/tv/ — What went wrong?

It happened after Ed, Edd n Eddy ended. The soul of CN left this Earth amd was replaced with turds like Regular Time and Adventure Show.

You didn't grow up

>>221089557 (OP)
CalArts.

That and troons not being sent to asylums and treatment on discovery.

>>221089557 (OP)
Boston
Adventure Time
Gutting then killing Toonami and resurrecting it so TOM can be a libtard

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>>221089557 (OP)
why watch kiddy bullshit when your mom and pop just bought you an iPad with unrestricted internet access?

>>221089557 (OP)
the next generation of millennial animators used their projects as therapy instead of expressing their undisclosed sexual fetishes like the previous Gen-X animators did

>>221089557 (OP)
You just reminded me of that one time they completely fucked me over by getting halfway through the Cell Saga of DBZ and then, for no fucking reason at all, just starting from the very beginning of the show the next day, like wtf why would they even do that?

>>221089557 (OP)
2 mergers and with dumb boomer CEOs not knowing what to do with the brand

>>221089557 (OP)
jews

2005-2006
Which funny enough is when Adult Swim started putting out better programming at that time.

>>221089642
This is the post of the year on TV. Ren and Stimpy versus Steven Universe.

>>221089557 (OP)
When they tried to do all live action bs.
Steven universe is a stain.
>>221089596
Regular show is great. I genuinely find adventure time unwatchable.

>>221089557 (OP)
>Crunchyroll will take over CN broadcasting rights come next year
How insane.

>>221090172
I have no idea how the masses became so captivated with AT.
I was still watching cartoons in 2011 and even I thought it was cringy quirkslop.

>>221089557 (OP)
Live action stuff, especially in adult swim.

There was that period for a while where literally half their programming was Teen Titans Go, that's basically suicide. I stopped watching TV entirely around then so I have no idea what followed

>>221089557 (OP)
It stopped being a Valhalla for the best cartoons ever made and just became another generic zoomer kids channel.

>>221090391
Boomerang won.

>>221090371
I tried to watch it multiple times and always got a headache or felt sick. I liked Jake but I found Finn annoying and the world was too all over the place for me. I liked the misadventures of flapjack and chowder. Initially I didn't like regular show but getting high and watching it helped.

>>221090391
Didn't they turn Boomerang into that? I don't know if that still exists though

>>221090403
I feel like Boomerang was all right at first, but when Cartoon Network split itself into two channels, it just meant that each channel was only half as good as the one that preceded it.

>>221090403
Boomerang was good but it only had the old shorts and the H-B cartoons. What made CN great was the sheer amount of variety that included the older cartoons as well as quality new ones. And then they threw in the best cartoons produced from the 90s like Batman, Animaniacs, and SWAT Kats, and a whole block dedicated to anime on top of that? It's never been matched.

>>221090471
Cartoons should honestly have stopped with Hannah-Barbera

>>221090371
I thought I was getting too old for cartoons when AT came out because I just didn't GET it like everyone else for some reason, until I realized everything from CN up to like 2005 was still pretty fantastic. I still don't get it, really.

>>221090505
They play tons of them everyday on MeTV Toons now.

>>221090505
Most HB toons are really not that good. I like them, but there is objectively much better stuff from both before and after the HB prime era.

I have a theory that they tried to appeal to younger teens back in the early 2010s with more serious and dramatic shows like the original Teen Titans, Generator Rex and the 2011 Thundercats reboot, but then realized these shows were too expensive to produce and most of the target audience just watched anime instead anyway. So they simply gave up and decided to pivot to much younger kids who had never even heard of anime, which meant the plots and characters needed to be dumbed down and the visuals had to be more simplistic.

>>221090348
>no sauce
fuck off weeb

>>221090571
Too good for scrolling backdrops and zany misadventures I see.

>>221090580
Cartoon Network originally was meant to be a channel for everyone. When it was pitched in 1991, they targeted it with adults in mind. The whole premise was that adults watched cartoons as much as kids did.

Around 1995, they started to get into original programming. This was due to the success that Nickelodeon had with the NickToons. This is where they began to shift their demographics a little more towards kids. The wanted to make their own original shows that would eventually turn into profitable merchandising powerhouses, just like Ren & Stimpy and Rugrats did for Nick. Nick released a Rugrats film sometime in the late 90s and at the time it was the highest grossing non-Disney animated film of all time. It all came crashing down for Cartoon Network when they released a theatrical film based on The Powerpuff Girls and it bombed badly. After that point they basically scrapped the entire channel's identity and it turned into Nickelodeon 2.0 during the day, and aired cheaply made stoner cartoons at night.

