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>>98183302 (OP)
>How do you keep your spirits up in the World/Chronicles of Darkness
Honestly? Not that hard unless you are like, a Wraith or Promethean. (And perhaps Lost Changeling since you are basically an abuse survivor)

>>98183641
There's basically no game where the character you're playing has any reason to be happy about their state of being or the state of the world that they live in.

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>>98183302 (OP)
fellow magechuds....
how would i get a gaia's most racist red talon bf who calls me human slurs as he refills my quintessence with his gnosis

>>98183689
Do a parasite cleanse. It'll get rid of your unnatural orientation

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>>98183661
Why?
(Your statement is already false since basically all the splats allows you to play the bad guy that certainly doesn't mind the state of the world. Be it as a Fomori, Nephandi, Baali, Black Spiral Dancer, most Sabbat etc.)

>>98183808
>Why?
Name a game in WoD or CofD in which your average supernatural of that game (who isn't a bat-shit insane antagonist) is likely to be happy and positive about their state of being and the state of the world.

>>98183788
what paradigm would using ivermectin fall under?technocracy? euthanatos?

>>98183689
>be verbena (preferably already female to save on quint)
>transform into female wolf in heat
>go into the woods
>????
>profit

>>98183689
By going on a vacation on M.E.C.H.A, trust.

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>>98183820
Mage?
There are certainly enough orgies, private worlds and stuff to do that even in a hot Ascension War scenario they are certainly in a way better state than most of us here in RL.

Even more depressing splats can have happy and positive characters too. Like Nuwisha in WTA where they have Humor as a stat and mostly believe the world is a joke by Coyote.

What does the New Moon do to garou?
Eclipses?

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>TQ
Vices.

>>98184018
Woofs born in a new moon become ragabash

Those born under an eclipse are ahroun (same as full moon)

>>98184018
I believe it also increases difficulties to frenzy, though that might just be me extrapolating since the full moon instead reduces difficulties to frenzy.

>>98183984
Honestly, it's a matter of opinion whether these activities as lifting your spirits, or distracting yourself from the awfulness of the outside world. Every mage possesses far stronger beliefs than the majority of humanity, in a world that has been tricked into being hostile to those beliefs. They might be able to drown themselves in magical cocaine in another dimension, but the actual world is a really depressing place for most of them to live in.

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What clan and sect would you suggest for a history professor turned OSS agent who was embraced after his time as an OSS agent come Halloween 1945? He has the following attributes for V20:

Physical is tertiary, with strength, dexterity, and stamina at 2. Social is secondary, with 1 in charisma, 4 in manipulation, 3 in appearance. Mental is primary, with 3 perception, 4 intelligence, and 3 wits.

Looks like an older Andrew Graves as a bonus.

>>98183661
>Average Syndicate manager making fat stacks while his 10/10 bodyguard HIT mark is riding his dick.
Bro, your mages?

>>98184105
Setite or Lasombra..

>>98184147
Mage is a game that relies heavily on imagination. Most anons are too autistic to imagine themselves in anything other than a miserable situation.

>>98184148

I considered Tremere for Camarilla, since a Southerner who was a history professor and OSS spy probably feels at home with the Warlocks. Lasombra I'm mixed about, as you have to be an extra amount of asshole to be one. Ventrue Anti is an option, but he's not a frontline fighter like the Crusaders probably want. Definitely doesn't love money enough for the mainline Ventrue.

>>98184172
>Lasombra I'm mixed about, as you have to be an extra amount of asshole to be one.
Not at all, you only need to be a specoal kind of asshole to be Sabbat Lasombra. Lasombra Antitribu can be whatever you want them to be.

>>98183821
Outside of on-label treatment for parasites?

Brainwashed mortals.

>>98183302 (OP)
What's the point of playing fucking Mage?
>Want to set fire to some shit: LE PARADOX!
>Want to revive someone: LE PARADOX!
>Want to build a shack with magick: LE PARADOX!
>Want to mind control someone to have sex: LE PARADOX!
>Scratch your balls-: LE PARADOX!

