/trv/ — Anything interesting to see in Malaysia or just skip it for

>>2876169 (OP)
Woth a week or two visit after that it's the most generic SEA place possible without any of the perks

>>2876174
What’s the best SEA country? And what do you mean by perks

>>2876175
>What’s the best SEA country?
I don't know what you like so what am I supposed to say? For all I know you like rock climbing

Women in Malaysia are pretty well known to be closed off or scammy.
The amount of things to do run out pretty quick
Beer is expensive due to mostly muslim
The serving sizes of food, while amazing looking, are retardedly small
The history of malaysia is pretty meh just "yeah so british ruled here for a while and left... I think ww2 happened"
The party vibe you get in thailand, singapore, vietnam, HK, just straight up isn't there or is insanely expensive.

Overall if you don't drink, just like seeing jungle shit, some cool new buildings, and want to be fucking cheap stays go for it. Enjoy WHOOOO IS ALLLLLLAH in the morning make sure not to book right next to that shit as it gets annoying, fast. It's the perfect place for a gap in tourist visa resetting

>>2876169 (OP)
It sucks. The women are ugly and act like cunts. It's a muslim country so they have rules for goyim, eg in the supermarket they sell cheap rice but only to malaysians, the metro costs $12 a month to malaysians but foreigners get screwed, foreigners have to pay a nightly tax on every hotel/hostel etc
No malaysian person will ever give a shit about you, the other expats here seem to be heavily compromising by being here. No one cares who you are or where you're from, there's basically four groups of people and they're completely hierarchical in this order: malays, chinese malaysians, jeet malaysians, and foreigners.

>>2876177
I like the food. Popiah are amazing and hard to find in the US, the texture of the wrapper is kinda soft and spongy and it comes with a unique fermented bean dip sauce (how i've had it in the us)
I also like their stir fry noodles
I would never visit a Muslim place but I bet some of the food is good.

>make my money woof
hehe

We can never have too many SEA threads

>>2876169 (OP)
Petronas Towers, Batu Caves, Brickfields, Melaka, Merdeka 118, National Mosque, Bukit Bintang

Not much to it really. The food scene is really good (I mean legitimately good), but otherwise its pretty mediocre.
One of the primary issues I had with malaysia and Kuala lumpur in particular were Indians being everywhere. They are basically the labor caste, but I still dont want to see them all the time.

Having Indians around is like a bad smell in your house you cannot quite pinpoint and get a whiff of randomly through the day, disrupting your peace.

>>2876229
Yea I heard the food is dope. I kind of want to just have a 2 week foodie hiatus between cooming in other countries

That people here are saying Malaysia is bad proves that nobody has any interest in nature. Everyone is just visiting places to coom and get drunk. And I get it. It's fun. But I have all that at home if I want it. I don't have massive jungles and orangutans at home, but Malaysia does.

I spent a week in Malaysia.

Pros:
> Cheap
> Everyone speaks English
> Extremely safe
> Decent infrastructure (leftover from british)
> Best food on earth (combined the best parts of Thai, Indian, and Chinese cuisines)
> Night markets (run by the chinese minority) are as good, if not better, than the ones in Taiwan.

Cons:
> Utterly BORING
> Islamic laws mean nothing interesting ever happens
> No culture of excellence. There is nothing terrible but also nothing amazing. Very typical of Muslim societies, it's a side side effect of the belief in qadar (predestination)
> The country was handed a golden platter of a plentiful resources + great legal system + infrastructure when the British left. But they squandered it though incompetence and corruption.
> Innovation and business development is done by the successful chinese minority, but the chinese are heavily discriminated against by law (school, jobs, government grants). It's actually quite sad.

Malaysia is absolutely perfect if you want a cheap, safe, family friendly vacation with your wife and kids. But very boring if you like anything interesting. Thailand / Vietnam are much better for that.

The best, and easiest way to visit Malaysia is by going to Singapore and doing a day-trip to Johor. That's more than enough to see the country, you might get bored of the country after a few hours (like I did).

