/xs/ — Armed martial arts that would actually be effective in real life?

>>200580 (OP)
>Armed martial arts that would actually be effective in real life?
The gun.

>>200581
Wow so funny and original brother.

>>200580 (OP)
Learn kendo and then read the book of five rings, do the katas and learn niten ichi ryu by yourself after you have that base of kendo. Get a friend at kendo practice to do it with you and practice together.

>>200582
It’s not funny it’s reality. The era of the sword is over. People practice sword based martial arts for recreation, not modern combat. That would be retarded.

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>>200580 (OP)
I guess escrima since it's something you could reasonably carry with you. If you just want to fight people with melee weapons try HEMA shit maby. It looks fun. Kendo/iado for samurai larping.

>>200585
I'm aware, everyone is aware, yes, I do intend to practice recreationally, but I want to practice something that could be used in a real fight effectively because it feels good to be physically capable of violence.
Your comment is neither helpful nor original, you are just saying irrelevant shit that doesn't answer the question because you want to feel smart.

>>200589
No HEMA place nearby unfortunately. I would go for that if I could.

>>200590
When you say “useful in real life” the implication is that you intend to use it for self defense or something, which again is retarded. Not my fault you don’t know how to communicate.

>>200591
>>200589
I don't neccesarily mean that it has to be something useful for modern self defense, but something that is an actual martial art thst would have been used on a battlefield, so if kendo actually taught you how to win a real sword fight that would be good, as dmfar as I know it's just point scoring like fencing tho.

>>200592
I wrote effective in real life.

>>200593
It's origins are pretty far removed from historical Japanese sword play. Didn't really come to be until after WW2 and it was created as a sport and not a martial art. But it would still probably let you beat some random guy in a sword fight, not that it will ever happen.

As autistic as hema fags are they have the right idea analyzing old manuscripts.

>>200594
Which implies the same thing. Learn how to communicate. Also do whatever you want. Everything you suggested was “effective” for learning how to use their weapons.

>>200596
Modern kendo has a more restrictive ruleset but kendo absolutely was trained prior to and during wwii as a military exercise to train aggression and learn to strike with the sword. They even had similar rulesets for “tan-kendo” which is kendo with the tanto dagger or “jukendo” which is kendo with the bayonet.

>>200590
>>200594
In real life, you will not be carrying a sword when you get attacked. Therefore, using a sword is not effective in real life unless you intend to instigate an attack with one, in which case merely swinging the sword will probably win you the fight.

>>200580 (OP)
Fencing can be used with most types of blades, so unlike kendo that requires a sword and eskrima which is unrealistic in general, Fencing will give you an advantage with any type of knife.

Fencing works because it is mostly fast and simple footwork that is uniformly taught and well tested (both in sport and history). Eskrima is whatever your teacher thinks it is and it has no proven track record.

>>200659
What would work best in real life? Sabre?

>>200599
They found out as soon as 1925 that Kendo wasn't practical sword fighting, though it does instill a strong fighting spirit. This fighting spirit is completely lost in the wind if you are doing inefficient movement though. And this was pre-war kendo...
Kendo alone is absolutely not enough.

>>200717
Read it again retard, I didn't suggest he do kendo. So sick of these fucking morons who have no reading comprehension.

>>200665
Of the fencing disciplines epee is most realistic
>>200717
Not enough for what, exactly?
>>200723
Why are you pretending you wrote my post?

>>200581
>>200585
>>200592
>>200597
>>200632
You're a fucking faggot & wrong. Many parts of the world still depend on the use of blades for defense, and not just third world shit holes. Just because you don't take advantage of it doesn't mean it isn't effective. Many first world areas still let you use large blades & I guarantee simply open carrying a large knife will have the same effect as open carrying a gun, people leave you the fuck alone. Except even better, open carrying a knife where it's permitted is less likely to get the police on you than open carrying a gun. Even in commiefornia you're allowed to open carry a machete. Ain't no one besides crazy retards gonna start shit with 1 of those strapped to you. I walk around with my open carry knife because in this age of pussies people leave you alone just for the sight of it.

>>200745
But if you're gonna brandish it, you better know how to use it, because of aforementioned crazy retards.
>>200580 (OP)
Eskrima is some real shit, go with that. The Philippines still actively use this stuff. Civil defense & police there carry blades & still use them in fights so eskrima is still under development & very practical. Plus, a lot of eskrima techniques can still be applied unarmed too, thats part of the genius of the style. Remove the blade and basically changes it intona lot of grappling & joint manipulation.

>>200745
What knife martial arts do you train? If you don't train in anything, then the knife isn't going to do jack shit if you actually have to use it.

>Even in commiefornia you're allowed to open carry a machete
And you can still buy guns in California, so there's no reason not to buy one unless you're a felon and can't buy one.

>>200746
Wasn't Kali Escrima used in the DUNE movies?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOYe-HpDp_E

>>200774
Eskrima. Cali is full of karens & soibois that will call 5-0 on you if you open carry a gun. Half of a weapons value is as a deterrent which it can't be if it can't be seen. Plus getting an open carry in california is fucking bitch. Shut the fuck up, take your faggy no logic defeatist arguments & eat a dick.

