/xs/ — Ultimate Self-Defense Championship Season 2

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The contestants this time around include:
>Natan Levy
Israeli lightweight in UFC, last year had some popularity due to getting into a sparring match with a groyper who hated Jews.
>Jeff "MMAShredded" Chan
Winner of the previous USDC, pretty much the only contestant who was an active fighter in an MMA promotion instead of a 40-50+ coach/trainer or schlubby dilettante YouTuber.
>Jesse "The Karate Nerd" Enkamp
Owner of the KarateByJesse blog and now YouTuber, Jesse is a high-ranking Swedish Karateka, bullshido believer, and Karate historian. Probably the second most autistic man in this show next to Rokas himself.
>Jordan "Jordan Teaches Jiu-Jitsu" Preisinger
Smaller name YouTuber focused on BJJ-related content. Of the YouTubers listed, is the least popular, but is also a completely normal guy.
>Ranton
French-German video game reviewer. Is only on the show because there's not a lot of popular martial arts YouTubers who humored Rokas and because he studied at Shaolin Temple in his early 20s and does some kung fu drills at home. Claims to be Chinese, barely speaks the language lmao.
>Craig Hunter
Literally just a guy. He's a filler because a basketball player Instagram influencer who was gonna be at the event flaked, and Rokas needed someone so he just picked a regular dude to work as a "controL" compared to the guys with martial arts backgrounds. His background is the occasional bit of weightlifting and typical bogan barfighting.

Rokas "Martial Arts Journey" Leo will not be participating as a contestant this season and instead serves as a commentator/referee/committee

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>>210553 (OP)
>*wins 10/10 encounters*
gun ku do is the ultimate martial art

>>210555
That's the American division. This shit's set in Australia, everyone's a noguns. The very first challenge is "What'll you do if you're chased by a pack of Abbos with knives and they wanna fuck that rotisserie chicken you're holding?"

>>210556
>"What'll you do if you're chased by a pack of Abbos with knives and they wanna fuck that rotisserie chicken you're holding?"

i pull out my pocket drop bear and throw it at them

>>210553 (OP)
>Israel
>War with Hamas
>The only reason I can think of is because I'm a jew

This is shit

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>>210562
Honestly it was hilarious. Especially given he's already losing out to the fucking untrained bogan.

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>>210553 (OP)
I am a little disappointed, you would think he would have redesigned some stuff after ruining Ramsey's knee. I am curious now, maybe his 1 year wait was not due to long covid but simply because he was sued for another injury and did not want to release it as long as someone could use the material in court?

>>210587
All participants were sent the footage of everything well before the originally intended release of the USDC back in April, with the idea they could make their own content with it. If any of it would be material evidence, then it wouldn't matter that Rokas didn't air it.

DUDE SELF DEFENSE PEN LMAO
way to just pollute this entire "experiement" with that shit
dude, you need to improvise weapons!!! except in america I carry my own so they can fuck off with that shit

also we know jordans knee gets fucked up early on and he's basically out of the comp, he talked about it on his podcast
secondly jeff didn't "bleed out" from getting poked in the back like that, there was no organ near that wound that would've killed him

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>>210609
They're gonna do everything possible to not let Jeff Chan win a second time. The first time basically humiliated the entire fucking event because it verified the thesis statement that existed well before Rokas planned for the USDC: "If you don't have a gun and running isn't an option, training in mixed martial arts will be the most advantageous thing you'll have." They already scrambled to find ways to deduct points from him in multiple events last time and he still won because he was competing against geriatrics, a schlubby daycare teacher, and Rokas Leo who has gone on record multiple times about how often he'd been shoved into lockers growing up.

Next season: Jon Jones joins the USDC (guess who wins :O)

>>210610
don't sleep on jesse with this and he proved it, I'd say he's the dark horse because hes really big and showed he's down to party with that first game

>>210639
Jesse also trains in MMA. He talks up doing only karate but that's because his internet persona is mostly a character, the man behind the nerd is in fact someone who puts a lot of work into being a proper all-rounder because he has to be able to help train his brother who's fought in several MMA promotions.
Also pretty much every time he sparred with anyone from either season, he quite frankly beat the fucking shit out of them. He just doesn't make a big deal out of it because that's not his "job" so to speak.

