - General Thread

Some friends who have never played a ttrpg in their life want me to run Delta Green for them. I'm thinking I will go with Music From A Darkened Room.

>What's your favorite Agent death story?
Game from several years ago. Our team was being chased out of a farm by a demon. The rest of them escaped to the car, but I stayed behind to set the building on fire. It exploded, and as I was running to the car I got hit in the back of the head with a brick, slammed into the back of the car, and died. But because of the explosion, the mission was a success.

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AI slop for Convergence

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Any good fan blogs or whatever for the system?

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>>98162366
federalagentmakebelieve and feefifofin and associated blogs.
Unfortunately a lot of the active old heads, the guys that actually write stuff up and make it playable for others, are moving on to other systems as they sate their DG appetite and the community fills up with zoomers trying to be 2 cool 4 5e.

>>98152037 (OP)
What Delta green dreamlands content exists?

>>98171130
There's a short story in Alien Intelligences that has some Dreamland/ghoul stuff. I the conspiracies main interaction with DL was during the ghoul civil war thing in New York.

>>98171130
Honestly, Dreamlands and DG aren't a good fit.

So Lovecraft loved to write. Everybody goes on about how he invented cosmic existentialistic horror, but overlook the fact that Cthulhu was defeated by two guys hitting him with a boat. Then you have assorted little jokes in his Mythos stories ("Gilman" in Innsmouth, the camp of Herbert West, or making fun of himself in "The Hound"), all of which

But while he was writing that sort of stuff, he also wrote a lot of just straight up fantasy with his Dreamlands stuff. Were there connections between the two settings? Absolutely. Were they tonally similar? Yes, but only because he didn't take his cosmic horror as seriously as people like to think.

But Delta Green is "the grim darkness of the present day", and the escape of the Dreamlands kind of runs counter to that.

>>98181240
>but overlook the fact that Cthulhu was defeated by two guys hitting him with a boat
No he wasn't, why do you people keep parroting this meme?

>>98181240
>I'm an ignorant fool who gets all my info from memes, here's my two cents!

Why do people who have no interest in actually reading the source material feel the need to parrot third hand opinions they saw on an infographic with a iFunny watermark? It's a fucking mystery.

>>98181339
NTA, but... he was. he rises from R'lyeh after thousands of years, gets hit by a boat, then goes back into R'lyeh and shuts the door behind him.

>>98181674
He goes back to R'yleh because the stars weren't right and the city started sinking once more. This is explicitly stated in the story. The boat did nothing.

>>98181771
>He goes back to R'yleh because the stars weren't right and the city started sinking once more. This is explicitly stated in the story.
no it isn't.
The story explicitly states the opposite, in fact.

Cthulhu rises:
>The Thing of the idols, the green, sticky spawn of the stars, had awaked to claim his own. The stars were right again, and what an age-old cult had failed to do by design, a band of innocent sailors had done by accident. After vigintillions of years great Cthulhu was loose again, and ravening for delight.

Then, Cthulhu gets hit in the head by a yacht. His head explodes, and although he survives, the yacht and its passengers escape with no sign of chase.

Later, the protagonist speculates about Cthulhu's fate:
>Cthulhu still lives, too, I suppose, again in that chasm of stone which has shielded him since the sun was young. His accursed city is sunken once more, for the Vigilant sailed over the spot after the April storm; but his ministers on earth still bellow and prance and slay around idol-capped monoliths in lonely places. He must have been trapped by the sinking whilst within his black abyss, or else the world would by now be screaming with fright and frenzy. Who knows the end?
that's it. Cthulhu, preceded by months of nightmares felt all around the world, canonically rises at the confluence of the stars, gets hit in the head by a fucking steamship, and then goes back to sleep. That's what the text in the story describes.