I'm very convinced everyone here is only visiting Johor and Kuala Lumpur's downtown area for 2 days then leaving. It's like visiting Shenzhen and saying China has nothing to do, or visiting Switzerland and only going to Geneva.

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>>2876250
>Innovation and business development is done by the successful chinese minority, but the chinese are heavily discriminated against by law (school, jobs, government grants). It's actually quite sad.
most of the chinese here are racist schizos and dont care about it or know about it. they are happy patriotcattle and all their social medias are blocked from talking about or criticizing it so they are none the wiser. they have a civnat mentality where a brown malay or malaysian jeet is viewed as the in group while they hate their own blood brothers from china with a passion.
and the chinese were undeservedly gifted all of the capital when the british fucked off, they didnt rise to the top by merit. most of the chinese malaysians are dysgenic af compared to mainlanders or taiwan

>>2876177
>It's a muslim country so they have rules for goyim
I had no problems finding alcohol

>>2876276
man overseas chinese are so insufferable. Chairman Xi smite these faggots

>>2876276
>while they hate their own blood brothers from china with a passion.
For everyone else out there, this dude is just a seething chinaman. The Chinese in Malaysia descend from people who moved there centuries ago. Many have been living there since the 13th century. Older people don't even speak Mandarin, they speak languages like Hokkien.

This is like seething that Brits don't feel any connection to their Norman brothers back in France.

>>2876287
If your point here is that Malaysian Chinese see themselves as Chinese to the same extent (some) modern day French would see themselves as British, ie not at all, you are wrong. That anon's pic proves as much when the girl says
>马来西亚的华人和中国的华人完全不一样
>Malaysian Chinese and PRC Chinese are completely different

Such phrasing making clear the point that she sees herself/both as Chinese (华人)

Malaysia elicits a lot of hatred from degenerate Zionist-coded shills for the simple fact that the country does not recognize the existence of Israel. Malaysia is also one of very few countries who refused to sign a declaration condemning racism. Ethnic and cultural segregation is the norm in Malaysia. This also makes shills butthurt.

The truth is that Malaysia is full of beautiful pleasant experiences for those willing to explore the country. Public transport between towns in Malaysia is affordable and comfortable, but if you really want to see the natural beauty, waterfalls and caves and rainforest treks, you need to arrange private transport.

Dining culture varies hugely across the country. Food prices are significantly higher than in Thailand. Anons who complain about small portions are eating at 5 minute fastfood slop joints in the big city. Ingredient quality at such places is also low. They are intended for the working class. Leisure dining - i.e. the really good food - is an evening and nighttime pastime in Malaysia, so save your appetite for after dark. And be prepared to pay $5 or more for your meal. Don't think you're gonna enjoy an amazing plate of food for $2.50. If you're new to the cuisine, you'll think it tastes good, but once you try the really good stuff, it's tough to go back to mee goreng tier slop.

>>2876292
You're a dumb ESL who can't speak English and couldn't understand my basic ass sentence. You argued against the opposite of what I said. Retard lol

>>2876276
All Chinese diaspora (Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia) are all massive cocksucking faggot racetraitors. No different than a white libtard. The Chinese diaspora are why people hate the Chinese, but if you go to China the people are really friendly and welcoming.

>>2876285
at 10x markup
>>2876294
t. literal ministry of tourism shill

>>2876309
I noticed I got the direction backwards after posting thanks but did I actually miss the point you're making? That there are several-hundred-year-old migrations of people that were once one and now don't remotely consider themselves one?