>>210612
The street light he crashes against and the girl passed out in the backseat

I feel like these people hate each other irl.

All the padding + the implicit agreement that they're not trying to knock each other the fuck out for a YouTube video kind makes this useless as an actual display of martial ability.because everything devolves into half-assed grappling. Season 1 had the same issue.

>jesse
lol what?

If they picked him as bait... is working bc I am actually intrigued.

>>210553 (OP)
How am I supposed to know which one is jewish?

The strategies they employed in the first challenge seem so poorly planned, I wouldn't be surprised if they were told what to do just to show why those choices wouldn't work. The fact that the professional fighter decided to square up against 5 armed attackers by himself and the bjj fighter specifically decided to run while wearing shitty footwear and Jesse going out of his way to use the sponsored Self Defense Pen, it all seems artificial.

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Ranton letting his half-German side show through when talking to Natan, what a gamer

>>211016
A reality show contest might be fake???? But that only happens on tv!!!!

>>211016
the self defense pen is a dumb way to try and skirt knife statutes because they're always worded in a way to generally outlaw the use of sharp objects not just knives explicitly as an example "a sharp implement with the intent to use as a weapon"
at that point just carry a fucking knife

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0UAhR_P-n4
New ep link

>>211070
>Craig left at the first fight
>Left the retard friend alone so he wouldn't keep getting into trouble
Literally the smartest person in this challenge is the fucking average Australian man

>>211074
>The same bogan who definitely got into barfights IRL immediately knew to demand a lawyer
>The fucking Jew also figured this out and then decided to wait for a bit and make noise to psyche out everyone else
If nothing else, this is a much funnier season.
(I know Ranton also called for a lawyer but he was tragically unfunny this episode so I don't care)

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Current score. The MMA champs are being punked by a Regular Guy. Jeff is probably rigged so he doesn't win twice in a row but Natan has no fucking excuse, he's IDF and UFC. All this proves to me is that Australians are the strongest life-forms.

>>211074
he's a student of the guy running this whole thing, he's been through all these exercises before and knows the answers to the test and what he's looking for
it's total bullshit honestly

I find it entertaining, but it's silly the way these combatives people go through life paranoid and afraid of everything
"he lost points because he turned his back to a potential attacker at the bar"
if you're that afraid to be outside then you should never leave your house, seriously

>>211077
Jeff had top tier fighting skills in the bar but made self defense mistakes.

>>211087
>>211077
The scoring was so stupid. Jeff beat the absolute piss out of everybody and basically came away unharmed, but he almost got last because of some arbitrary bullshit that ruled he used "excessive force" and nitpicky nonsense like turning his back to a guy for 0.2 seconds. BJJ guy did not but cling to the attackers and got his shit stomped but somehow scored better.

meh, i liked the first season because of the fact that all of the contenders knew each other and had done a lot of collaboration before, so there was great chemistry
not feeling it for this season

>>211112
also he preemptively attacked people who were drugging peoples drinks
all that says is he had good instinct
every person he struck first was going to harm him, he didn't attack a single innocent bystander

>>210553 (OP)
>JEFF CHAN HEROICALLY FOUGHT AN ARMY OF 72625141894863 MEN
>HE KILLED EVERY SINGLE ONE WITH HIS BARE HANDS
>HOWEVER HE TOOK A SUPERFICIAL BLOW ON HIS FINGER AND FAILED TO FURTHER ADVERTIZE OUR SPONSORED SELF DEFENSE DILDO
>-999171983736891 points

>Ultimate Self-Defense Championship
>Jeff becomes the aggressor
>loses points
>chaners cry

Why?

>>211186
>someone tries to poison you
>take point away for beating his and every other attackers ass
It’s very clear this is rigged to make sure Jeff doesn’t win again
>muh excessive force
Kill yourself

>>211191
>someone tries to poison you
Not only did he not know, he did not punch the poisoner first - he just punched a guy who was disagreeing with him. He was just channeling his inner nigger.

>>211192
>he just inched the guy who was predestined by the competition to start a fight with him
>this is bad because he read the scenario too early


What innocent bystander did Jeff chan hurt?