>>98181857
Do you lack reading comprehension?
>For an instant the ship was befouled by an acrid and blinding green cloud, and then there was only a venomous seething astern; where—God in heaven!—the scattered plasticity of that nameless sky-spawn was nebulously recombining in its hateful original form, whilst its distance widened every second as the Alert gained impetus from its mounting steam.
>That was all. After that Johansen only brooded over the idol in the cabin and attended to a few matters of food for himself and the laughing maniac by his side. He did not try to navigate after the first bold flight, for the reaction had taken something out of his soul. Then came the storm of April 2nd, and a gathering of the clouds about his consciousness. There is a sense of spectral whirling through liquid gulfs of infinity, of dizzying rides through reeling universes on a comet’s tail, and of hysterical plunges from the pit to the moon and from the moon back again to the pit, all livened by a cachinnating chorus of the distorted, hilarious elder gods and the green, bat-winged mocking imps of Tartarus.
Keyword being there, on April 2nd, which was explicitly after the boat rammed into him. The boat did not make Cthulhu go back to sleep, not only did he almost instantly regenerate, but the city sinking happened way after the ramming itself.

>>98181857
Also, there's no way to even know if the thing they hit was actually Cthulhu. That's just the assumption the narrator makes, there's no way for him, or us, to actually know

>>98181873
Timeline:
>Previous year: Artists and architects grow mad from nightmares which foretell the rising of R'lyeh
>March 22: The stars are right for Cthulhu's return
>March 22: Cthulhu walks out his front door to bring about the apocalypse
>March 22: Cthulhu gets hit in the head by a boat
>[Time passes with no developments]
>April 2: A great storm occurs and the nightmares end
>April 2: The yacht passes over the same point and finds nothing but open ocean
>Later: The protagonist speculates that Cthulu went home

All we know is that Cthulhu rose to wreak havoc in fulfillment of prophecy, then got hit in the head, and then went back to sleep. It stands to reason that he probably cried in front of his bathroom mirror while holding an icepack against his forehead in the late hours of March 22.

>>98181944
So you agree you're entirely basing it on the assumption that the boat was the thing that caused the sinking of the city, and there is literally not stated anywhere in the book that that is the case?

>>98181944
>the stars were briefly right
>only a small part of the city rises to the surface(this is confirmed in the book)
>cthulhu(or possibly one of the star spawn) chases the Vigilant but they manage to escape
>the stars stop being right and the city sinks
But somehow the boat did it. Sure.

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>>98181967
>*sniff* the stars weren't, like, correct and stuff. It had nothing to do with getting hit in the head. It didn't even hurt. I'm FINE. The stupid city just rose too soon.

Cthulhu probably spent a week and a half reading some history books after getting smacked, and pulled the lever to send R'lyeh back down as soon as he found out about torpedoes. C'thulhu is a fucking jobber.

>>98181981
What is the point of this argument?

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>>98181981
HFYfags are so fucking exhausting

>>98181989
That's the exact same kind of shit that happens in Delta Green, which is what this thread is about. Nerd bitch

>>98182000
Delta Green is explicitly about the end of the world, retard. Humanity is destined to lose in DG, and Cthulhu is actually a top contender for "who's gonna do it"

>>98182006
well hopefully his alarm clock is set right this time

Cthulhu doesn't actually want to kill us althougheverbeit. Cthulhu only wants to spread the Gospel of the Outer Gods across the Universe, for he is their Prophet. Will this destroy human SOCIETY, sure, but humanity will survive, in a truer state, more closely aligned with the true powers of the Cosmos.

>>98171130
Dennis wrote a campaign called Sense of the Sleight of Hand Man for Call of Cthulhu that basically gives the Arc Dream take on the Dreamlands. It is set in the 20's though

>>98182025
He is also working on a new scenario about the Dreamlands and I think the ghoul city from CAS's Charnel God. So there's that

>>98182685
Cool we'll probably see that in 2032, it'll be a 600 page hardback and essentially unplayable.

Starting up a small Delta Green campaign soon any good resources or tips for the scenarios
the final equation and observer effect

>>98186510
Look at the top link.

>>98152037 (OP)
Millenium came out (PDF only) Hardback in october (december)
So when can we expect it on the trove

>>98190427
When someone shares a copy with me, or I find it from my usual sources.

>>98181240
I used it a bit in my games
my take it : don't change anything, make it wild and fantasy and dreamy and throw your agent in there in the most weird and violent way. and when they wake up to the grey concrete horror, it will feel even worse so they get addicted to the dreamland
i also lower their sanity in secret between games

>>98186510
That youtuber Princedabsalot covered Observer Effect decently