Meanwhile wolves and vamps just appear out of nowhere and slash someone in two with their motherfucking powers. This sucks.

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>>98184391
if you have such a issue with paradox just go marauder

>>98184391
Pictured: an hermetic “mage” has realized the folly of his choice and wants out

>>98184207

Zoom classes would be a nightmare for a Lasombra. With Tremere, I just need to hide the funny occult books.

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Were there any bona fide vampires in pre-contact America?
Or just a bunch of temu werewolves (forma de jaguar)

>>98184391
Lmao, just embrace the scientific paradigm.

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>>98184391
You need to play in games where the ST has suckled upon the Satyros cock and davebenis for wisdom, anon, and then you will finally experience Mage the Way It Was Meant To Be ST'd.

>>98184784
there been but some of them still managed to be european somehow Menele and Nergal (going by Huitzilopochtli) being example

but there was also a cappadocian bloodline (pisanob), gangrel, the tlacique and the drowned legacies these however only came in at the tall end of v20 in bjd and never got fleshed out

Menele and his brujah also kept to the native tribes of north america so in south and middle america you mostly had baali,(from negral) cappadocians and tlacique who all claimed to be priests of different gods and wandering gangrel

beside that and fera you also had two unqiue dynasties mummies one from mexico and one from south america, both banes and earthbounds and at least one unqiue shadowlands afterlife ruled by quetzalcoatl

no idea about fae. ctd is not my cup of tea

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>>98184162
>Mage is a game that relies heavily on imagination. Most anons are too autistic to imagine themselves in anything other than a miserable situation.
Guilty as charged, every time I make a character with a life that doesn't suck I feel weirdly indulgent. Mage is just of those games where it is very easy to make your character the shittiest kind of OC

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furry mpreg is canon in cofd lmfao

does this top rudi in woketardation?

>>98184949
Are there gender bender werewolf powers?

What's a good source of info on SchreckNet?
And is it something that someone could hack into (with a high enough Computer ability, maybe?) or does it have some kind of Obfuscate or Blood Thaumaturgy protection?

>>98184391
Just use coincidental magic

>>98184719
Lasombra have Dominate so if you get Dominate 5 you could always use a ghoul or blood doll as your zoom "avatar"

>>98184953
>Are there gender bender werewolf powers?
In Forsaken? yeah.
Apocalypse blocked that type of stuff because it poked too many question on how the Furies would handle it and how it would interact with the breeding rules.
On paper Luna's Embrace would be a level 1 metis gift or a level 3 fetish at most.

>>98184910
Appreciate the knowledge, friend

How do ordinary martial arts maneuvers, the Do of the Akashic Brotherhood (but for Mortals only, not anything you need to be Awakened for) and the different Qiao of the Shih compare with each other? Anything you'd particularly recommend picking up or NOT picking up for a "mortal martial artist" Hunter concept?

>>98183661
>vampire
>ahhhh my humanity ahhhhh i must drink blood before i lose control ahhh
>werewolf
>ahhhh gaia is dying because my ancestors were himbo retards but i must raaaage
>mage
>hehe chimiage with p̶o̶k̶e̶m̶a̶n̶s̶ spirits frens with trans-gauntlet abilities to avoid paradox goes brrrrrrrrrr

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>>98184784
Lasombra Revised speculates about them having original bloodlines.

How do bonuses that multiply or divide a value stack?

Let's say I have something that allows me to complete a Crafts project in a third of the time (I think there was a changeling birthright like that, so it should be a decent example). If I then get from elsewhere something that allows me to cut Craft time in half, what would happen?

Would the bonuses stack multiplicatively for a 1/6 modifier? Or would they stack additively for a 1/5 modifier?

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>>98185047
Qiao are the best option, its absolutely fantastic by mortal/Numina standards. A well-built Shih can stick his hand through a Garou's chest. Mo Kung, Feng, and Shi are especially recommended if you want to be a kung fu master whose purely 'human'. Ideally you'll want Mo Kung, Feng, and Shi plus Martial Arts or Do maxed out to 5.

