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Simping for McKenna is just a phase OP, you'll get over it. When you grow older and wiser you look back to his works and you realize he was speaking gibberish the entire time. His speech isn't that profound he just really likes the words:
>Coalescence
>Transcendental
>Iridescent
>Reverberating
>Incandescent
>Zeta Reticuli
>Zenith
>Modality
>Mycelium

And that's about it. Everything else is just trip reports from his heavy drug use. He was wrong about I-Ching, he was wrong about Time wave Zero, his 2012 prediction failed, he was antagonistic of masculinity, making speeches about how it is a societal I'll and goes against mother Gaia and divine femininity. He stopped using psychedelics towards the end of his short life after an extremely bad trip, then got brain cancer and worried his psychedelics had caused it. Doctors assured him that they didn't, but it was most likely to save his legacy and his hurt feelings from figuring out the fact his entire life was wasted on drugs.

The only thing McKenna was good at was historical study of hermeticism and his seminars about people like John Dee were informative.

>>42540412 (OP)
>Be CIA
>Be conducting experiments on the population
>Be spreading drugs on the population
>Be using distractions to keep people stupid, sedated and divided so that the state will retain control over the population
>Use DMT to lead people astray with religion-like delusions
>Create a preacher figure to market your stupidity-inducing narcotic to the people
>Would-be thinkers are now pacified and you can make additional money off of them
OD and die, you druggie subhuman.

>>42540444
>The only thing McKenna was good at was historical study of hermeticism
yeah I also agree OP isnt reading between the lines. mckenna is interesting, his core revelations are smart and he has a good understanding of psychedelics. but he also developed the schizo side and doesn't have logical cohesion to what he's saying.
I like that he says psi compounds are more significant in our history than we are told. at first the stoned ape seems ridiculous, but then it makes a lot of sense that without psychelics and hallucinogenics we could not exist. there are articles every day finding bone pipes from 4000 years ago, we have known about cannabis, peyote, etc since the dawn of time. that's his best take from what I've seen of him, it gets misinterpreted as psilocybin caused language or gave us knowledge, I think he was on it that psychedelics have been with us early and we are not told about it since a peasant had more freedom.

>>42540412 (OP)
>DMT, shrooms and cannabis are the catalysts that turned him into a philosophymaxxed prophet

While those drugs can be catalysts, for most ppl on this board they are ways to cope. The "expanded consciousness" bs is just an excuse to ignore painful emotions.

Once you get to a good place sober, you can find the benefits from the drugs

>>42540478
>>Be CIA
>>Be conducting experiments on the population
>>Be spreading drugs on the population
>>Be using distractions to keep people stupid, sedated and divided so that the state will retain control over the population
>>Use DMT to lead people astray with religion-like delusions
>>Create a preacher figure to market your stupidity-inducing narcotic to the people
>>Would-be thinkers are now pacified and you can make additional money off of them
This. The entire psychedelic clown show was an international MI/clandestine services op. And not one conducted in your interest. lol It has been exhaustively documented by now. Culture comes from the top down. Always has.

>>42540412 (OP)
Retards can seethe and cope about how McKenna was a junkie or a fed, but the reality is that he was right about pretty much everything. And that is what makes them seethe the most.

>>42540412 (OP)
I don't know who he is and I don't know if he was a fed or a grifter or a genuine activist,
but the guy's mistake was choosing to preach that accomplishes nothing instead of
forming diplomatic ties with interventionist factions in the galaxy.
Hawkish ones probably exist in the space too.
Or he should've formed an anti-earth bloodlines guerilla task force.
So in the end, he got shot by a cancerbeam and died meaninglessly with no lasting effect.

Good people are delusional. They think exposing an opsec or doing a tour on conspiracies will change anything.
The tragic irony is that in the entire history of Earth,
any advancements in the rights and freedom of the common people or the slaving class only came about through violence.
As ugly it is, it is because those in power do everything in their power to prevent any reforms.
If people behaved like woo-minded folks, we'd still live the same lives comparable to that of Egyptian slaves.