>>221090676
I'm just thankful we got Home Movies out of this

>>221090602
No way. I like Johnny Quest, Scooby Doo Where are You, Flintstones, Top Cat etc. But there are loads of forgotten ones than are just cheap and mediocre.
But Looney Tunes was better animated and was generally funnier, and theres plenty of shows in the Cartoon Cartoon era that are better than most HB toons.
I respect them, but I'm also glad that cartoons didn't end with them.

>>221090755
You know what I just might get back into watching Hong Kong Fooey

>>221090580
That's kinda right, but it's more like Lego Chima showed CN that zoomers had low standards and would watch whatever you put on anyway, so the programming got cheaper.

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>>221090580
That would explain stuff like Teen Titans Go which was both appealing and successful for the young crowd which doesn't know better, but not things like Steven Universe or Adventure time (the latter started without much of a bigger plot but got one as it went on).
My theory is that nepotism + the decay of animation education that led to the death of CN. People were picked because they worked and knew staff on other projects rather than pushing the creative envelope, and all they could write about was their own perceived experiences + a general lack of talent because modern art cares more about the intention rather than the final product.
Anyway, by the time Adventure Time came out, it made me realize I was too old for cartoons. They weren't made for me anymore, but I don't think they're made for kids anymore either.

>>221090851
Modern cartoons are made for adults with autism.

>>221090755
Harvey Birdman Attorney at Law is amazing

>>221090851
There's definitely some skipped steps here, but I guess if you want to fit it all that's inevitable

>>221090924
Yeah but thats more an Adult Swim cartoon than a HB one.
Space Ghost Coast to Coast, Cartoon Planet and the Brak Show too. I miss classic AS

>>221090676
Now we have MeTV Toons, which is 100% made with adults in mind. In fact, they go out of their way to specifically not air certain cartoons that appeal to zoomer kids just so they can avoid the same fate that Cartoon Network fell victim to.

>>221090851
The influence Flapjack had was foul.

>>221090851
Who knew Power Puff Girls lead to all that pozzed shit

>>221090580
Original teen titans was early 00s you stupid zoomgroid

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Still think it's hilarious that the Ed, Edd, N' Eddie creator looks like this
Which in my estimation
That show mogged anything else on any other channel. Nicktoddlers need not reply.

>>221091374
Wild an Italian could come up with something as goated as eene

>>221090676
the adults in question where people nostalgic for old Looney Tunes and Hanna Barbera shows. early Cartoon Network's programming was reruns of stuff from the 70s. it wasn't about making cartoons for adults, it was about pandering to nostalgia. by the late 90s they realised adults did not give a shit about new cartoons, so they shuttled the old stuff onto the Boomerang channel specifically made to only air the classics and transitioned CN to an all-modern-show channel.

They canceled Young Justice, ThunderCats, Green Lantern: The Animated Series and The Looney Tunes Show.

>>221091955
Animation that takes effort and actual storytelling clearly had no place there

>>221091955
Young Justice was mid and im a fan

the real reason is people stopped having kids, and cable companies got so greedy that people stopped buying cable subscriptions and switched to streaming. Cartoon channels died because there was nobody left to watch them. CN spamming TTG and Nick spamming Spongebob 23 hours a day are symptoms of the disease, not the cause of it.

>>221091305
Original Teen Titans is from the 70s.

the very simple answer is that children's programming in general has shifted almost entirely to Youtube short form content. very little to do with the actual content being produced.

>>221090851
Good graph. Shows that the decline of western cartoons wasn't because of milennials but the old gen X guard losing touch with reality.

>>221092120
>Ward Taylor Pendleton Johnston (born September 23, 1982), known professionally as Pendleton Ward
>Rebecca Sugar (born July 9, 1987)
>Ian Jones-Quartey (born June 18, 1984)
>Owen Dennis (born March 13, 1987)
>Skyler Dale Page (born October 13, 1989)
>Daron Leah Nefcy (born November 26, 1985)

>>221089596
The early seasons of Adventure Time and Regular Show were pure kino.

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>>221089557 (OP)
I had already stopped watching around 2007 when all the good stuff had already seen its heyday pass them, or had come to an end, and dogshit like Fried Dynamite was airing. I remember waiting on YouTube for Ed Edd n' Eddy's Big Picture Show to be uploaded by someone back around June of 2009, months before it came out in the US, and that was the last Cartoon Network thing I watched.

>>221090580
>>221091305
he probably confused it with Young Justice, which did come out around 2011

>>221092120
As always, millennials are blamed for everything. Shortcomings of generations before and after them get lumped together

>>221091998
Yeah but they cancelled it along with all the other action shows around the same time so that left a big gap

>>221090403
Boomerang has been trash for a long time. MeTV Toons is the new hotness.