/vrpg/ — Xeno thread

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>>3977348 (OP)
>Sea edition
I love the sea!

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1.5 months till the new xeno is revealed

Xenogears a shit

>>3977348 (OP)
I got like 15 hours through Xenosaga. No offence but it is an awful game.
It is an incredibly slow, ugly (and this isn't a "oh it's a 20 year old game" thing, it was ugly in 2002 when it came out), unfun, and tedious game that feels like it was shipped out half a year before it should have with how unfinished every single aspect of it feels like.

>>3977419
XS2 is like that too. You gotta put up with it (or just watch on youtube) if you want to get to XS3 though

>>3977384
How do you know this

>>3977437
switch 1 xenoblade reveal/release cadence

>>3977437
He had a vision

>>3977419
idk i think it looked pretty good emulated in 4k
also the gameplay gets interesting only in the latter half, if not the latter quarter depending on whether you read up how to navigate the system

>>3977420
nah xs2 is way worse
XS3 is the best one though yeah, it sucks they had to basically give up on their original ideas and going back to the tried and true final fantasy formula. Like i still think XS1 has a pretty cool system all things considered, and XS2 main fault is that they completely forgot about aoe attacks so mob fights are a ballbusting drag, but boss fights can be cool (if you make peace with having to waste the first few turns just boosting, which yeah could be done better)

>>3977437
uncle works for nintendo

Damn I was wondering about all the rushed disc 2 comments and now im finally here. They really wasted all their dev time making shit tournament arcs for disc 1 instead of focusing on the actual story which is in disc 2

>>3977616
Enjoy the Powerpoint presentation! And definitely enjoy the CBT final dungeon!

>>3977643
PowerPoint when disc 2 has 4 dungeons?>>3977616
We don't know how development went

The chair arc is absolute kino

>>3977709
>toilet
This game is a bowel movement

>>3977384
Don't care unless they finally stop pumping out shit and make good games again.

>>3977787
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FL1lwTmZdiA
Here’s your remake and it’s only chances

>>3977790
Awful AI gen and of course they had to imagine it as open world slop.

>>3977643
I mean im enjoying the story a lot more than in disc 1, imagine what could've been
>>3977687
Regardless a remake should cut out a lot of the garbage in the 1st half of disc 1, and flesh out the 2nd, which is what they should've thought about in the 1st place

>>3977815
That isn’t even vaguely close to any locations in Gears

>>3977830
Yeah, because it's AI generated shit.

>>3977836
Proves that even at its most refined, it fails.

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massive damage, hehe

>>3977787
they did that starting with xenoblade 1

>>3978428
Could've fooled me. Xenoblade 1 was shit.

>>3978258
What GPU are you using? That whole area is fucked on my budget GPU. Was planning on upgrading at some point but been putting it off for years now.

>>3978622
RX 7600 with Vulkan high accuracy on Loonix & latest Eden git. It uses about 40-50W out of 145W TDP on the GPU so you don't really need high end hardware.
I was wrong when posting about how to upscale without graphics going haywire in the previous thread. The "2x Super Sampling" mod was consistently shitting the bed after I cleared my shader cache for autistic reasons just after posting. "2K - xc3-friends - v2" used in this new screenshot works much better but I still had one vertex explosion at the end of a dialog scene transitioning back into party controlled gameplay within ~10 hours of playtime. It's usually one of the character models spazzing out and can sometimes be fixed by changing costumes and teleporting around the map without having to resort to restarting emulation.
I don't think it's the GPU specifically but the Vulkan renderer in yuzu based emulators having problems with specific combinations of settings and mods when there's no cached shader available. Disabling async shader compilation however didn't fix it and the vertex explosions are probably related to async presentation which wasn't a user setting in Eden until recently (it was a setting in yuzu and then was removed before the forking iirc). Disabling async presentation however slows shit down way too much.
Use "2K - xc3-friends - v2", quicksave often so you can restart the emulator in case a cutscene blows up and hope for the best.

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I stood up and clapped.

>>3978807
>AI gets good enough someone shits out a remake of it
Will you play it?

Finally finished gears. Great game. My tier list is now
>S tier: blade 1
>A tier: gears, saga 1, blade 2, blade x
>D tier: blade 3
Im curious how bad saga 2 really is. So far that intro with chaos and canaan has been awesome

>>3979271
Episode 2 has some of the best and interesting cutscenes, its just the gameplay that holds it back.

HOLY SHIT MY SIDES

*Major XBC3 spoilers*

>>3979603
This breakdown was, dare I say it.....golden.