Woo is garbage. Enlightenment is essentially telling people to suck it up.
Too little of woo and total rejection of enlightenment also result in evil.

Light has to be balanced (more like backed) by darkness.
Without it, there cannot be light, for light is excited state of the darkness.

I wish I could be killed just so I can launch everything.

>>42540412 (OP)
I’m glad I’m not the only one who knows this.
Watts too.

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>>42540412 (OP)
Based

>>42541216
They always kill our heroes
Being killed by the establishment is worn as a badge of pride on the other side

>>42541410
Hallucinogens let you talk to the dead now?

>>42540444
It's not that it's gibberish, it's that it's fairly remedial.

>>42540412 (OP)
They got me possessed. Didn’t help me one bit

>>42540412 (OP)
this is how the gods communicate with us greedy plebian beasts.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B8NMDmoujfo&ra=m

>>42540412 (OP)
>"And so, here it is, folks. Another denizen of the howling transcendental mindscape makes contact over space and time to touch the light of information through the ethereal barrier of language. Human history could be said to be such an enterprise since the birth of the human organism to the yawning grave, with thanks to the mycelial wisdom of the most humble, HUMBLE, strains of life this world has ever known since the days of Gaian resplendence—what would that be, folks? The mushroom, the fruit of knowledge as it's known as in the Abrahamic circles, to you and me we call it psilocybin, the honey of the Gods, folks.

That's what he sounds like.

>>42540478
This faggot is an obese britcuck who posts pics of slop and seethes in every drug related thread. Have a heart attack and die Blob Subhuman.

>>42540444
I’ve never gotten over it.
McKenna is still one of my intellectual heroes.

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>>42542060
Glowniggers butthurt. Love to see shills cope and seethe.

>>42540412 (OP)
Psychedelics are what stupid people use to fry what little is left of their brains.

can't read much text nowadays, a little bit of wise words gives me a LOT to chew on and I am content with such wise practical words, it is like the wisdom springs forth from silent contentment.

the nature of this silence is penetrating and all encompassing, the material world is anchored and spins around it, it must be available immediately for everyone who let's go of all effort, the silence that can be posted about is not the eternal, penetrating silence,

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>>42542388
>glownigger faggot coping and seething
Kek

>>42540444
>stopped using psychedelics towards the end of his short life after an extremely bad trip
he should not have hid this from people. I had a trip that I think was similar to his trip to the “meat locker”. The dose was very high, the experience very unpleasant. At least for the few hours I was stuck in “there” though it felt like years. I was trapped, watched myself grow old.
I haven’t touched psychs in a long time, still one of my worst memories. It can get to you in horrifying ways that you cannot anticipate.

>>42545415
I agree. But he set himself up after years of preaching that the psychedelic was a feel-good mystical insightful experience that had the potential to save mankind or whatever. So he was never going to admit that he had the [Nightmare Trip from Hell]. That would have begged the question about the nature of the mushroom and of entities found in high doses of psilocybin or DMT. Would have made people wonder "Demons" or "Mental illness".

The best trip you could ever ask for is the nightmare trip, it's the nightmare trip that actually evoked radical change in your personal life. After my own trip to Hell on psychedelics, I stopped abusing drugs and alcohol and got my act together, thankful for every breath of sober reality almost 10 years later.

The "good" trips got me nowhere, just glued to sofa or a bed for 6 - 12 hours chasing nonsensical geometric shapes and colors and otherworldly artefacts and concepts on the back of my eyelids. Waste of time.

That's the only good thing I can say about the psychedelic, it's that if you're lucky and you get your absolute soul scared out of your body, you actually grow as a person afterwards. The only way to graduate the psychedelic is to be quit of them.

>>42542310
MKUltra, dumbass. If anything glowies love psychedelics, it's why they experimented with it on unsuspecting subjects, either individuals or dumping LSD in water supplies in small towns. It was initially researched as a mind control substance or potential "truth serum" to gain control of other humans. It's not the enlightening substance you want it to be

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We all know the end game of psychedelics. Mckenna is just a groomer.