>>211196
The dude arguing with him was innocent. All he did was get mad his booze was spilled like anyone would do. That is not behavior that warrants swinging your fists like a nigger. Natan, who is a neurotic Israeli who has been actually shot at before in a warzone, didn't even hit the point of niggardry to start winging first on either of them, he just knew to avoid them.

>>210553 (OP)
I wish that instead of mostly having people who all have trained MMA they would actually have specialists and some more common martial arts too. Have a pure boxer vs pure wrestler vs pure judoka vs MMA etc.
It would give this more of a fun ufc1 what is the best martial art vibe.
Also, this season seems like it will have the same problem where they aren't all in the same weight class, so the bigger guys have a massive advantage.
Also the Craig guy is obviously not just some random untrained dude.

I can't believe this FUCKER Rokas is releasing this weekly after delaying it for so fucking long.

Jeff Chan isn't even trying, so it's obviously going to be Natan who wins (unless the "totally average guy" who's done all these drills before wins on points). All there is to look forward to is Ranton getting his ass kicked.

>>211199
he pressed him though which is all the legal justification you need to hit someone
"I felt I was in danger" you don't need to actually wait for someone to hit you

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>bjj guy
>decides to not use striking and grapple against two guys at once

>>211248
>bjj guy
there's your answer

>>210610
Why would an MMA fighter winning humiliate the entire event when the entire gimmick of Rokas, the guy running the show, and his channel is "I learnt Aikido and it doesn't work in combat, I'm learning MMA now". And pretty much all of the martial artists invited to Season 2 have also trained in MMA.

>>211251
Because the guy who Rokas is contracting for the event, Jeff Phillips, genuinely hates MMA. There was a spat between him and Ramsey Dewey earlier this year over it and how they kept making shit up to deduct points from Jeff Chan last year and he still won by a large margin. Philips very pointedly hates MMA because if people just train MMA, people won't pay for his combatives courses.

Watching episode 1 now, Jeff and Jesse surprised me, took 4 guys down rather easily

Jeff is sabotaging himself come on

>the normal guy was the best one in the bar fight
Mental, no overthinking just normal stuff

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>what did you do?
>i attacked back... in self-defense

>>210800
This. This whole thing is just a meme larp

In reality if two guys who weigh the same as you want to beat you up, you're fucked

When one ties up with you and you're trying to deal with him, the other one will be throwing full on haymakers to your eye sockets and chin. You better be 140kg+ of muscle and fat in order to attempt to bully yourself out of that situation

MMA and grappling nerds get very cocky because of these gentleman's agreements during sparring

>>210553 (OP)
Why did they do so much better in the shank tank this time? Are last years contestants just frauds?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipf1mROm6rg
Ranton's boxing is pretty okay for an inexperienced kung fu flippy boy who's never hit someone before.

>>211471
They saw last year's shank tank and knew more of what to expect. That's about it.

>Jeff chan kicks somebody in the head that's running straight at him with his chin exposed
>nothing
>Ranton gives a guy a sloppy hook
>"yeah, that's a knockout stop the fight"
Judging has got to be rigged right?

>>211475
It was like 3 hooks one after the other to be fair.
Also, why didn't Jesse go for more disarms? I thought that was a big part of trad karate.

>>211477
I was surprised by that, given he showed one off in the Hide & Go Stab event that he even made a Seagal joke about.

>>211471
last year they used a marker
so effectively the attacker had a weightless knife that also had infinite and unknown length and mass that both exists when the attacker is stabbing them but does not exist when the defender tries to grab it
a marker isn't an analogue to a blade at all

>>211473
16:00 lmao fucking combative larper learned whats up

>>211475
See >>211297

They’re doing everything they can to keep Jeff from winning again because Jeff Philips is butthurt his commando larp scenarios are best handled by combat sport athletes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHh3kaR24IM
Ranton did a reaction of the first two eps with Rokas.
Only reason I'm posting it is because Craig "Regular Guy" Hunter was, as confirmed by Ranton and Rokas here, a fucking bare knuckle fighter in prison. They straight up lied, they found Kimbogan Slice!