>>2876310
I had the same experience. All english speakers are white libtards or slightly discounted versions. They're all a part of the english media/algorithm bubble
>>2876313
you don't get it, it's like when white americans think they are more similar to basketball americans than they are to other white people

>>2876315
Evidently I don't get it. I have no idea what the point you're trying to make is between
>This is like seething that Brits don't feel any connection to their Norman brothers back in France.
and
>like when white americans think they are more similar to basketball americans than they are to other white people

>>2876315
>it's like when white americans think they are more similar to basketball americans than they are to other white people
They are.
t. other white people

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I use it as a spacer for visa hopping so people don't think I have a job in some country. It's fine but this is the average exp, the gem of Malay is George Town IMO.
>land in KILA/KILA2
>wow it sucks here
>remember the train is bullshit and dumps you at the gayest station ever and the following metro is also gay and get a grab
>SIRS WHERE U FROM SIRS for the entire ride
>get to Airbnb that is available to host men because like 1/2 are women only
>looks (kinda) like the pictures close enough to where you can't call airbnb to refund nothing horribly wrong
>aircon will suck, they always suck, any gym is cardio shit in the condo, pool is kiddie piss bowl, air makes wanting to sunbathe a chore
>go out for some food, wow it's so cheap why don't I come here more often
>realize the serving size is meant for human skeletons if you gym good luck keeping your daily intake hit
>go to the supermarket realize you went to the wrong one because this one is HALAL only so you have to go to a mall for the other good stuff
>find whatever walmart tier shit to buy and cook at home
>decide to go out since an event is in town CHINKS CHINKS EVERYWHERE when you do make it inside the vibe is like jr high dance shit
>go get a beer at a pub after realize everything is highway robbery even for SEA
>Chinese girl sits down with you, says she has some cute friends (this is a scam run)
>try to chat with locals, they are legit retarded. I have no words they make pino's in Manila look like educated fun people. Seriously I explained to a few friends I made years back there was a china town in KL (the city they grew up) and were like wut that is not true. Most only have one topic to live by and that's it
>every point of interest is a 1 trick pony, there is 0 reason to revisit

I know some fags here love it, especially the country, but all you will see is pale imitations of british culture and chinese moving in non-stop. No they didn't move there 2000 years ago they are the ones actively fleeing.

>>2876394
truest post I ever read on this site

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What's said in the thread and
>book max 90 day stay in Malaysia
>read malaysia is awesome and has tons of cool things
>alright will see north parts, KL, and johor
>it's literally india lite but with random chinese towns everywhere
>every town has maybe 1 week max to see everything
The food is SSS+ if you want to photomaxx for instagram with girls in other parts of asia, but it absolutely sucks in terms of cost for the money.

>>2876412
the post forgot the constant smell of sewage and cheap places to eat where brids fly in and poop right on or next to food. I remember getting some street food and seeing rats run around the kitchen while the owner was like "ah no problem no bite".

>>2876315
Europeans don't consider white Americans to be trad based trve Scotsmen just because one of their great great great great grand uncle's ex-wives had a great great step grandfather who lived in Scotland 300 years ago. Why would a Malaysian who's got a family lineage 700 years in Malaysia have any connection to The People's Republic of China?

The food serving size thing is a common complaint but an issue I never encountered personally in Kuala lumpur

Im 5' 11, 175lbs and active and was satisfied every time.

>>2876438
>Im 5' 11, 175lbs and active and was satisfied every time.
lol please tell me this is bait

>>2876440
It's a ministry of tourism "I'm having a blast" shill

>>2876312
My last Malaysia trip was really enjoyable. I blogposted about every town I visited on r/Malaysia and got hellacious updoots. Can't wait for the new railway from Kota Bahru to Kuantan to be completed. Terengganu is an extremely beautiful state, but it has the worst public transport in the peninsula, which makes it a hassle to visit. It's also one of two peninsular states (the other being Kelantan) where it's almost impossible to find beer.
>>2876394
All of this sounds like a skill issue. I met intelligent people in Kuala Lumpur. My rooms all had powerful silent A/C units. If I wanted to get stuffed, I'd go to a dhaba style eatery run by a 250 pound Muslim guy and he'd serve me a giant plate of mutton curry - full of big tender chunks of sheep - with biryani rice for $5. Double burgers cost $2 and are sold on the street late in the evening all over the country. Each one is about 4 oz of beef. Human skeletons my ass. Malaysia is full of beefy fat Muslim guys who stuff themselves with meat on a regular basis. Stop going to the Chinese food courts. Chinese are much more racist toward whites than Malays are. Of course they're going to give you three fishballs and two tiny scraps of pork when the regulars get eight fishballs and six pieces of pork in their noodle soup.
>>2876418
Sparrows hopping all over the food prep counter is common in lower-class restaurants in Thailand and Malaysia. What can anyone do about it? The rats and roaches are sewer dwellers. Usually you see them when they are making a connection from one drain to another. Their presence has no bearing on food quality.
>it's literally india lite
You clearly haven't been to India. Only a few Malaysian cities even come close to the impatient aggressive driving behavior that is universal in India. Malaysian urban development is much more uniform than India, which varies hugely from one block to another. Malaysia's roads are also in excellent condition compared to India's roads.

