/vr/ — Name a better western programmer than Ed Boon. Mortal Kombat

Carmack, too easy. Though Boon is a bigger name for such a shitty genre (fighting games)

>>12626762 (OP)
all he ever programmed were mortal kombat games since the start of the 1990s (and no, we're not including pinball machines that he programmed in the 80s). basically any programmer that's done more than one series of game is better than this dude

>>12626762 (OP)
Is that Tom from myspace?

>>12626762 (OP)
You mean the cheating ai that makes the single player shit?

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>>12626787
I thought so too for a second

>>12626762 (OP)
The same Ed Boon that programmed the CPU to literally CHEAT? Ok.

>>12626762 (OP)
one of the biggest hacks in the industry

>>12626762 (OP)
Sawyer, Meier, Raynal

>>12626762 (OP)
Carmack.
Doom code is still a work of art.

Didn't the guy who made Rollercoaster Tycoon program the whole thing himself in assembly? I've only ever made games in Pico-8 so could someone explain to me, a literal retard, how Doom is more impressive than RT in this way?

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Demis Hassabis. At 17, he co-programmed Theme Park, then built the adaptive creature AI for Black & White. He later founded DeepMind, moving from game development to creating AlphaGo and AlphaFold.

John Carmack
Ken Silverman
Chris Sawyer

I don't even think Boon rates in the top 10 and he has admitted he hasn't touched code in any recent MKs

>>12626762 (OP)

He's most likely a good programmer but the really talented folks like Carmack, Silverman, Sweeney, Mathisen, Hecker and many others are way beyond his level.

Stil he was good enough to create a commercial product under time restraints - something most people will never be able to pull off.

>>12627023
this game is so comfy

>all this false flagging
we don't talk shit about Ed Boon here

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David Crane

>>12626762 (OP)
>mortal kombat 2 cpu is a work of art.
>cpu cheats all the time with reaction times higher then normal.
I kek.

>>12627023
This game has fucking nothing going on.

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>>12626787
>>12626813
Same, thought this was a shitpost from the thumbnail lol.

>>12626762 (OP)
Any kid who got a gold star on a gradeschool homework assignment.

>>12627895
Not only the reaction times, it also literally does shit that is impossible for a human player, like Liu Kang jumping, throwing an air fireball and then transitioning directly into a bicycle kick without his feet ever touching the ground or clipping through your throw to hit you with an uppercut, etc

>>12628413
Only gamers with big meaty cocks can play that game

>>12629048
Street Fighter II is just as bad, if not worse, with the walking charged moves and stopping a player's attack mid-animation to replace it when an enemy attack. There should seriously have been a class action lawsuit at some point. Their entire business model was based on fleecing children.

>>12629048
>i'm mad about tings youtube told me to be mad about
What a winner

>>12629649
The kids who played these games all knew and openly talked about how the games cheated. The youtube videos on it are just the confirmation.

My deepest desire is to make Ed Boon sit down on a chair and he's not allowed to get up until he beats the MK2 arcade ladder without using exploits.

>>12629704
I thought I was the only one.

>>12629660
None of these kids played these games

>>12629649
What a bizarre thing to say. I've literally witnessed it countless times, just play the fucking game against the CPU. These aren't rare occurrences.

>>12629704
>>12629726
This but he's also stripped naked and forced to sit in a bath full of ice water.

>>12626816
It's the Dominican way, gringo

>>12626762 (OP)
Dave Perry

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>>12626762 (OP)

Easy. Not only the best programmer but the best at all things games.

>>12630702
Cringe meme post and you'll never make me dislike Tommy.

>>12630719
>you'll never make me dislike Tommy

It wasn't intended to. Anyone who goes against gaming racists is OK in my book.

>>12629048
I remember hearing the ai in MK2 always counters throws. Even if they're in the dying "finish him" pose they'll counter your throw.

>>12626809
The input reading AI that pulls off moves that would be impossible for a human player to do, not because of reaction time, but because the game lets it cheat and do moves in less frames than required? Yeah, thats the one.

>>12629704
In my version I give them a full week to practice and git gud. Then the real game begins and each time they die or lose, they get smacked across the face. The smack isn't particularly hard but it's enough to make them play better to avoid further punishment. I cheer them on and even give them a high five when they do well but the very second they lose they get another smack. "That was pretty close, though!" I say as I rub my hand on my shirt.

>>12629704
>>12629726
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>>12631005
MK2's difficulty must've been mind bending at the time to hold this kind of grudge (probably doesn't help that it feels like you're being robbed)

>>12627416
OG goat

>>12627018
Assembly is not particularly difficult, it's just different. There was a period when 5th gen dev kits transitioned to C when programmers were reluctant to learn a higher level language because they were so used to assembly. You can see this in released source code comments and Sony BBS logs for example.

>>12631009
what the fuck is that supposed to mean

>>12631304
MK arcade games are the one fighting game I hear about having bullshit difficulty.

>>12631312
ain't no way

>>12631312
As mentioned, SFII could be just as bullshit in the later levels. MKII just goes straight into the bullshit in like the second fight.

>>12626762 (OP)
John Carmack is still relevent.
Ken Silverman made cool voxels but he gave up long ago.

>>12631637

Carmack has been a "researchbro" for many years now similar to Abrash.
As much as I adore Carmack, Silverman still has some nostalgia for the 90ies and bleeding edge development - that makes him a bit more "human" to me.

>>12631703

Did some really cool stuff - big props.

>>12626762 (OP)
>Mortal Kombat 2 AI is a work of art.
I guess input reading is a art.

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>>12626784
fpbp

>>12626784
just checked to see if this is the first reply. carry on gentlemen.

>voiced Scorpion in the first MK games
He's also one of the most iconic vidya voice actors if you think about it

>>12631703
Mechner was also another OG Goat

>>12631446
that's an exaggeration

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>>12627895
>>12629048
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>>12630910
oh you children, if you think the AI in those games is bad, wait until you play Virtua Fighter 2.

Am i dreaming or no one has mentioned andy gavin ?

>>12626762 (OP)
Lmao just say American. It's mostly them who made the accomplishment early on when they cared. And saying western at all outs you as an esl foreigner.

>>12634467
Just go back to your Nintendo games, toddler. You have no idea about 1980's British programmers.