/vm/ — /sm2g/ - Space Marine 2 General

Man why do I have such a hard time getting into this game?
It looks awesome, it's warhammer 40k, it's getting great support, feels good to play, etc yet I just can't get myself to play it after finishing the campaign.

What am I doing wrong?

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>>2557630 (OP)
New enemy units doko?

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I like the Sniper.

>Sniper is bad
Yes, but it's fun to blap venom cannon NIDDERS or incapping Rubrics harassing the boys

In a way, you take away the most obnoxious enemies so the bros can have fun

>Sniper has no team perks
Yeah I know but it's fun and I'm bored of tactical

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>>2557649
Literally anything. Just add literally anything new. Maybe a handful of a third faction.
>tfw you will never round a corner, hear the revving of a chain axe and BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
Khornate Berserkers that can parry YOU

>>2557676
>Tyranids
>Orkz
>Khorne
Literally the dream SM3

>Mindless horde (SCREEEEEEE)
>Mindless horde (WAAAAAGH YA GITZ GET DEM SPESS MUHREENS)
>Maybe intelligent horde (NYAHAHAHA WRBLRBLRBL BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD)

>>2557648
You literally just select the difficulty you're comfortable with and click random mission, or join the boys when a lobby is posted though you're probably going to get clowned on doing Absolutes, anons are happy to carry newfriends

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>>2557649
They've got so factions many to choose from. Chaos undivided would've been best if only for a wider selection of enemies they could put in SM3.
I'd love to see Ork boyz, and some Khorne dudes. Sprinkle a few units from other factions (maybe necron if they aren't too much like T'sons) like in pic related and we're golden/
>inb4 hurr durr this picture is shit because muh TT vs game balance
I don't have a better unit graph with minoris-terminus catergories, so calm your tits.

>>2557655
With release of heroic sniper rifle it became decent. If you can land those sick quickscope headshots. Basically if you can parry + headshot and gunstrike you'll go long way.

>>2557700
All my knowledge comes from first dawn of war game and two space marine games so i thought that necron warrior is like space marine in terms of power henceforth majoris..

>>2557700
Pic related is fine but could use a refresh otherwise, either add chaos undiv. like you mentioned or just Khorne.
My vote would also be for Orkz/Nids/Melee-oriented chaos. I've space dust pinatas fatigue.

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>>2557700
If anyone wanted to update it this is what Saber could entertain if they (hopefully) go with Khorne:
Minoris:
>Cultists
>Goremongers (flying cultists)
>Jakhals (berserker cultists)
>Flesh hounds
Majoris:
>Bloodletters
>Berzerkers
>Chaos spawn
Extremis:
>Exalted Eightbound
>Bloodcrusher
>Skull Cannon
Terminus:
>Helbrute (red)
>Defiler
>Lord on Juggernaut
Operation boss:
>Daemon Prince of Khorne
>Lord of Skulls
>Maulerfiend/Forgefiend

No more voiceless shells!

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Thread fortified

>>2557786
Good, Brother.

>>2557655
The fact that sniper can delete zoans, neuros and other flying cunts is a blessing and I will always welcome a good sniper in my team. I can deal with the brawlers better if I have a brother keeping the sky clean

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>>2557630 (OP)
It feels like we are too slow for /vg/, but too fast for /vm/. At least so soon after update
>>2557700
I think using Eldar as enemies would be a waste at best and at worst they would be really annoying to fight with their kiting bullshit.

