/vrpg/ — Undertale/Deltarune Fangames

>>3996741 (OP)
Friendly reminder to STOP COMING TO /v/ to spam your weekly raid threads.

>>3996742
>ignores the 57 other "raid" threads on /v/ that meet his arbitrary criteria
I'm nooticing

What are your opinions on doing writer self-inserts in a story/game?
Do you like/hate it? How would you go around by doing it? Is it okay to feature a Character based on your life experiences, or is it too self-inserty? Would you do it in your fangame/game? Share your thoughts

>>3996753
If the character is well made enough and fits the setting so well where people can't immediately tell it is your self insert, I say it is fine

>>3996741 (OP)
Didn't get a chance to say thanks to the anons who gave some recs. Thread got archived. So thanks. Downloaded DTY and Naranja. Gonna take a look in a sec.
Anything else to recommend or have I already received my daily allotment of spoonfeeding?

>>3996761
Those two are pretty much the only games from here that have some content in them, unless you are looking for other fangame recommendations from gamejolt
If so it depends if you want full fangames or single battle ones

>>3996761
Check out Deltarune SOULblazers as well, if you want more mantle type gameplay.

>>3996753
>>3996754

Do you prefer self-inserts that stay purely as an easter egg (Annoying dog), or the ones that play a role in the story (Kris)

>>3996762
Let me level with you. When I asked for recommendations originally. I wasn't even sure if this thread had any fangames of their own.
I just wanted to play some fangames. And was curious what everyone here liked, or thought worth having an opinion on, good or bad.
>>3996765
I'll take a look. I had Dragon Blazers stuck in my head for a while before Chapter 3 came out, trying to figure out how it connected to everything.
And then Chapter 3 came out and well.

>>3996753
I think its good to base characters off of your own experience. You just need to remember that these are characters, and not you. You have to be able to paint them in unfavorable lights if the narrative calls for it, and you need to be able to hurt them as well. I think if you've written your story well, both you and the reader should be able (key word is able, not required to) self insert into basically any of the characters purely through human empathy alone. That is unless you're intentionally trying to make the character alien or unsympathetic.

That said, I think most of the time having a character that is a self insert, or doing it so much with a particular character is a bad move. It drags down the story and ruins the readers enjoyment. You can self insert a little in every character, just make sure they're still distinct enough from you that no one thinks they're just you wearing a wig.

The sole exception to this is gags in visual mediums. Putting yourself or your self insert in the backgroung as a gag is generally fine as long as it doesn't go beyond a gag or cameo in importance. Like Toriyama occasionally having his little robot guy appear in crowds. In the case of Undertale, I think copying Toby's white dog is a little tactless. It looks too much like putting yourself in his place. Have your own character doing its own thing. And of course, don't make it important.

>>3996753
>What are your opinions on doing writer self-inserts in a story/game?
I think its fine as long as its not overdone, sometimes they make it too obvious how much a character is a self insert.
>Is it okay to feature a Character based on your life experiences, or is it too self-inserty?
This is something all authors do to a certain extent, its normal to want to include characters with stories that resonate with yours, writers write what they know, and naturally they know a lot about themselves, I think it would only be a problem if the character has exactly the same story as the author and not something inspired by it, that's when it starts to feel to much like a self insert fantasy.
>Would you do it in your fangame/game?
Already did.

>>3996761
If you like VNs, Childhood's End is pretty good. Its not very long though. Mantle NES is also pretty neat.

>>3996775
The fangame doesn't have anything to do with dragon blazers, though? We still don't know how would it look.

Mantle is not actually supposed to be dragon blazers, as far as I can remember. And Dragon blazers is just an allegory for Deltarune, I don't think it goes any deeper than that.

>>3996775
>>3996761
Okay so here are some of (IMO) best fangames currently out there:
>Scampton the Great (single fight spamtom AU)
>One Hell of a Show (single fight mettaton AU)
>TS!Underswap (swap AU, has 2 big segments so far, well polished)
>The Upper Hand (single fight DR battle, from same guy that made scampton)

Games that have demos that I think are good/have potential:
>UT Wildfire (only has a combat demo with a single fight and a few screens)
>UT promise (blue soul fangame, set before the events of UTY)
>Cooking with Kindness (green fangame with cooking mechanics)

>>3996775
If you want to play some laughably bad garbage, you can check out Undertale Green (the one with the blond kid named Cody) and Deltatraveler (the old version before they walked back section 3). Those are both really bad in a funny way. The gameplay is actually alright in Deltatraveler and it has good music, but the writing is genuinely some of the worst I've seen.


If you only want good games, there's Undertale Wildfire, which has a two fight combat demo out, and Undertale Red, which is one of the first Undertale fangames ever made, and is also really good (don't confuse it with Red and Yellow, which is a different thing, and not very good)

>>3996784
Oh also these that I just remembered:
>A different Snowgrave (single fight noelle vs giga spamton)
>DR Frostveil (potential chapter 5 weird route)
>Lost Deltarune (creepypasta like DR world post roaring, has jumpscares)

>>3996782
>>3996784
>>3996785
>>3996786
Alright. Alright. Thank you all. I've got a lot to play now.
>>3996783
>And Dragon blazers is just an allegory for Deltarune, I don't think it goes any deeper than that.
Ya think? I know that Dragon Blazers isn't meant to be Mantle since DB is probably turn based. There's some interesting things that line up. Like the ice maze that requires a specific party member.
Maybe it was just hints for chapter 3 and won't go any deeper than that. Just have to see.