>>2876443
>new railway from Kota Bahru to Kuantan
Didn't know about that. Seems it'll be ready early next year.

Got any suggestions for the east peninsula? I've seen basically all the best spots on the western side and loved it. Think I might go and see the east next year if this train gets completed on time.

>>2876454
All of the coastal towns of Terengganu were quite pleasant. Besut was a shithole, but it's the departure point for the Perhentian islands. Marang is a hub for boaters. It's incredible how many boats go in and out of that harbor every day. The islands off the east coast are reportedly amazing, but they are some of the priciest places to visit in Malaysia. Taking a boat out on Kenyir Lake and doing some rainforest camping also sounds like a helluva time.

>>2876637
>The islands off the east coast are reportedly amazing, but they are some of the priciest places to visit in Malaysia.
Malaysia's islands (on both sides of the peninsula) are some of the most attractive places in the whole country and there are some good events on the islands.
Pavarotti stayed on Pangkor Laut island (little island next to the main Pangkor island, off the west coast of Perak state) years ago and since then they have had "opera in paradise" events every year. I have been to Pangkor but not to Pangkor Laut so I might go myself this year. Yes it is pricy.

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>>2876443
>If I wanted to get stuffed, I'd go to a dhaba style eatery run by a 250 pound Muslim guy and he'd serve me a giant plate of mutton curry - full of big tender chunks of sheep - with biryani rice for $5
Ah yes where birds regularly shit into the food, rats run around just out of site, and your 'filling" meal is 99% due to the naan bread given. Yes anon I can get "full" on a bowl of tomato soup and loaf of bread. Yeah alright now break down the protein and nutrient to balance out your diet for a day of walking and gym. Also not sure where you are going most those meals are now 20RM minimum for the base plate at places like that which is going to be 50% rice, unless you're on the real outskirts where good luck not getting had as a white guy.

>You clearly haven't been to India
This board has to have paid malay shills making 5rm a post, hey dumbfuk that's why I said it was india LITE. India has some nice places if you're willing to go find them where the cops will beat anyone begging senseless, same as Malaysia. It's still overall insanely dirty, filled with insane homeless, shit everywhere, open sewage, smog hell, low quality living.

The main benefit Malaysia has for it is that it's english speaking, cheap as shit, and easy enough to get around. It faulters on basically every other level of interest to anyone willing to throw down cash. As stated by other anons, it's GOAT if you need to visa reset and don't care about gooning while not breaking the bank.

>>2876177
Best answer here.
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>>2876680
>no you're the shill!
Yet you're the one who keeps smearing Malaysia with ridiculous claims. No there is not going to be any birdshit in your food. Outside of the KL slums, dishes are always kept covered. Yes it is easy to eat large quantities of meat or fish for $4-6 USD. Yes it is normal to get served more rice than you want to eat and leave some on your plate. No, Malaysia is nowhere near as dirty as you make it out to be. Picrel is what the drainage ditches look like in one of India's best-developed cities. No Malaysian river is this contaminated with rubbish. You need to get around more. You'll find more filth and strewn rubbish in Bakersfield California than you will find in Ipoh Malaysia.