>>98185099
A garou? They're *that* strong?

Tbh I was a little worried that it might not worth the bang for the buck, the kind of thing that looks cool on paper but in practice you are spending a lot of resources while getting less successes than you thought you would

Thanks a lot for the info. Do you have any other advice?

>>98185198
>A garou? They're *that* strong?
nta but especially if they have their toj stuff then Shih can reach some exalted level... for a short time while burning out even worse than usual. like a imbued with 5th dot edges but turned up to eleven

and they aren't bad even without that and have nice themes of vengence (a lot fo shih travel to avenge their former mentor's death at the hand of a splat) and humanity going further than should be possible with pure willpower. people just don't care about them because they are the hunter counterpart to kuei jin and most of the time also tend to hang around Asia only

but i put on one the red list before and he certainly did his job in that chronicle

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>>98185198
Can doesn't mean its easy. But yes, a high-end Shih can absolutely fubar stuff like vampire Ancilla and Fera of middling rank if he gets the jump on them. Their kung fu is the best you'll find on an 'ordinary' human.

>>98185047
Speaking of martial arts, are there ways to knock out people with violence other than filling all health levels with bashing damage?

Thinking of situations like sneaking up on a guard that hasn't seen you and knocking them out before they can cry out an alarm, or punching out a violent untrained civilian.

>>98185218
ToJ Shih get huge Chi pools that don't cost them health, so they don't burn out at all. They're basically demi-Solars. No perfects, persistents, or any of that stuff but you can rush 300 MPH and kick through a steel beam so you know. Bitching.

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>>98182683
Well this should be useful as a frame of reference for what the stats are like at high levels even if half of it sounds mummy only.

>>98185288
All of that is Mummy only. The Mummy book clarifies that while Methusaleh can achieve similiar results through their Disciplines, high Attribute bonuses are a Mummy only thing.

>>98185288
that's mummy only because hekau only works on stat boosts and they don't have counterparts to physical disciplines or rage and forms and such so they need something extra

even mage who buy superman stats as a merit or sorcerer's who use alchemy in very much the same way (especially the ossiran and isis cultists) don't get those

>>98185290
>>98185388
Fair enough.

>>98184147
My fault for assuming that you're playing a default character belonging to one of the protagonist factions, rather than a self-centered antagonist.

Appearance as a stat being taken out is one change i don't blame any of the later versions for doing

if they bring back the sabbat do you guys think they will try to walk back the whole lasombra join the camarilla plotline?

>>98184391
Realise that in all editions, even the dreaded Revised, Paradox is only a significant issue if you botch. /wodg/ likes to blow negative consequences like Paradox out of proportion and pretend that you'll get turned inside out for blasting someone with a fireball in front of a Sleeper, but that's just not going to happen. Nine times out of ten, even if you botch, there's likely not going to be any consequences other than a migraine and some soakable bashing damage for your character.

>>98185232
One interaction I'm curious about is how numina react to each other.

Tale Shih Training and True Faith(Inquisitor version) for example. If a shih has true faith, does that mean their chi pools get expanded to match their superhuman virtues(6-10)?
What abput Mana and Chi? Does a mana score give Shih a pool of chi to draw from other than their literal blood(Chi pool and Blood pool are the same thing, a shih with 1 chi left would only give 1 bp if drained by a cainite.)
The demon hunter X book itself points out that these overlaps can happen. The Shih's most legendary wartior was both a Shih and a Sorcerer.

I feel like ypu could combine the disparate human numina and create what amounts to a Solar Exalted in WoD(though much weaker).

>>98184391
I've only read mtsc, to my casual understanding Scourge doesn't seem like that big of a deal unless storyteller is an ass+you're asking for it+you roll poorly+you cast in the wrong neighborhood
it might also decide to give you a handjob instead

>>98185468
I do wonder what Mage games would look like if Paradox was a significantly greater threat.