/v/ — Why is this so unfun compared to KH2?

Because it's soulless Unreal movie-slop.

>>740877496 (OP)
>kh3
too many moves that are slow just to be flashy and you're not allowed to touch the ground.

>>740877496 (OP)
Why is KH2 so unfun compared to KH1?

Bc KH3 combat is shit

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>>740877496 (OP)
Because Frozen sucks and the Frozen era of Disney movies sucked

>>740877496 (OP)
Probably because on these fights you are just trying to not get hit by stuff for 90% of the fight. I did enjoy doing it on Critical but I doubt I would ever do it again.

>>740877496 (OP)
Because KH3 gameplay in general is inferior to KH2.

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>>740877496 (OP)
Unreal is unironically a bad engine.

>>740877496 (OP)
KH2 is good
KH3 is shit
Simple as.

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>>740877898
this

>>740877496 (OP)
Overall, KH2 is the better game for many reasons, but KH3 has better combat than KH2, but only in ReMind and Data Fights. KH2 only shows its jankiness in the Data Fights and Terra.

Yozora is literally the greatest single fight in the entire KH franchise.

>>740877496 (OP)
Xehanort steals all of Sora’s powers at the end of the previous game and in kh3 he starts over from scratch and develops a different fighting style

>>740877496 (OP)
they took too long.
the fun left us long ago and not even the whimsy of Goofy could bring out the inner kid.

>>740877496 (OP)
because you suck

>>740878794
>zetaflares you
Whimsical now, fag?

>>740877496 (OP)
Because the game is shit. Every boss is just waiting until the boss does something so you can shotlock them. The extra bosses in KH3 feel like waiting game bosses, while in KH2 the boss fights are much more freeform; you don't have to do reaction commands, and you don't have to wait until the enemy is vulnerable to attack them. The extra bosses in KH3 are turn-based bosses.

did all 3 games back to back (non numbered games suck my balls) and the data fights in 3 are the best bosses in the series by far

>>740877496 (OP)
You don't have Reflect to cheese every fight anymore.

>>740877496 (OP)
fun fact I haven't even seen this yet because my friend didn't buy the dlc and I didn't bother playing KH3 myself despite owning the dlc because it was fucking awful. and we played the ENTIRE series. (- coded) at least I did he don't have the 2.8 collection either.

>>740877496 (OP)
My man, half of Kh2 org13 boss fights are glorified gimmick battles.
Kh3 actually lets you battle them

>>740878885
>garsh. I still feel the dOrkness tugging on my heart, Donald.

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KH2 combat is goo-

>>740878584
The Data Fights and Terra are what redeems KH2’s combat. The other fights in the game are too easy for the combat to be utilised to its fullest potential.

>>740879327
I read that this is to keep the knight guy locked into pseudo hit stun otherwise he'd tear you apart. Is that true

>>740879564
Essentially, yes. KH2 has a system where enemies will automatically counter you after you land so many hits on them to prevent you from stunlocking them to death. However, some types of attack get you closer to that combo limit than others, so by using nothing but the basic aerial finisher repeatedly, the tracker for the limit keeps resetting which allows an infinite stunlock. This works on about 50-60% of the humanoid bosses in the game.

>>740879862
I see.

>>740877898
I had fun drive spamming THOUGH

>>740879327
>maximum cheese with perfect timing or get fucking whipped to negative health after 2 and point 1 bars of hp
>bro why is this so easy?
retard

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>KH2fags when they can't spam reflect

>>740880478
God forbid you use anything but reflect and finisher cheese, you'll get buttraped by everything but Lexaeus

>>740880478
i beat LW without even using final form bro, I actually kept dodging perfectly for at least 5 minutes when he spams his limit break because my bro was cooking and I didn't want them to miss the finish (and then they did anyway because they don't listen to me)

>>740879862
>>740879987
Revenge Values (RVs). It's a garbage fucking system made to punish the player for being good at the game. KH2 is fantastic up until the superbosses, where its combat bursts at the seams and shows all of its flaws. If you don't understand how to play around and manipulate RVs midfight, some data bosses become downright nigh-fucking-impossible (Demyx, Axel, Larxene, Xigbar)

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>KH1 combat is g-

>>740877898
Less exploration than KH1

>>740881250
what a gamer

>>740881250
>being allowed to do funny things is bad, actually

>>740881250
>LV1 speedrun
GTFO of here.