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This is a random street in Kota Bahru, one of the poorest cities in Malaysia. Notice how it looks nothing at all like its Indian equivalent. Even the best Indian cities look worse than this.

Now of course that doesn't mean other countries are not much more appealing to visit than Malaysia. But any attempt to call Malaysia a dirty shithole is categorically disingenuous. In fact, you only notice the design and maintenance flaws because the country as a whole is so well-kept and clean. In other tropical Asian countries, the well-developed areas are the exception, not the rule.

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LMAO it's actually the Malay shill, dude must been tricked that is qadar was to defend Malay online.
It's india lite because
Every Malays stinks something fierce when walking around, you notice this as an outsider
Conversations with local everyday malay are akin to speaking with some dub 85 IQ indian
The amount of techsupport(scams) running in the country and that use singapore proxies are fucking insane only challenged by africa or India
The infrastructure built by the english is crumbling and Malay are too fucking stupid to figure out what to do, this leads to the king sucking Xi's cock for some Wild new project idea that does nothing to help the poverty piling up everywhere
Any day that's hot you'll almost always have a fun smell of sewage seeping up from the side of the barely covered roads
Good luck finding any water to dip your feet in or sit by that isn't full of things that would kill you
Can't flush tolietpaper tier country
Food quality control is nonexistent, again those "hekkin cheap" restoran's often have huge bug, rat, birdshit problems but I guess it's kino because you can tell instagrammers please like and racist if not
Women are dogshit to even talk with on a platonic sense
The reason for revisitation is basically at 0 because the people there can't make anything interesting

Lastly, you're exactly like india lite because the second anyone brings up some mild very tame criticism that's valid it turns into a mult stage copium episode of NO SIRS SEE MY PHOTO? GOOD YES VERY NICE PLEASE VISIT YES! SIRS PLEASE YOU ARE BITCH IF YOU NOT!
>>2876914
Yeah it's usually clean on the main strip, not go off the main path is fine now go to Kuilim, butterworth, and norther Johor and find some alleys to walk down. uh oh.

It's hilarious that virtually any other country can have some criticism given and people will roll with it, but malaysia gets some factual shit thrown around and the defense force shows up

>>2876911
>No there is not going to be any birdshit in your food.
i can't say i've ever seen birdshit but there are plenty of rats and cockroaches around. the open drains that run in front of shop lots contain a lot of interesting wildlife.
>No, Malaysia is nowhere near as dirty as you make it out to be.
lol it absolutely is. of course they keep the tourist areas tidy but believe me there is rubbish everywhere. although the place i live is reasonably nice- give or take a bunch of takeaway containers dumped around the place- about half a mile away there is a cheap apartment building and it is an absolute mess. abandoned cars, flytipped furniture, general shit is everywhere in the street running alongside. the cars is the weird thing. they just sit there for years, leaves and stuff piling up on top, but it seems they almost never get broken into or stripped for parts like they would in most countries
>No Malaysian river is this contaminated with rubbish
maybe not but there are some that come close. the main problem in malaysia's rivers is industrial pollution
>>2876923
>Conversations with local everyday malay are akin to speaking with some dub 85 IQ indian
harsh but fair. they are not bright people generally

>>2876915
>But any attempt to call Malaysia a dirty shithole is categorically disingenuous.
Ah right Klang river doesn't exist or have regular dregging due to the amount of garbage that collects into it
Any back alley goes from okay to shit, the only real reason main places can look good is because the rampid poors pick up anything that could be sold for a ringgit. Walk by any mid tier chinese/malay community for some real eye-opening shit or do those now not count?

> only notice the design and maintenance flaws because the country as a whole is so well-kept and clean
No, I notice it because I go "huh what's that smell?" look around and keep walking; or I just do what everyone else sees. The construction or reconstruction of what is clearly english inspired and cultivated buildings, towns, segregation, and design; all being slopped together by Chang and co all speaking mainland chinese trying to make tofu buildings that will fall apart by the time my tourist visa is over.