>>42542278
This guy bleeds reddit blood

>>42545636
I don't think psychedelics make you trans. But a lot of the psychedelic community certainly love to influence other people's trips with their anti-male shit. McKenna was one such hippy who made speeches against masculinity as an oppressive egoistical force, and femininity being a beautiful chaos aligned with mother Gaia or some shit. Every time a psychonaut or hippy speaks on gender in regards to psychedelics it's usually anti-male, and I think it's because drug addicts tend to have father issues. It's the whole reason why they seek guidance or insight or wisdom from shit like Clockwork machine elves, it's because their fathers didn't wanna give them anything. So they seethe against masculinity or patriarchal role modeling and you end up with a lot of queers and trannies in the psych community. I seen them a lot back when I was doing psychedelics. Thankfully I wasn't retarded and had the common sense to just buy the drugs and do them alone at home. I hated the psychedelic "community" back then as I did then myself and I hate them now.

>>42545623
>The only way to graduate the psychedelic is to be quit of them.
It's like Leary said... once you get the message, hang up the phone.

>>42547048
Wow did reddit man really say that? I better write that down.

>>42540412 (OP)
>> reference quantum physics, shamanism, linguistics, and ancient civilisations
Excellent, his lectures will contain plenty of clearly presented quantitative data that can advance science and technology

Mckenna is so reddit coded because they need an authority figure to look up to like the cows they are. They need someone to tell them how to think, they need mind control. NPCs need the instruction manual or they are lost. I spit on your reddit man and I took a sledge hammer to the le phone.

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>>42540412 (OP)
I've done Mushrooms and that was honestly 1 of the best decisions I've made earlyon in my life, but it kinda went wrong after a while after my 2nd Trip and I didn't like myself and went through a dark time mentally, and my anxiety is back too which can be hard to manage at times but I am pulling through.
What would your advice be? To just stay sober and see what happens, and to do mushrooms again after a certain time of being sober, or to just stay sober if/when I feel more "normal" again and balanced?

I've definitely learned that Mushrooms aren't something to take lightly, and so I am probably staying sober for the foreseeable future.

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Interesting Anons
I only just recently started getting into psychedelics, and trust me when I say that these were really low doses that I took both times, and the first was really good before and after, and the second was good too but a while after something in me "flipped" a switch and I went into a really depressive mentalstate for like a month or so, and I am still battling that I think mentally, so I hope that after 6m or so I am back to "normal" and can just get on with my life...I have already made a lot of changes in my life since, so I am not really jumping for joy at the thought of doing more psychedelics anytime soon.

>>42547401
Especially knowing that it could have been a lot worse for me mentally, I have actually managed to pull through, so I consider myself lucky, and want to just try living sober again.

>>42540412 (OP)
>and cannabis
Sneaky

>>42547451
I don’t think this is anything unusual. You will most likely go back to normality. Though if you’re not, if you become convinced you’re in the truman show or something like that, you may need help. I suggest you don’t do psychedelics anymore. Mostly because these are drugs for happy people, not people are hanging on by a thread. People who are susceptible to thinking everyone around them is faking it. Very bad for you.

>>42548387
maybe you’re not but it’s a common pitfall

>>42540478
only government faggots, unironic bootlicking slaves like you, think that “delusion” word is real.
ironically, but you can’t see the irony.
exit babylon, we aren’t going to stab you to death for quitting your masters bullshit.

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>>42540412 (OP)
>take it easy dude...
>buuuut
>TAKE IT!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnR3gaOLYfU

>>42540444
I like Timewave Zero, but not how he went about deciding what inputs to use and the process for calculating it. he is more or less looking to parameterize and programmatically analyze how cultures rise and fall. in 4chan memetics lingo, he would've been mathematically plotting out the memetic stages of life to the point of culture death, his point of either maximum or minium entopic novelty. social scientists use similar terms to refer to how the founding principles of a culture will eventually play themselves out. and then, of course in typical metaphysical analysis, he applies the same Timewave analysis to the broader human experience to see how the rise and fall of the human race can show the same rise and fall of the constituent parts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scale_invariance

Timewave Zero is a really good effort at it, regardless of how correct it was. I am certain that if he were around today with the data we have, he would easily be able to pull off the analysis he wanted to do, short the part where the world ends in some sort of infopocalypse or whatever.