>>740881250
>looking up unfun speedrun metafaggot shit
you have only yourself to blame troon

>>740877496 (OP)
Yeah, Data Xaldin, Data Vexen, Data Demyx, and Data Luxord were so fun, said no one ever.

>>740881250
>status effects work on bosses
This is proof the combat is based actually. It avoids the JRPG cardinal sin.

>>740881250
SOUL

>>740877496 (OP)
I honestly got filtered by those bosses and took a break only to never comeback. I was playing on critical too after the easy base game

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I have to admit KH2 really filtered me. I can't deal with so many fucking systems and effects, trying to remember what form drive limit thing does what to who, trying to make weird effects like magnet work correctly, then timing something else specific to combo with that, needing to keep switching between this and that to get MP back or grind on peons to build drive gauge before a boss, it's too fucking much. That's not even getting into the "revenge meter" thing I have no fucking clue how it works or how to read it on enemies.

Just let me beat motherfuckers up, man.

>>740884275
KH2 is overall a way easier game than KH1. You only need to get into all that autistic shit for the superbosses on Critical.

>>740877496 (OP)
a big thing people don't talk about enough is that the animation in KH3 is trash compared to KH1 and KH2

>>740877496 (OP)
I quite liked the data org fights in KH3. more than the data fights in 2 honestly, though 2 as a whole clears 3.

>>740878556
I wish keyblades kept that size and shape in game. the kingdom key now looks very short and fat

>>740885042
Probably adjusted it for Mickey's model and never changed it back

>>740881223
>for being good at the game
maybe if there was some actual execution to combos sure, but it's really not hard to keep combos going in KH2. that's why RVs exist, because if they didn't you'd need one opening and then it'd be mashing X until they died.

I did one hit ko's cheat and just got done with it.

>>740877496 (OP)
It's memorization trash. The game does not reward you except when you attack in its programmed in intentional hitstun windows, because otherwise the bosses do not react to your attacks at all. The most skill expression you can show is counter timing mid-enemy combo for some chip damage, or minmaxing your uninterrupted combos with slightly more damage that might save you a single combo the entire fight.

Either that, or you cheese it with the game's awful balancing and spam fire magic with the dual claw form, or how some shotlocks completely ruin a handful of them. It's the type of unintentional design that isn't fun at all.

>>740881250
>getting lucky strike this late in the game
Must be a sword user.

>>740885223
They didn’t do the best job at that considering KH2’s biggest complaint was it being “mash X to win” upon release anyway.

>>740885514
sure but that's always going to be the case for the story content on normal right? it's a square action RPG, which means the mandatory content has to be balanced around casual play. Like there isn't one KH game that isn't
>mash attack to win
on the main path on normal. the ease of combo execution is this way entirely on purpose, to let casuals juggle regular enemies easily so they feel cool. so RVs are there to give bosses who can be combo'd a chance to escape and fight back, unless you know the cheese strats of course. the actual hard fights are basically always cordoned off to the optional bosses and harder modes.

>>740883848
Can't talk about Demyx and Xigbar because I haven't beaten them yet, but Vexen and especially Luxord were fun.
I'm not enjoying Demyx because I feel like I have to force myself to use ethers/elixirs to replenish MP and I want to do the fights itemless.

>>740887374
>Xigbar
meant to write Xaldin, mr R Burrito is cool.

will KH4 have any disney worlds?

>>740877496 (OP)
These fights are better outside of a few kino ones in 2 like Roxas

Yozora is also several times better than lingering will

>>740887550
yeah they leaked the worlds it's encanto, soul, turning red, luca, strange world, lightyear, wish, elio