Malaysia has some cool things to it, don't get me wrong but it's often hilarious how /trv/ specifically has this random amount of shills ready to talk about how "no you see a few picture here means we are first world! we even have big outside Air Condition walk way BIGGEST IN WORLD!" like wow cool dude... everywhere else has normal useful things. Yeah cool AC outside, now I can just smell the smog and sewage while being slightly cooler.

Penang is pretty comfy. Some half decent bars, the food is crazy good. Old archietecture and narrow streets with lots of action. Haunting chants from the mosques during the evening. Chill walking along the harbour and also out in the sticks towards the National Park. If you are ok with things being a bit more expensive than Thailand but not having to be harassed for MASSSAGE!!! then this is the place for you.

>>2876960
You mean George Town right? Butterworth is kinda okay I guess? but Penang is just where all the rich people kicked the poorfags out of the island to.

>>2876961
Butterworth on the mainland is pretty dire.

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>>2876961
>the food is really AMAZING IN Malaysia
Is this a meme or something?I feel like virtually anywhere SEA has good food for the price, maybe I am spoiled as a US citizen living in a port town where I can practically get any kind of food from polish, to kenya, to indoneasia, etc. The food's cheap sure but that's like all SEA. The most I can see about Malaysia is the presentation of dishes is better than their neighbors

>>2876960
>be harassed for MASSSAGE!!!
I miss this right now. I'm so handsome man ;_;

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>>2876959
These Malaysian towns are still some of the cleanest, most well-kept places you'll find in all of the tropics. On par with many Californian cities for cleanliness. And nobody cares about your hypersensitive nose which is offended by the slightest odor of dampness from the drains.

>>2877080
I personally just let people think Malaysia is awful. They can keep going to Thailand while I enjoy a normie-free experience in Malaysia.

>>2877080
SIRS LOOK THE STREET CONSTANTLY USED BY CAR CLEAN!!!

Okay now walk down that street and deal with the trash vendors throw around constantly, go to any street market, look at any alleyway full of flytipped shit, now explain the smell. It's not hard to have a main town center or road clean anon. I could literally post a street in Detriot or some hood and go "see look the road is clean the houses look pretty clean" but if you've been you know it's not.

Again, this is a turdworlder argument who doesn't understand what being clean is because they've never been around it. Hey have constant issues with hygiene since most restaurants only care of their halal certification. Washing old food to clean it for resale, leaving it out while birds peck at it because whatever, bugs literally everywhere, rats with who knows what on them, running around is constantly brushed aside because "wow cheap food, look so yummy! food on street corner safe in malay all day!" bullshit. Don't get me started on the mold issues, air quality issues, and sewage system that is just covered up by some stone on many side streets.
> On par with many Californian cities for cleanliness.
LMFAO, yeah dude I too only think that California = LA run-down migrant districts.
>And nobody cares about your hypersensitive nose which is offended by the slightest odor
I yeah dude I too love living downtown where smog is heavy on some days with literal health advisories, tuktuks and other BS auto cars blowing black smoke out, the smell of sewage+mystery chemicals on a hot day from the main rivers; and oh let's not forget the acid rain warnings/health warnings regularly issued by your gov
https://www.met.gov.my/en/pencerapan/mendapan-asid/

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>use google maps in a city to get around
>go through this side street
>see this
>but sirs... the car road is of clean!

>>2877003
LOVE YOU VERY BIG

>>2876979
I find there is more variation in Malaysia compared to other SEA places like Thailand and Laos.

>>2877111
You have Indian, Chinese, Thai, Western and Nusuntara cuisines all available in a single country. What Malaysia lacks is Vietnamese food, unfortunately.
>>2877089
Duh. Rubbish has to go somewhere. If there are no rubbish bins, it's going to get piled on the ground. Most of Malaysia has big green rubbish bins all over the place. Many rural villages they dump trash on the edge of the village and light it on fire. But the main streets themselves are swept clean.

>>2877116
That's in the heart of chinatown in KL