/vrpg/ — Does it get better?

>>3968568 (OP)
Rogue Trader is ok in this regard with more bespoke encounters, if still having rather simplistic encounter design, the PF games are both complete, bloated dogshit.

>>3968568 (OP)
>100 hours
>chapter 2 or 3
What?

>>3968568 (OP)
a)Not all combats need to be done in turn based
b)Even in turn based, precise control helps deal with fights pretty fast past early chapter 1.
c)Whatever the fuck you are doing (mouthing every word, clicking on every pixel, drawing everything on graph paper), it extends your playtime 3 times the average.
Yes, the games have filler combat, pacing issues etc, but eve a first time playthrough slowly can be FINISHED in 100 ours.

Better drop out of these games

>>3968580
He's playing turn-based.

>>3968580
I'm on season of bloom quest (find and explore the womb of lamashtu)

>>3968587
Yes, so do I.
From the moment the mod introduced it.
It's still absurd to have 100 horus and be barely at the middle. That's 'let me ask chatgpt what to do every turn' territory.

>>3968586
I mean i'm just trying to do all the side content I can and get the most out of the game bit it still feels like never ending battle after battle. I admit i'm probably a little slower than the average gamer and it takes me some time to get through it, but i'm playing on 2x speed and it still feels like its not enough.

As for "these games" Larian or even old Bioware doesnt have these problems at all. Bg1, 2, 3 all had great combat pacing compared to Kingmaker. Theres really no excuse for Owlcat. I'm slow but i'm not retarded. This game is overstuffed to an insane extent.

>>3968596
The game is overstuffed and weirdly paced (though mostly for the latter half), but if you are playing with 2x speed for animations and you are 100 hours in and barely 50% done, you are fucking slow to an outlier extent.
Kingmaker has issues, and whatever the fuck you are doing exacerbates them to the nth degree.
Better drop it and Owlcat, this is not a game you should push through till you are retired on this pace

Are there any mods for replacing the nig characters?

>>3968600
The one black character you do not even have to recruit? No.

>>3968602
I just want to be able to play that paladin wthout looking at a nig pfp and hearing a nig voice.

>>3968612
Wrong game.

Got bored and never finished it. Started doing the castle stuff and some companion quests and was just not in to it.

>>3968568 (OP)
>everything about the game is really quite good
Yeah, it's definitely a masterpiece.
>there's just one thing thats kind of ruining the entire experience and is tempting me to drop the game and Owlcat as a whole forever
... uh...??? Have you spoken with your therapist about your complete lack of emotional regulation or self control?
>Does the filler combat ever let up?
What do you define as filler combat? Should the combat consist of nothing but the boss and literally nothing else?
>Maybe it's because i'm playing turn based with a controller(pc)
A controller? For a PC game? An RPG that specifically assumes you're playing it on a PC??? Why would you fucking do that? Like... WHY???
>it feels like i'm fucking drowning in combat all the fucking time. I'm playing on challenging and it kind of feels fucking ridiculous at this point and the pacing is completely fucked by virtue of constant never ending battle at all fucking times.
Have you... have you tried talking to anyone? Have you tried reading the dialogues? Have you tried managing your kingdom or traveling between areas to talk to the artisans or do any quests? Have you talked to your companions at all? The combat doesn't even take a minute per encounter. If you can't spare 60 seconds to do a little combat in a small-group-tactics tactical RPG... maybe talk to your therapist about getting screened for some kind of underlying neurological abnormality.
>Are all the Owlcat games like this?
No? Though the three made so far are small-group-tactical-combat RPGs. I just don't think the combats are anything remotely egregious.
> I already bought all of them because I heard they were on par with Larian.
Owlcat is far better than Larian. In literally every respect. I find your attempt to compare them rather disturbing.

>>3968593
Agreed. There's something the OP is not telling us. There's just no way any of this shit makes any sense. Their story is not adding up, and I'm suspicious that he's telling some lies in order to stir up some shit with misinformation.

>>3968568 (OP)
If you're talking about the random encounters while traveling on the overland map, that's a Stealth skill issue. During camping, you select a party member who is doing the Stealth check to conceal your camp. That slot is also used to determine whether you evade random encounters.
You obviously want to put a party member with a very high Stealth skill check in that slot. If you succeed on the Stealth checks, then you can choose to just evade random encounters and you won't get ambushed while you're camping. All of this is explained in-game, too, by the way.

>>3968676
>misinformation

>>3968675

>Have you... have you tried talking to anyone? Have you tried reading the dialogues? Have you tried managing your kingdom or traveling between areas to talk to the artisans or do any quests? Have you talked to your companions at all? The combat doesn't even take a minute per encounter. If you can't spare 60 seconds to do a little combat in a small-group-tactics tactical RPG... maybe talk to your therapist about getting screened for some kind of underlying neurological abnormality.

