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>TQ
Malarion model is in this picture

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>>98205157 (OP)
>tq
I wholeheartedly believe the new idoneth incarnate was supposed to be a generic ghur incarnate in 3rd edition, as part of a trio with the Krondspine and the also scrapped spider incarnate from the rumour engine.
The spider incarnate would've represented Gallet, the idoneth incarnate Andtor (a craggy coastal landscape, as seen on the map), in the same way that the Krondspine represents Thondia. All three are the major regions of the primary continent of the Ghurish Heartlands.
Of course the whole incarnate thing got thrown into disarray because 3rd edition was a fucking mess behind the scenes, so the other two incarnates never got released, eventually recycling the andtor incarnate into an idoneth unit because eh why not.
I think we might also see the spider incarnate at some point, recycled as another faction specific incarnate. Maybe gits because spiders, maybe umbraneth because of shadows, we'll see

Hedonite announcement in ~57 minutes. Get hype!

>>98205218
Looks way to Deepkin-ish for me to believe this

>>98205121
Not to mention that Ouboroth is still alive as Sekhar's snake minion. I can't remember the source but Ushoran took one look at it and heavily implied it's a lot more powerful then it lets on

>>98205254
Those details could have been added after the decision was made to repurpose it.

>>98205254
Honestly there's nothing particularly idoneth-y about it. Compare to the eidolon for example, which has a million seacreatures swimming around. The incarnate just has rocks and starfish.

>>98205343
His build around a sunken ship, whcih is Idoneth terrain piece

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>>98205157 (OP)
On the same note, I believe the Coghead Duardin mentioned in the same booklet were Ironweld/Dispossessed rather than KO and they just went in another direction after some concept work.

>>98205218
>Gallet
It was Ulgu. The Krondspine is an incarnate of Ghur, not Thondia.
What would that have been an incarnate of? No realm is centred around water outside of Ulgu, which would've been the Spider according to both leakers and the Thondia cliffhanger

Is the a scan of the new CoS battletome already?

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Remember wizard focused Cogfort?

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That's Jon Cave's art, no?

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dont even play slaanesh so never gonna buy these but kinda really dig these dice

>>98205481
yeah they do look nice. Like mutilated flesh. I wonder where my foreskin is now...

>>98205431
>still no warcry rules for the city of ash stuff
*sad chaos noises*

>>98205502
It's dead, Jim.

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>>98205375
The krondspine is a mountain range *in* thondia. As for the spider incarnate, we have artwork showing it in the background when talking about ghur and the gnarlwood and shit (which btw is at the edge of thondia and gallet)
We know from rumourmongers that season of war thondia was supposed to be followed up by a season of war gallet and a season of war thondia.
Oh and also, from the general's handbook we know gallet is a land full of tunnels and chasms, "where the dominant lifeforms is the arthropod".
So to recap;
We had season of war thondia dropping the krondspine (which is in thondia) incarnate
This was supposed to be followed by a season of war gallet, which we know is all about spiders and shit
We know the spider rumour engine is an incarnate, and that it's connected to gallet via the gnarlwood
We know that this book was then eventually supposed to be followed up by a season of war andtor, which is a coastal region
Then a couple years later, GW just out of the blue drops this centrepiece on idoneth, a faction which had received nothing but heroes since launch, and which is already inundated with centrepieces
I rest my case
one criticism which I can think of is that andtor looks to be a fairly cold region, which nothing on the incarnate of the deeps really draws attention too.

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Turns out Aos was due a model of that one Blanche art piece.
Bit sad how both forgeworld and Blanche is gone.

>>98205606
Interesting, wonder what faction this model would have been used for since it doesn't really suit any of the current factions like the Slambo model did

>>98205592
>one criticism which I can think of is that andtor looks to be a fairly cold region, which nothing on the incarnate of the deeps really draws attention too.
It's possible that the stone teeth were originally supposed to be ice

>>98205606
Yeah, it's been floating around for a couple years.
Sprue says 2018, though it looks kind of off and weirdly stiff. Was probably designed like a decade earlier, sat around until they figured maybe we could release it in aos, but then something happened and it got blocked. Who knows.

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>>98205431
wtf these are out of the blue for me, did I miss these being revealed or released elsewhere?

>>98205686
They were released in a FOMO box a while ago, so this is their full release

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>>98205645
Mhm, maybe. Good point
>>98205686
Did you somehow miss city of ash? These are just those guys available separately now.

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>>98205592
>>98205645
They regularly describe the Idoneth incarnate as attacking with freezing water. The tendrils attacks are even called "Freezing Grasp". So them originally being intended as chunks of ice isn't far fetched. There's also not a single Idoneth design cue on the model besides the sea life and detritus. No scalloped lockboxes or broken pottery like pic related. The 3 regions incarnate feels like a more sound theory to me than Krondpine-Ghur, Spider-Ulgu, Fincarnate-???.