>>3996761
If you don't mind things that aren't full-sized games, Undertale RED was the progenitor of fanmade Undertale fights, to the point the dev now works on Deltarune. Underfell: One Hell of a Show is a great two-battle fangame, feels exactly like a slice of a full game. A Different Snowgrave by the same dev is also pretty good. Lost Deltarune is very...unique. It's like a creepypasta. This one is basically CORE-sized.

>>3996793
>to the point the dev now works on Deltarune.
You can actually see some reused fights from it in Deltarune. Like the Knight's attacks.

>>3996798
*some reused attacks

>>3996798
>>3996808
Makes sense Toby would ask a fangame dev to make the knight's moves, they are what you would expect in the dime and dozen fangames with "le hard" moveset

Yeah super sense shop

>>3996809
>tfw the chapter 5 shadow crystal boss says "ayuda por favor"

>>3996813
The chapter 5 secret boss will be made by DRY1 trust the plan

>>3996813
>Like, uh, hey, maybe things took a last breath right now...

>>3996818
>sorry kid, my brother suddenly cancelled our plans. he says he "knows what you did", and that he's in Disbelief™ over it. dunno what that means, but yeah. don't come to my house again.

>>3996815
the full screen attack will be a 10 minute make out scene with Cole and Kanako

>>3996821
Unfortunately after Toby recognized DRY as canon he made some changes to the story so it would be in line with his vision™.

Kanako is now a lesbian, Chujin and Roba are divorced, Gizmo is non-binary and Mo "befriends" Ceroba in chapter 3.

You can only date kanako on le hecking problematic evil route, so this will be exclusive to you're firegraves (laughs).

>>3996744
/v/ hates it when people actually talk about videogames

>>3996823
fuuuuuuck moroba I'm GOONING AUUUPPPAAAAUPOOUGHH

>>3996823
thanks I hate it.

>>3996833
Toby...

>>3996823
>Moroba
We finally came up with a plausible ship more unappealing than corn yaoi, thank you

>>3996839
you know, I had to think for a moment at those words, because Corn yaoi really just makes no sense, and there's no dynamic with the characters.

But honestly I think Roba would actively dislike Mo so yeah it's honestly bad from start to finish. She doesn't seem to have patience for things like shenanigans (her issues with Starlos stage persona, her anger at the steamworks computer). Mo would genuinely piss her off.

I feel like it would be even worse than Martlet x Ceroba which would be bad, but this is just worse. Maybe Ceroba x toriel tier bad.

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>>3996841
what a terrible night to have eyes.

>>3996840
martroba and toroba are purely goon factor with no chemistry, that being that I understand the appeal of smug milf on younger flustered lady

Is it the right time for a thread?

>>3996843
>that being that I understand the appeal of smug milf on younger flustered lady
yeah I wont begrudge someone their smut, I just personally have a harder time getting off on it if the dynamic is actively bad between the characters. Even a neutral dynamic like an OC/selfinsert x character is easier for me to get behind for those purposes because the characters don't come across to me as actively wanting to kill each other. Beyond just not being into yuri myself, but I can conceptually get why the
>smug milf on younger flustered lady
would be hot to someone.

Thread

Bird

>>3996846
Can't find it.

>>3996846
did it already get deleted? i cant find anything.

>>3996851
>>3996853
vidya

>>3996854
well it looks like you made it too stealthy, anon. its been overtaken by actual discussion.

>>3996855
maybe someone should make another

>>3996855
I don't know why but OPs here don't understand subtlety and they're either too stealthy or too obvious

>>3996855
Its got hardly any posts and half of those are me engaging with the conversation.

>>3996860
so in other words you forced your stealth thread into being directly related to the topic.
i would make a proper thread but i did get a one day a few days ago and im not aiming to upgrade that to a three day ban.

>>3996860
>>3996855
>>3996859
Just use it, its fine. I think the main issue is just how small the relevant part of the image is. Makes it hard to find on the catalog.

>>3996861
No, i simply got the thread bumped a few times. The rain thread worked the other day after all, and the threads conversation is still very relevant.

>>3996841
Oh no, this physically hurts

>>3996864
Yeah sorry, I've been on thread making duty a lot and picked the first image that felt right. I'm sure I'll have to make another later anyways.

I figured conceptually its on topic enough to what we like discussing vidya wise.

>>3996753
>What are your opinions on doing writer self-inserts in a story/game? Do you like/hate it?
It's dangerous and can come off as author wankery, but it can be pulled off.

It works for the Annoying Dog, but it got annoying real fast for DR Gerson.

>Is it okay to feature a Character based on your life experiences, or is it too self-inserty?
That's the most valuable situation to do it, for example, if you wanna have a character that has the same job as you.

>How would you go around by doing it?
Minor joke character like the Annoying Dog, or moderate self-mockery.

>Would you do it in your fangame/game?
I plan to have one character like that in my story.

>>3996864
>>3996865
the problem with making the stealth topic too broad is that you are going to piss people off when it turns out that the thread is a stealth thread.
you need the topic to still relate to our stuff but have absolutely zero fucking interest in it.
for example,
>unreleased games about extinct birds?

>>3996871
We're generally pretty good about entertaining the original topic while still talking about our stuff.
And again, after making 30 threads, I start to have to reach a bit for ideas.

>>3996874
just repost one that worked, mods already let people infinitely repost the same threads day in and day out anyway

>>3996871
yeah, Racter feels too forced into the current thread, I think this one was too stealthy

>>3996880
I think you're making up an issue that has never been a concern in our threads before. We have had much less solid connections between topic and discussions than this one before.
>>3996879
I've done that and had threads deleted that weren't before. I'll try something different for next thread but it's really not a big deal.

the goyellow know