Ideal SM3 would look like this
>All SM2 content gets ported, including all maps. I don't want to be forced to keep SM2 installed with map and enemy variety being arbitrarily locked to it, just like I don't need L4D when L4D2 exists.
>SM2 campaign is reworked so it works like Operations with classes and AI director
>SM3 campaign and Operations are one and this same and work like Operations
>Tyranids and TSons come back expanded similar to how Rats in VT2 came back expanded. At the very least make what should be easy additions like Screamer Killer and different versions of Carnifexes to fight. Or Von Ryan Leapers as new Majoris. Or Deathleaper as Terminus
>New enemy factions are Orks, Necrons and either Red Corsairs or Word Bearers for Undivided representation
>SM, CSM and eventually Eldar as playable factions
>SM and CSM have explicitly different classes and gear and aren't reskins of each other
>For loyalists lean into Primaris, yes. Get rid of those current weird classes. Let us select from Phobos, Tactics, Gravis and Terminator classes. Iron Halo, Jump Pack, Teleporter, Auspex etc are now selectable gear DoW2 style. Some restrictions still apply, no Cameleoline Cloak or Reiver hook for Gravis and Teminator obviously (but you can give them hook to pull enemies to them)
>CSM have Undivided Legionary and then God marked classes like Plague Marine with their own gear instead of 1:1 of Loyalist stuff.
>If Eldar are third playable faction, make their classes into Autarch, Warlock, Harlequin, Corsair Felarch.
>Replace with sidesteps and dodges and remove all rolling from Marine classes and give it to space elves instead, it fits them being space weebs after all.

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>>2557809
>Playing anything but space marines in a game called Space Marine 3

>>2557809
Nigger this isn't Eternal Crusade.
I'm still mad yes.

>>2557809
We are not too fast, the forces of the Imperium are just too overwhelming for this sector
Seriously though, there is no other option, /vg/ is a cesspit, over here we have a comfortable spot to do our thing without bothering anyone, it's all good

new to /sm2g/, how the hell did the previous thread reach 1.7k replies and is still only on page 8? it doesn't seem THAT active, and the other generals i browse reach 800-850 replies at best on page 10

>>2557915
We're still a general from /vg/ but don't have anywhere near the shitposting, ritualposting, waifufaggotry, autism, and content updates required to keep up with gacha games to compete, and rightfully so.

>>2557927
wait what the fuck, i swear i searched for "space marine" on /vg/
what the hell, how did i end up here

>>2557935
The Emperor guided your hand, Brother.

>>2557935
That's just Warp shenanigans, don't worry about it.

I swear they fixed Macragge Blue to the correct shade and did not tell anyone, am I seeing things

>Sunday
>6pm BST
>Go to try PvP for the first time in months
>Helbrute Onslaught
>Fucking nobody, stuck queuing with six other people for ten minutes before giving up
Jesus Christ why even bother supporting this mode?

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What perks for this? For vanguard

>>2557954
Nah they confirmed that they did change the color.

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>>2557935
Stop asking questions, pick up the shovel.

>>2557967
I must have missed it then, glad they did, finally my blueberries look proper without using other colors

>>2557954
>DoW had you pick colors manually back in the day
>Year of Our Lord 2026 and there's still no color slider in sight
Yeah, I know otherwise DLCs and paid drip-fed content wouldn't sell. It's still a shame tho. Same with emblems instead of emblem editor.
>but muh dicks and swastikas!
lol, i'd just laugh and shrug at the mushroom marine doing the salute

>be me, a few days back
>still grinding vanguard
>load into game with assault and heavy
>assualt is not prestiged
>watch him fly up in the air and then eat shit immediately twice

>>2557961
All anybody played is Helbrute mode and it sucks ass, because the moment someone decent gets on the Helbrute it's over, it snowballs out of control.

>>2557965
None, it's objectively worse than the carbine in every way

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>>2557832
>>2557840
Memes aside, I don't believe devs should slavishly stick to SM simply because trivial stuff like game title is Space Marine. Actual game would benefit greatly from more content and variety which in 40k comes from plethora of different factions it has, both to play as and to murder. To waste this potential because of a game title is downright insane and autistic to me. It was already annoying that first game didn't have Orks playable.