Yes I've done all those things, yes i'm very through with side content and dialogue and yes I do have an underlying neurological abnormality

>The combat doesnt take longer than a minute

This is just not my experience at all. Again maybe its because i'm playing turn based with a controller but.... in the womb of Lamashtu cave in the "season of bloom" quest I just did like 4 encounters back to back of 6-10 mystical giant spiders each enchanted with blur. I guess I i'm not running blind fight so fuck me I guess? Each encounter was probably 5 -7 mins. And thats just the first flour of the cave. I could speed it up by playing braindead and just spam rests and rations but it kind of takes the fun out of the game not playing to my utmost every battle. Like my life is genuinely on the line.

>A controller? For a PC game? An RPG that specifically assumes you're playing it on a PC??? Why would you fucking do that? Like... WHY???

This game is ported to console anon, it has proper controller UI configuration. The controller actually feels pretty smooth and I doubt its the issue here, though maybe. I can snap through the abilities and menus pretty fast. Controller has always been more instinctive to me then M+KB.

>>3968676
Damn near everything I told you is true. My palm is open and i'm not holding anything back. The only mistakes or "misinformation" is that its probably more like 90 hours instead of 100. (5 hrs first character, 5 hours idle time if I had to guess )

>>3968678
No thats not the issue I rarely get into overland battles. Its like every cave or area I go to the process is the exact same.

>go to interesting new area
>explore
>walk 5 feet
>combat encounter
>walk 5 more feet
>combat encounter

Basically run this loop for 35-40 mins through an area with 1 maybe* 2 instances of

>unique npc dialogue with something interesting happening

That usually lasts 15- 25 seconds as the dialogue is pretty short in this game.

Im actually being pretty fucking generous. I'm pretty sure I waded through damn near 1 1/2 to 2 hours of trolls get to the tartuk and the troll chief boss at the end of that troll lair level. All for for maybe 25 seconds of diologue at the end (and i'm a slow reader, like fucking extremely slow). It was fucking ridicously disporporportionate in terms of build up and pay off.

>>3968902
The peak of the troll quest was playing a paladin and picking the [LAWFUL GOOD] “I’m Johnny from Buenos Aires and I say kill ‘em all” option

>>3968893
>yes I do have an underlying neurological abnormality
And there it is.
Ok. Yeah, we knew that already, but we just wanted you to directly confront it out in the open.
Your disability might or might not be your fault, but it's no one else's responsibility. Go manage your whatever on your own. It's not our responsibility to make you have fun. We don't have to convince or persuade you about anything. Go deal with your shit, anon.

>>3968893
True Seeing negates Blur and Displacement. At that character level, you should be casting Communal True Seeing from a Cleric or Wizard. Blur / Displacement / Mirror Image is a crucial defensive layer for enemies in the game, and Fey-associated creatures in particular.
By that time in the game, you've seen these defenses frequently and you've seen what it means. You have had 100 hours in which to consider what feats you're buying. You've had plenty of time, warning and information to consider picking up Blind Fight feats. And to learn about See Invisibility and True Seeing spells. That's all entirely on YOU and YOUR decisions.
Those spider encounters in that part of the plot should not take more than a single round. By that character level, trash fights don't generally require all of your characters to even take actions. Even the uber bosses don't last more than three rounds.
So, apparently, you have somehow spent 100 hours doing.... what, exactly???? Because it sure was not fucking playing the game. It's just not fucking possible to spend that much time in the game and somehow not know how literally basic shit works. Blur is a level 2 spell, anon.

>>3969031
I mean yes I have a disability but that doesnt negate my general position is any logical sense. To suggest that my critique is invalid on the basis of my being disabled is fallacy anon. Come on now. Your using like a front page textbook fallacy.

>You are blank
>So your argument is invalid

Uhhhh

>>3969055
The fact that you play with 2x speed for animations and have played through 4/10ths of the game at the same time people finish it is indicative of issues, not your critique.

And regardless of quality , there is no need to push through if you feel fatigue/fed up with filler in the better paced half of the game

>>3968580
Given how many times I restarted the first couple chapters before I was happy with my character and choices sounds about right.

>>3969034
I know what blur does, I just idk mann. I'm using a meta guide for my magus build, blind fight just wasnt recommended until a later level. Its like yea I can cast true seeing with my wizard but my understanding that only they* will be able to see through blur not the other characters that really do heavy damage. Its like yea I'm gonna cast true seeing with the that betacuck cleric and hes gonna dps smoke those spiders down like hes a fucking pally wally like what the fuck are you even saying anon? Thats ridiculous at that point I may as well just roll the D5 and blitz crank through blur until I hack them down with my damage dealers and leave my cleric and wizard to haste/slow add damage roll buffs.

How the fuck would you even use true seeing and smoke the enemies down in a single round? That makes no fucking sense. That would require two rounds minimum even by your own example...?