>>3979608
>man who was cucked to death

>>3979646
>>3979608
>>3979603
What is it with Takahashi and cuckshit, man

>>3979271
saga 2 only two issues are the character design (which they changed back in saga 3) and the gameplay, and even then the gameplay is not unsalvageable, it just needed some more time to fix some clear "we didn't have time to playtest it" issues.
And i guess there's a third optional issue, which is that all characters can potentially unlock every ability in the game if you grind points, iirc they all start out with different ones unlocked but ultimately they all have the same "skill tree"

>>3979603

And still better than any Xeno game before except Episode III

>>3979271
Episode I and X are E and Episode II is F

>Graphics:
BladeX=Blade2=Blade3 > Saga3 > Blade1 > Saga2 > Saga1 >> Gears
>Character Design:
Gears > Saga3 > Blade3 > Blade1 > BladeX > Saga1=Saga2=Blade2
>Mecha Design:
Saga3=Saga2 > Blade3 > Gears > Blade1 > Saga1=Blade2 > BladeX
>Exploration:
BladeX > Blade2 > Blade1 > Blade3 > Gears > Saga3 > Saga1=Saga2
>Combat:
Gears=Saga1=Saga2=Saga3=Blade1=Blade2 > Blade3 > BladeX
>Story (potential):
Saga > Gears >> BladeX > Blade1 = Blade2 = Blade3
>Story (actual):
Gears > Blade1 > Blade2 > Blade3 > Saga >> BladeX
>Characters:
Saga > Gears > Blade2 > Blade3 > Blade1 > BladeX

>OVERALL:
Blade1 > Gears > Blade2 > Saga3=Blade3 > Blade X > Saga1 > Saga2

>>3977815
>OW is... le BAD
Fuck off, Xenogears' story coupled with Xenoblade X's open-world would be the single best videogame ever made in human history, and by a huge margin
(as long as they don't make it AIslop of course)

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>>3979836
>Graphics
>Gears that low
Gears has some of the best spritwork from that generation, animation wise. Wish I had made some webms when I first played Gears.

>>3979653
Sora ruined his original idea

>>3979842
Xenogears a shit

>>3979836
>saga 1's AWGS not at the absolute bottom of mecha design
>XCX at the bottom
oh shit what are you doing

>>3979603
Glad you enjoyed it. But after this, the story sadly hit its lowest point.

>>3979842
Because nothing is more thrilling than spending hours trudging across empty landscape. It wouldn't be as bad if there was actually stuff to do in the open world, but Xenoblade repeatedly fails on that front.

wise man once say Xenogears a shit

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I swear this game makes me hate flutes with a passion.

>>3980504
Fweeeeeee

>>3980504
I love the flutes, especially when it's used in battle themes like Moebius M and Keves Battle

>>3980332
There has never been a good open world.

>>3981066
All the more reason why Monolith Soft needs to abandon it and focus more on returning to gameplay that's actually good and writing that isn't shit. Stop building big empty spaces and fix the real problems with Xenoblade.

>>3980332
>Because nothing is more thrilling than spending hours trudging across empty landscape.
Ah yes, I suppose it's much more thrilling spending them blankly staring at black screens as you transition from one copy-pasted corridor to another.

>It wouldn't be as bad if there was actually stuff to do in the open world, but Xenoblade repeatedly fails on that front.
Play the fucking games before talking. There is literally no videogame in existence that is more densely packed with stuff to do than Xenoblade Chronicles X. Even the fucking desert area has more stuff in it than an average area from an average non-ow game.

>There has never been a good open world.
True, but that's entirely because developers think as long as they have a good OW, they can safely dismiss anything else. Open world games are mediocre *DESPITE* being ow, never *because* of it.

>All the more reason why Monolith Soft needs to abandon it
They already abandoned it in 2, and guess what? It was a huge step backwards. There are much more "empty" places in 2 and 3 than there are in X.

>Stop building big empty spaces and fix the real problems with Xenoblade.
The open world was literally the only redeeming factor about Xenoblade Chronicles X. If you took it out, you wouldn't fix anything, on the contrary you would only turn it from mediocre to downright garbage.

>>3981215
>True, but that's entirely because
(meant for >>3981066)
>They already abandoned it
>The open world was
(meant for >>3981118)

>>3981215
>Play the fucking games before talking.
I've played three of them. I made it through 9 chapters of X before dropping it because I was bored out of my skull. The only thing to do in that open world was kill shit and place probes and the combat fucking sucked ass. They need to drop the MMO-styled garbage and learn to write a real fucking story again.

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>>3980972

I just started xenogears and played about 6 hours, you faggots are completely retarded. it truly isn't a game, the areas are like 3 rooms with no geometry that are only difficult to navigate because of the fucking retarded camera. what the fuck am I playing? are there actual areas in this game?