/vr/ — The C64 won, it's the best 8-bit home computer by far.

>C64 now has excellent ports of Neo-Geo games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4mETVwSLek

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It has Sonic and Mario.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFBj6PfrnMk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjvaWc5re5Y

>>12630817 (OP)
A shame about the power supply and PLA chip cooking themselves

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>>12631004
Speckie has the same issue with the PSU. Sinclair's Ferranti PLA seemed to be the best part of the whole computer.

C64 did fast shooters better than Nintendo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34mnRVmM_uo

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>>12630817 (OP)
So you're saying it's a shovelware platform to stay away from, like Steam
ok

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>>12631071
99% of all games on all systems are garbage, that's the problem with low-release systems. N64 has like three or four really good unique games. It's simply a numbers game.

With a quarter million games released so far, the C64 has the numbers to be able to make a top entry for any type of game. Heck I prefer King's Bounty to HOMM. It's literally the same game. Rebelstar is just as good as XCOM. Etc.

Just to put it in perspective - there have been more new C64 releases this week, than the Playstatino 5 has had exclusives since it came out in 2020. Just counting since Sunday.

>>12631004
>>12631071
>lolcow gets shit on

>>12631078
because c64 is chad computer for chads.

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>>12630817 (OP)
>best 8-bit home computer
>best graphics plus sound
That'd be the MSX2 and it's not even close. Largely unknown outside a few select countries, though.

>>12631068
I love that game but its dangerous, the insane levels of flashing could probably kill someone by epileptic fit

>>12631068
You obviously aren't familiar with the Famicom library.
https://youtu.be/jvD-s1n4i9E

the C64s most impressive shooter is Armalyte, its gorgeous and flawlessly executed.
https://youtu.be/pXfq5PDt2aE?si=6HmfzsXJ2isjbydf

>>12631078
thats because you can write a C64 in a month and only need 2 people.

>thread about C64 appears on /vr/
>lemon64 mysteriously goes down
Really interesting.

>>12631483
site is hosted by a retard. he doesn't understand how you can have a production site and a live site so he takes the entire server offline to do updates. this is better than the last update regime where they never updated at all and got hacked

>>12631068
that is crazy, never knew it was that complex

no one cares about the Homobore 64

>>12631071

kek - nice "mod"

The only 8 bit computer where loading stuff last longer than the games themselves. Good job.

>>12631350
I just realized the MSX2 is practically a Master System but without horizontal hardware scrolling

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>>12632639
Somewhat. The MSX2 had much higher res & RAM + VRAM but slightly worse hardware sprites. The audio (slightly different built-in PSGs + the same FM synth as an addon) was largely equivalent. Same CPU.
The MSX2+ added horizontal hardware scrolling.

Pretty neat machine, one of my cousins had one when I was a kid.

>>12631073
Wait a minute... Rebelstar... C-64?

>>12632669
Yes. Try it out.

>>12632750
nta but I don't think Rebelstar was on the 64, maybe you're mixing it up with Laser Squad?

>>12632885
You are indeed correct. My mistake!

>>12632903
np, I had to look it up myself because I wasn't sure. Both Rebelstar and Laser Squad were great.

>>12632946
I am still tuned into King's Bounty, it's literally the same exact game as HOMM, I would even say the smaller number of units and other things, make it more balanced.

New games came out today for C64. Can't say that about most retro systems. Or the PS5 for that matter - HAH!

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>>12635081
Wew

>>12635235
>there are 24 (twenty four) PS5 games that are exclusive to the system, that have come out since 2020 when the PS5 was introduced
>today, there were twice as many C64 programs released than the entire PS5 exclusive catalog since 2020
ouch, C64 is sweeping all generations at this point

>>12631350
MSX was a good system but neither the graphics or sound are ahead of the C64. Especially in the original configuration.

>>12630817 (OP)
The TI-994/a won. The C64 is nothing more than a baby toy.

>>12635290
TI was based. If only they supported developers, who knows who would have won the computer wars. It was a 16-bit system back in the 8-bit days. Very cool stuff, flopped hard as FUCK and Commodore killed them.

>>12631350
C64 was far more influential.

>better sound
Are you fucking retarded? The SIDS chip in the C64 blows the MSX2's standard Yamaha sound chip out of the fucking water.

>>12635328
Technically TI started the price war, not Commodore.

>>12635350
Yes TI was very sneaky in those days, they did HP dirty too.

>>12635328
Piece of shit was a 16-bit computer that could hardly compete with 8-bit contemporaries and was significantly more expensive to produce. Intellivision also had a 16-bit CPU that never saw any use again because it was just too damn early for widespread adoption of 16-bit machines.

>>12635372
The computer wasn't the problem actually, it was all TI and the fact they wouldn't let third parties develop for it, they wouldn't give out info about how it all worked, etc. Oh sure when they were getting killed right near the end they tried to open it up.

Shame really, it was a good CPU and arch for the time.

>>12635328
>>12635372
>>12635407
DRAM modules of the time only had 1-bit pointers. That means 8-bit CPUs only needed 8 RAM chips, while 16-bit CPUs needed 16 RAM chips. That's why 16-bit CPUs were avoided like a plague unless the performance or IBM compatibility justifies it.

>>12635413
Is this why the Intel 8088 had an 8-bit data bus despite being a 16-bit CPU?

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>>12632226
>too stupid to use a software fastloader
>too poor to buy a fastloader cart
>lolcow doesn't know that most commercial games had fastload routines
Good job, dumb retard lolcow

>>12635290
>The TI-994/a won.
won so hard that ti sold very few of them, caused them many millions of dollars in losses and forced TI completely out of the computer market. that's winning, is it?

>>12635407
>Shame really, it was a good CPU and arch for the time.
it was great (and the first 16bit cpu chip i think) until the m68k was released and everyone abandoned TI processors until they shat out the TMS34010. absolute chad of a chip.

>>12635662
>t. Assmad Pee64 fan
Cope and seethe tranny. Commodore lost.

>>12631068
https://youtu.be/gBdVV_BCZoA?t=3459

>>12631058
'ate c64
luv me speccy
simple as

LOAD"*",8,1

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>STILL no retroachievements
>RA devs STILL obsessing over TENDIE SHOVELWARE
>STILL no release date of ANY KIND for C64 RA