>>740833342(OP) >Play RTS campaign >It's fun, unit balance seems good, etc >Hey lets check out the multiplayer! >Entire resource, unit balance and mechanics are different, rendering everything you learned in the campaign useless >Drops game
>>740833342(OP) >giving a shit about anything but compstomp Retard The only exception I make is LANs which are dead shit these days so you can shit talk your opponent in person.
>>740839292 I play AoE to quench my historical and city-building thirst, multiplayer brings nothing but unfunny stress. I can't build cities with chess, so of course I have no problem playing chess with others.
>>740833342(OP) you need a build order, the amount of apm you need to fulfill a build order is very small, yes if you do things like duel with your scout in dark age, mangonels and bombard cannons you are going to lose to someone with more apm but aoe2 is the only game of this kind where if you are just slower in general you are not absolutely fucked out of the gate
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)04:44:51
i've been playing Starship Troopers terran command recently again and holy shit the eradicators fucking suck i can send a basic bitch rifle squad up a lane and it'll comfortably solo a single file stream of regular warrior bugs making some forward progress or even hold decently against the occasional double file meanwhile these fucking horde handler tards need 3 squads to reliably not lose models against just regular ass warrior patrols, let alone shit like tiger bugs
>>740837783 Woah, you mean APM isn't that big of a deal and this board isn't full of tactical geniuses held back solely because they refuse to gookclick? People are, of course, free to not want to engage in PvP but the sheer copium over it on this board is often embarrassing to witness. Supposed casual players just trying to have fun regularly exposing themselves as having tremendous egos. It's not even an RTS thing but any remotely competitive game.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)04:48:48
>>740833342(OP) You don't. It probably matters a bit between the top 3 players in the entire world but you are not those guys.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)04:52:34
>>740833342(OP) He's not wrong and frankly, even in brood war you don't really need super APM until you're around 1900 rank. Up until then you can beat everyone with basic scouting and proper build order even if your apm is ass.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)04:53:09
>>740837783 SC2 all but requires comical attack move-move stutter step to win battles at high ranks. Which is a shitload of APM compared to 'attack move, hope you win'
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)04:53:36
>>740839993 >but aoe2 is the only game of this kind where if you are just slower in general you are not absolutely fucked out of the gate Wrong
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)04:54:57
>>740840428 units with activatable abilities are bad RTS design.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)04:56:07
>>740833342(OP) You don't have to click rapidly at all times just for the sake of it, but you can't treat it like a turn based game either.
>>740840505 What if your RTS only has a single spellcaster?
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)05:03:24
>>740833342(OP) That video was completely full of shit.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)05:03:52
sybau
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)05:04:12
>>740840856 it's pushing it, in that case I'd want most of the units to have autonomy.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)05:06:13
>>740840910 In Populous: The Beginning, your control over your units is loose. You direct them where to go, but once they get into fights they become frenzied and tend not to listen to any commands, they just fight until the battle is done. Your Shaman is the only unit you have complete control over, obviously being the leader of your tribe and the one who quite literally shapes and terraforms the battlefield and rains down brimstone and swarms of locusts. It's great.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)05:07:52
>>740840862 Iirc the point of it is that it's not APM you need but multitasking, which is even harder, lole
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)05:21:01
>>740841065 Which is a skill that 98% of the population can't perform worth a shit, which doesn't help the video at all.
>>740833390 You need it in the original aoe2 campaign too, its really tough
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)05:26:18
>>740833342(OP) Look up LimitedViper, pro got like 3k elo using an apm limiter so he had the speed of a geriatric and still beat everyone
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)05:29:43
>>740841904 60 APM is not that low. If he'd done it with 10 or 15 you'd have a point. He can't.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)05:31:05
>>740833342(OP) You don't need APM to play multiplayer.
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Anonymous06/11/26(Thu)05:31:25
>>740839292 Chess doesn't support single player campaigns you can clear and move on. Esport unironically killed the genre. Multiplayer used to be a one in a while activity for lan parties.