>>98205742
>GRASPING TENDRILS:The Incarnate reaches out across the ethersea to conjure tendrils of freezing, coiling water
Huh, you're right.
But yeah I think it would've been something like
>krondspine incarnate of ghur [thondia]
>gnarlwood incarnate of ghur [gallet]
>krakensea incarnate of ghur [andtor]
Last two names are just ideas of course, but they do follow the krondspine example.
Honestly I think we got a pretty solid case here fellas

>>98205375
>No realm is centred around water outside of Ulgu
Ghyran kind of is, in a way. It's where the idoneth equivalent of hammerhal is located (priom). Ghyran as a wind of magic was also always associated with water and the sea, for example the sea elemental of the whfrpg is created by an abundance of ghyran magic. I believe in tow the cathayans have their own names for the winds of magic, and ghyran becomes the elemental wind of magic.

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>>98204463
I'd bet it's more than likely mancrushers and endless spells. I'm wondering if they'll sell multi mancrusher boxes with maybe one alternate build and then you can run 2 mancrushers and a shaman. (Just like every time they pull that annoying shit of, 2-3 model kit, ONE CAN BE BUILT AS A HERO FOR SOME REASON)

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What's the deal with khinerai heartrenders/lifetakers, and are they worth taking?
I'm new to DoK, and I can't really figure out how to place them in a list. Do I use them as a skirmishing unit? Do I rush them down the board at a soft target? Do I just use them as a distraction for something more important?
My instincts are telling me I should be playing DoK like a lawnmower - build up some buffs and then commit to hyper-aggression - so a unit designed more around poke than anything else kinda throws me off.

If I knew how hard it would be to paint the underside/chest of some of these clanrats I wouldn't have picked up this fucking army

>>98205880
You can already run mancrushers as 1, so nothing changes.
But it probably will be the hero option in a non-hero unit like Lord of Afliction or the dragon knight

>>98205998
>But it probably will be the hero option in a non-hero unit like Lord of Afliction or the dragon knight

That shit drives me insane, because my fucking brain wants to run a normal reinforced unit.
It's like that shit back on the xbox 360 where you played a demo of a game and it automatically gave you an achievement worth like... 17 points or some shit, and the only way to round it out was by buying the game.

>>98205986
>>98206088
I feel like the NuSkaven models were designed specifically for contrast paints.

>>98206107
I think a lot of new stuff is designed specifically to work with contrast! I feel like people here give contrast a lot of shit but using it as a tool or with a bit more care it can make some nice effects.

>>98206115
I don’t like them because I paint for the painting rather than playing and I also like to be in control of every brush stroke but I certainly recognize why they’re popular.

>>98206140
I dunno man, shit like skeleton horde makes a better agrax than agrax. Or some of the opaque ones area fantastic, black legion (or templar) make some of the smoothest black I've seen.

I feel like it's another tool like a wash or oils.

>>98206157
Tbf I dislike washes too

>>98206169
>dislikes washes
>yet his GOAT washed

>>98205363
Yeah, but their ship isnt an idoneth ship, its a sigmarite ship, who knows how many of those are in Ghur's seas

>>98206115
>>98206140
Contrast paints i find work very well as a very hard wash, using it over parts that were already painted the same color

>>98205448
Does that imply cities is getting a 4th wave?

>>98205431
Does this mean the Soggy rules are gone? RIP

>>98205200
It's LRL Vs SBGL
I'm guessing it's some terrain or something GW don't want to promote like a figure from another company used as a statue? Totally looks like a hand and some kind of chain

>>98206399
Now that gets me hype. I need more wizards for my tzeentch boys.

>>98205481
Wow I really want these for my ECs.

>>98205431
Any leaks from the HoS tome or the GHB?

>>98206453
What was their third wave?

>>98206572
OG wave, I'm counting city of ash as a wave, and then the most recent wave.

>>98206453
>Get the ogor in the 2nd wave and gargant in the 3rd
I'm looking forward to the inevitable mega gargant

>>98206639
Gosbeast in 5th, trust the plan

>>98206169
Watching how other people (even professionals) use washes makes my eyes shoot open like I'm watching a car accident
They just slop that shit on and it seems insane and difficult to control that way

>>98206882
Agrax was the biggest lie I was ever sold. Feel like everyone talks about slopping it on and it magically creates a weathered shade on a model when the reality is it looks like you pulled it out of some wet mud. Feel like a lot of YouTubers do editing tricks with their drying times and touch ups

>>98206767
Tzeentch in general is strong but minus the shooting aspect of it, warflock is definitely good. The army is extremely selfish however and doesn’t like regiments of renown.

>>98206903
Skeleton horde is the secret, Agrax can be nice sometimes but Skeleton horde (or whatever army painter equivalent)

>>98205976
They're for grabbing objectives and killing weak heroes. You have the flying in the air, then they drop down late game to steal points and throw spears at people.
The D6 move after shooting means you can kind of keep them out of harm's way

>>98205363
And Nighthaunt have under the sea models too, IDK don't have monopoly over sea-everything much like KO don't have monopoly over air everything given how skaven and gobbo airships keep appearing both in lore and in white dwarf kitbashes.

>>98206919
Yup.

>>98207012
>And Nighthaunt have under the sea models too

They have like, the 1.