>>42547728
cannabis is a chemical analog of psychedelics. they both are non addictive and do not destroy your receptors. his theory reminds that these chemicals have been with us since prehistory and we are brainwashed from finding out that we have been smoking black tar in bone pipes since forever. it may even imply that the brain was able to develop to a higher order because of the monkey who sought out smoking crack.

>>42548625
I was a daily dudeWeed smoker in my 20's for several years
I'm pretty sure it's damaged my cognitive ability, at least somewhat.
I've been sober for years and have no real desire to go back to it.
McKenna was an influence on me, and not necessarily a positive one.

I have a strong feeling the reason majority of the hippy culture and modern leftism is so inverted and gay is because of faggots like this guy. It doesn't have to be this way, they've really done a good job funding and pushing these ideas. Someone else people seem to worship when he's actually one of them himself is George Carlin. People can't seem to understand the concept of controlled opposition. "We're all one guys, everything someone does can be understood and ultimately anything anyone does to you is your fault!" Says the hippy abuser. There seems to be this inverted nwo spirituality they use people/agents of chaos for spreading such nihilistic ideas. It's like some boomer spirituality where they believe God and Jesus to only be metaphors, and a lot of confused and scared people looking for answers fall for it. Lot easier to digest then there being a higher spiritual issue at hand

>CIA tricked a few generation of dissidents to fry their brains

the perfect psyop

>>42545623
Oh, now you're a productive little goy. Good for you. Maybe when you die the bank clerk that closes your account will remember your name 0.5 seconds longer because the number was bigger than average.

>>42545415
So did ye never really talk about the bad trip or what?

this thread was made by glowniggers

>>42540412 (OP)
Yeah, people say shit about psychonauts all the time but it's really really difficult to live more intensely than a guy like that. Honestly, it's infinitely more noble to get into a journey like that than to remain indoors seething about druggies, preaching doctrines, parroting religious texts and whatnot.
People like to say the glowniggers pushed psychedelics to the population. I only see crack, meth, fentanyl and pharma drugs being spread to the people.
Organized crime (aka three letter agency fronts) have never thrived by selling psychedelics and never will. Only a complete moronic stooge could associate natural psych with any glownigger operation. Maybe a failed and ditched one that backfired marvelously.

>>42540444
You just went cynical, afraid and tame, anon. That has nothing to do with McKenna's point.
>psychedelics causing brain cancer
That's something I would expect to hear from a middle aged protestant housewife.

>>42542278
>drugs peddling jew
>hero
lollers

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>>42540894
this
david mcgowan comes to mind

>>42540780
>The "expanded consciousness" bs is just an excuse to ignore painful emotions.
nope,j it's a way out
painful emotions lead directly to consciousness expansion when handled right
as often told, drugs are shortcuts, and shortcuts come with pitfalls

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>>42541144
>Egyptian slaves.
jewish myth
pyramid builders quarters were dug up, they were good cities that denoted a high level of freedom and agency enjoyed by the artisans

>>42542002
>They got me possessed. Didn’t help me one bit
gee why on earth would a drug peddled by jews get one possessed, that's stupendous, right?

>>42540412 (OP)
Everyone can't be Terrence, remember that. We all have a role to play in this never ending movie called Earth. Even the homeless guy living under the bridge. He's just as important as the president. Even the innocent newborn baby that knows nothing can teach someone life-changing lessons. No one's better than anyone, we're all the same. The serial-killer/rapist has just as much impact as the Pastor of your church.

>>42550812
Thank you, Hallmark.