Actually, this game doesn't really feel like Space Marine game to me to begin with. This glass cannon playstyle with constant dodging and parrying enemy attacks is not at all what I imagine Space Marine fantasy should be. It looks as off as that older now Hours Heresy fananimation, Death of Hope. But it is EXACTLY how I image Eldar would fight. This game feels like an accidental Eldar game with a Space Marine skin on top.

Making Space Marines more tanky and focusing on Block weapons would be more fitting for marines imo. They should feel like aggressive, walking tanks. Make them shrug off enemy attacks and hit strongly in return. This is how they look in DoW2 imo and they look great there.
Eldar should be prancing around, rolling on ground, parrying and countering enemy attacks in swashbuckling style and hoping to not get hit instead

>>2557980
Assault requires to have hands to be played well, many random players fail this simple requirement

>>2557993
>Actually, this game doesn't really feel like Space Marine game to me to begin with. This glass cannon playstyle with constant dodging and parrying enemy attacks is not at all what I imagine Space Marine fantasy should be.
I agree, but i want them to stop being retarded and make an actual SM game.

>>2557961
Quick Match or bust. Picking modes specifically, even with enough players active, just dumps you in unfilled lobbies.

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are there any must get weapons you can get with the blue dorrito chips? The grenade launcher bolter combo seems alright, maybe one of the melee weapons?

>>2558110
Deathwatch Heavy Bolt Rifle
Argent Edge
Death's Grasp
White Scars Chainsword if you like Block
Wrapped Bolt Sniper Rifle
Heavy Plasma Incinerator (forgot the special name)

>Board gets 1 post a day
>You idiots still fuck up making threads

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>>2558149

>>2557992
Holy fuck, it's actually such a dogshit. I was better shooting with heavy bolt pistol.

Vanguard is in a such weak state.
There is no good primary. Melta have no ammo and a minute reload time, carbine is shit without kraken rounds, this thing is just dogshit.
Melee is purely reactive on power axe with barely enough damage to kill majoris.
Average lobby will prevent you from doing funny thing with chain grapple.

>>2558154
If steam allowed different nickname for different games that would be my nickname in this one.

>>2558154
>>2558167
I ran into a guy using that name a few days ago. He was quite possibly the worst player I've ever seen in any video game.

>>2558174
Roleplay requires dedication

>be me
>been playing since launch
>get bored but mostly frustrated with keybinds made by russians
>switch them so that they resemble something a human being would come up with
I love my Naga Pro but fuck how did default key settings made any sense? Is that a russian thing?

>>2558193
>cont'd because I'm tired as fuck and posted by accident
I like the new binding under my thumb but man is muscle memory a bitch. It will take some getting used to before I can comfortably use it. Thank God vatniks finally added training sim.

>>2558161
Also muscle memory after waving after first parry kills me.

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>ultramarine
>keeps pointing everywhere like he doesn't realize we have played the map before
>takes all the ammo after a desperate fight
>he's an assault
>takes the geneseed
>refuses to heal (he has two stimpacks)
>loses the sneed at the finishing line

>>2558262
>refuses to heal (he has two stimpacks)
I really do not understand this

>>2558294
If you double heal after going down, it'll clear your mortal wound. Stimming prior to this point is in most instances a waste unless there's a fuckton of enemies and you're sure nobody can get you up.

>>2558302
I know how this works. But I don't understand why are people so stingy with using it. I keep seeing people dying with medpacks all the time. They don't even heal themselves when they are on a mortal wound. It's absolutely puzzling behavior to me because it griefs the rest of a team

>>2558320
I might need it later really badly, so I better save it for that moment.

>>2557995
Not having the invulnerability prestige perk is just shit though
I don't blame him for it, it was literally
>press Q
>before he is able to land a carnifex/venom cannon starts an attack animation, charges up, and blasts him to pieces

Comfy absolute runs - EU

YDTK6

Come on in Brothers.

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>>2558387
Ultramarine gang calls to war

>>2558387
2/3

>>2558387
3/3

>>2558395
Give them hell Brothers, I will be with you in spirit