>>200774
>>200819
Also do you have any idea how fucking expensive guns & ammo in cali costs? Having a gun & being proficient with it doesn't negate the value of a blade & it's way fucking cheaper to.maintain and practice with.

>>200821
Can't you open carry swords in California though? That's what I'd do

>>200822
Depends on your area. Under state law though there is no length limit on the size of fixed blade you can open carry. I live in an unincorporated part of my county & the county has no laws regarding it..so yes. If I wanted I could go full blown autismo & carry a sword.

>>200819
>trains in escrima
>can't spell it
ok retard

>Cali is full of karens & soibois that will call 5-0 on you if you open carry a gun
They'd call the cops on you if you were open carrying a bowie too.

>Half of a weapons value is as a deterrent which it can't be if it can't be seen
You're just opening yourself to get harassed and making it easier to disarm you. CC is superior even if you can legally OC.

>>200821
>Having a gun & being proficient with it doesn't negate the value of a blade
I agree. Now post your gun.

>do you have any idea how fucking expensive guns & ammo in cali costs?
So you're a felon AND poor?

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>>200582
Kys.

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>>200821
Not my fault that you are useless to society.
Remember: supply and demand.
You are poor because you are a worthless piece of shit.
>>200819
Okay.

>>200827
>>200831
>being this huge of a faggot
Fuck off to /k/ or neck yourself.

>>200827
>CC is superior
Which is practically impossible in a liberal state you faggot fucking retard. Go to /k/ bitch.

>>200827
>Now post your gun
Never said I had one queerbait. Post your needle dick compensation. Bet you don't even have one & your just a faggot larping troll.

>>200826
Sounds great
Should bring back carrying swords, everyone would be way more chill when there's a realistic possibility of a sword fight for acting foolish

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>>200838
CC is legal in the majority of the state.

Even then

>complying

>>200839
Poor felon confirmed.

>>200830
They feared him so bad they had to take him out before he mastered the blade.

>>200839
>Needle dick
Sorry hon'. It's been debooooonked.
You are just a troll spreading misinformation and calling names.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8447103/

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>>200837
>Useful martial arts?
>Master the arts of guns anon
>WTF NO I CANNOT AFFORD THAT YOU ARE A TROLL FROM /K/
What's your angle here?
You wanted an answer, you got one. A practical one too.
If you really wanted to practice martial art, you wouldn't be here seeking approval from others.

>>200580 (OP)
What do you plan to carry in public, a literal sharpened rapier? A wooden katana, Gin-san? A shilleighlah, McGinn? A knoife? Based on your choice, I think you'll have a good idea of which discipline to pursue.

>>200856
A Goedendag. I'll paint it purple and gold and tell people it's just my pimp walking stick, call it my Hoedendawg.

Learn to use a Messer. Then you'll know basic take-down grapples and can fight with anything from a machete to a lead pipe.

>>200866
I don't have any HEMA clubs near me.

>>200852
>posts study refuting dick compensation by gun owners instead of posting gun
LMAO guaranteed needle dick

>>200854
Go to /k/ faggot.

>>200866
>>200746
>use a Messer. Then you'll know basic take-down grapples
>Remove the blade and basically changes it intona lot of grappling & joint manipulation.
This is number 1 bullshit. The moves might be similar mechanically with or without a weapon, but it doesn't mean you know grappling. The only way to be good at grappling under stress is to train and spar grappling exclusively. The majority of people in any weapons focused art neglect grappling and only do 1 or 2 grappling lessons compared to the exponentially greater amount of time they spend hitting each other with training weapons.

>>200941
>No argument
Glad to hear that you begrudgingly agree.

>>200957
>No argument
Glad you agree you're a faggot.

Depends on if you're willing to carry a sword around like an autistic maniac

>>200957
The argument is that the discussion is limited to the three options initially presented you impenetrably autistic redditor

>>200774
>If you don't train in anything, then the knife isn't going to do jack shit if you actually have to use it.
yeah im sure all those black teens stabbing people to death are up all night practicing their knifework

>>200983
>three options
All of which involves carrying around conspicuous large sticks, thus useless "in real life", even more so against gun shooting thugs and robbers, which America has no short supply of.
Op does not know any better and I offered a guidance off his autistic set of "options".

>>200985
Assault =/= self defense.

A black teen can suckerpunch somebody from behind and knock them out. Guess boxing is fake news by your logic.

>>200580 (OP)
Lift and become the weapon yourself.
90% of fights can be ended quickly by picking someone up and slamming them face first into concrete, bonus points if you learn to wrestle, it’s so effective that you might even end up killing them.
No chance o defense from someone that wants to shank you or shoot you in the first place apart from maybe running, so you might as well go unarmed.
If you really need a weapon learn to use a baton so do kali.

>>200581
FPBP. HEMA, eskrima and kendo fags seethe at the realization that their art is no better than Taolu choreographies or Olympic Fencing.

>>201038
>t. Faggot who doesn't even own a gun
If it works for criminals assaulting unarmed people, i can work for people being assaulted by unarmed criminals.

>>200581
so the bayonet?

what about a little buckler self defence shield?

>>200580 (OP)
kali / silat

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