>>3969055
>I mean yes I have a disability but that doesnt negate my general position is any logical sense.
Yes it does. You're the only one having all the issues you're describing. Everyone else in the thread is stunned and amazed and bewildered about how you can be having the experience you're claiming you have.
The problem is definitely you. Not the game.

>>3969062
True Seeing can be cast on other characters. See Invisibility is self-only. Communal See Invisibility and Communal True Seeing cast the spell on all allies in the radius. Anyone who has the buff running on them gains the benefits.
I don't know how you don't understand this, it's pretty simple and obvious stuff. The spells themselves are very very very clear about all of this in great detail. It's literally right there in the game. Read stuff, dude.
>that betacuck cleric
Spend less time on terminally-online YouTuber bullshit jargon. Spend more time actually fucking reading shit. You sound like a particularly retarded ten year old. And you probably are one.
>How the fuck would you even use true seeing and smoke the enemies down in a single round?
...
Anon. Cast True Seeing on your warriors. Put it on Ekun and stand back to avoid the splatter. While they have True Seeing running, Blur and Displacement and Mirror Image do not apply against their attacks. Ekun with True Seeing will land every attack as long as the die doesn't land on a natural 1 which is only a 5% chance on each roll. How is this so complicated for you? How have you spent 100 hours in the game and you don't know this shit?
At this point you need to actually convince us that you have played the game. Tell us something that you couldn't have learned by reading a wiki somewhere.

All my homies live in Echolocation from an alchemist. True Seeing is old shit

>>3969082
Uhhh I could just send you a screenshot of my time played. Is that enough? Idk the bipolar split personality tiefling bitch is best girl?

I actually never used the term betacuck until someone called me that IRL at DnD last week. I'm 25.

>>3969151
God, it just keeps getting worse and worse every time you reply. Fucking stop.

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>>3969155
I'm deadass right now

>>3969189
ON GOD?! FR FR?! NO CAP?! OMG R U SRS RN?! SKULL EMOJI CRYING EMOJI!!!!!!!!``1`1`1~!!~!~1!~!!~!1~!

>>3969189
You took.... a photo.... with your phone... of your computer's monitor...

...

dot fucking dot dot.

>>3969213
My computer is hooked up to a tv. I'm accessing 4chan through my android. I'm not going to share my steam username and I'm not in the mood to hunt down this thread on pc and crop a photo just so I can post a proper screenshot in this thread so yes.... i'm going to speedmaxx and take a 7 second photo of my tv get over it and yourself.

>>3969213
What, do you people not have phones or something?

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>>3969275
Correct, I don't have a phone but my keyboard has a 'PrtSc' key.

>>3969320
Ahhh but if you were paying attention you would know I play with a controller and pc is connected to a... thats right TV. Which means by deduction in all likelihood i'm lounging back with a controller away* from my keyboard hence the optimum speedmax route is still that right... a 7 second picture versus the time to get up walk across my room to keyboard open this godforsaken website on Firefox and then hit the prt scrn key yea no thank you and fuck off

>>3969356
Guide + RT

>>3969356
>I play with a controller
>this godforsaken website

>>3968568 (OP)

It´s like playing golf anon. The objective of the game is to play the less possible amount of it. Basically just fill everyone with steroids and end the fights on the first turn.

>>3969362
Still have to crop and open 4chan lmao u r such a bad faith actor spitting image of this website

>>3968568 (OP)
Battles are boring.

>>3968612
There's mods for that. Seelah becomes Seelie, and I think the voice is modded too. Nig to ginger route.

>>3968568 (OP)
If anything it gets worse in the late game. I'm a certified owlcat hater just because of this game

>>3969786
The opposite of love is not hate. It's apathy. It'd be easier for you to just ignore Owlcat. Instead, you're here because you literally just can't stop yourself from interacting. You do care about Owlcat and their games.

>>3969808
You are severely mentally ill.

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>>3969818
ooooo you big mad

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>>3969818
Reaching isn't a mental illness, kiddo, let alone severe. It's just awkward.

>>3969808
do owlcattle really have such a fragile egos?

>>3969893
You're the one throwing a tantrum because you can't handle that people enjoy something you claim you hate. Just leave the thread, dude. It'd be easy for you to just leave. It requires effort and choice for you to keep being here spamming the thread. No one is convinced by your crying.

>>3969895
that was my first post though

>>3969895
Yea i'm the OP and I didnt make that post your responding to.

ASS U ME

>>3970041
We already knew you were both dumb cunts, but what do you think you're accomplishing?

>>3970172
Are you hoping your Owlcat waifu will come to life and be your gf if you shill for them enough?

>>3968568 (OP)
Wrath is even worse.

>>3970172
>gets questioned if has a fragile ego
>proceeds to show he has a fragile ego
like clockwork

>>3970873
You're being mocked.

>>3970175
Why are you here? You can't stand the thought that anyone likes something you don't like? Why? Why does it matter so much to you that people are having fun playing this game? Why are you so upset that it's regarded so highly? Why does it matter to YOU?