>>220100(OP) There's a BJJ thread already, you fucking mongoloid. Every time you create a thread, another thread dies. Stop shitting up /xs/ with your retarded inquiries. Btw, I didn't bump this thread.
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Anonymous01/15/25(Wed)14:20:31
>>220104 >a wannabe bjj fighter is retarded *gasp*
any sport that requires you to stick around in a grapple is exactly that - a sport. if by useful you mean "can i actually defend myself with it" then the best grappler is wrestling with the intention of just picking someone up and dumping them on their head or spine. if you are genuinely interested in self defense the best thing in my own opinion a combination of boxing and weight lifting to build the speed and power needed to hit someone hard enough to either knock them out or put them on their ass so you can leave safely
i challenge anyone who says BJJ is good for self defence: next time you roll with someone ask them to just try touching your face their hand at any point during the rolle - this will simulate them gouging your eyes out with thir fingers. i promise you even a white belt will be able to do it multiple times per roll
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Anonymous06/10/25(Tue)17:27:43
>>233512 technical standup and the core stability and the sense of balance you get from doing it is very useful
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Anonymous06/16/25(Mon)01:58:25
>>220100(OP) it makes you go bald and sometimes gay
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Anonymous06/19/25(Thu)00:07:04
>>233512 This is a retarded take as most practical martial arts have ideal situations 'in a street fight ' >judo Understanding the risks of throwing hands like a retard, as well as how to fall without dying >kickboxing Understanding that jabs are OP and the risks of throwing a kick, rather that if someone is kicking you on the streets they have a very real chance of falling and breaking something >bjj Even bears practice this, when you're down, how to safely and aggressively get off your back
Another of practical BJJ is keeping away from your opponent, because if it's a street fight scenario I don't want to hug a fucking sweaty hobo and his yellow wifebeater
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Anonymous08/25/25(Mon)17:06:27
It's bad and terrible. It is not as good as high school wrestling.
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Anonymous09/20/25(Sat)09:27:14
>>240992 I wish I did wrestling but I'm not american so that wasn't an option in hs. If only the retard Gracie Brapzillians didn't lobotomize judo standup.
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Anonymous09/21/25(Sun)05:21:17
I totally had forgotten about this thread and was about to make the exact same joke as the first time I was here (>>220406).
In all honesty, knowing how to defend yourself if the fight goes to the ground is useful. The problem lies in the fact that most BJJ purists suck while standing up (the position in which most fights start out in) and most competition BJJ people suck at takedowns and throws (a necessary skill when your opponent isn't following BJJ competition rules), so you end up with these practitioners who don't know what they don't know, and not only are they getting their ass kicked by a lot of strikers, but they'll get their ass kicked by other grapplers like wrestlers and judokas too.
Gracie, arguably one of the world's best BJJ practitioners with an 82% win rate at one point, got really famous for winning UFC 1 and then losing many times afterwards to strikers and wrestlers.
In summary, the techniques are valid; the culture, training focus, competition methodology, etc., are not.
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Anonymous09/21/25(Sun)11:33:31
>>242961 Anon what combat sports do you have experience in and is NoGi bjj any better than the regular one?
Context: There’s one gym near me but they only have one dedicated wrestling class but 2x NoGi and 2x BJJ. I plan to combine it with boxing 2 times a week so Nogi 1x Wrestling 1x.
There is a place a little farther away with just two times wrestling a week but with costs of driving there it would be the same cost and then I’d still have to find somewhere to box
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Anonymous09/21/25(Sun)17:27:01
>>242979 >Anon what combat sports do you have experience in Tae Kwon Do (I do not recommend it for self-defense purposes because most instructors are even worse than BJJ ones), and a bit of Judo (after becoming good at Judo do I recommend people consider Jiu Jutsu, but in theory takedowns will be covered with your wrestling classes). >is NoGi bjj any better than the regular one? While NoGi should be the focus, there's nothing wrong with learning a few techniques that involve clothing. >I plan to combine it with boxing 2 times a week so Nogi 1x Wrestling 1x. Yeah, that should be fine.
>>220100(OP) bj is extremely useful the extra j is completely redundant
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Anonymous10/05/25(Sun)17:58:54
>>220100(OP) Bro, be smaller than people and decent grapple, you can beat the biggest guys around cause they all wanna shoot on the little guy and man handle him. 9/10 when I wrestle somebody bigger they end up shooting right into my arm, i lock them up and torque back after wrapping my legs and they can't lift anymore. Guillotine within 15 seconds no problem. Rear naked, kimora, or armbar typically hits after a miss with guillotine cause they have to drop into full guard. This is just backyard shit with the bros that train though. We didn't typically want to hurt each other. People never want to fight me, and I don't like to fight so it works out. I'm sure knowing that I can hit him or choke him to sleep gives my attitude something that others can identify. I can tell when somebody else isn't fucking around too. It helps with your reaction to the confrontation of violence which helps with the outcome majorly. If somebody starts choking a normie they are going to die lol. If somebody starts choking a bjj decently trained dude he's going to remain calm like another day on the mat and likely manuever out. It's just about being equipped to deal with the situation. A guy my size threatens me? It's very unintimidating because I know I can outskill somebody with 40+ pounds on me, 60 once. So this guy is going to get broken apart if he is completely untrained. It would be horrific. I would probably just gain control and try to talk him out of it. That's what it teaches you.
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Anonymous10/05/25(Sun)18:02:30
>>242961 Royce Gracie retired 15-2-3. He is inarguably the best grappler that ever existed in the UFC. If he was around now with the array of training that exists he would easily be 20-0. I fucking hate Royce Gracie with a passion because he said he tries to hurt his opponents badly, but you can't talk shit about his skill level you stupid fuck.
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Anonymous10/05/25(Sun)18:55:26
>>244188 >He is inarguably the best grappler that ever existed in the UFC >you can't talk shit about his skill level you stupid fuck. I did call him one of the best in my comments. Are you just illiterate? Were you unable to comprehend... >"Gracie, arguably one of the world's best BJJ practitioners with an 82% win rate at one point,"
>If he was around now with the array of training that exists he would easily be 20-0 I respectfully disagree; he was a BJJ purist,st and the MMA people of today who incorporate Judo, Wrestling, and BJJ would beat that purist's ass.
>>220100(OP) Sweaty men wrestling each other and putting their legs around each other on the floor until one 'submits'. That a nah from me bro.
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Anonymous01/25/26(Sun)12:29:08
>>244188 >He is inarguably the best grappler that ever existed in the UFC >15-2-3 pick one
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Anonymous01/25/26(Sun)15:15:46
>>220100(OP) The number one thing you learn in jiujitsu is that no amount of "i just see red" fuckery is going to get a competent grappler off of you in mount.
>>220100(OP) It seems they teach you many ways to "present yourself" to your opponent in many environments, as to reduce injuries from the repeated, vigorous and certainly consensual, penetrations of said opponent.
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Anonymous06/04/26(Thu)21:28:59
>>220100(OP) it teaches me everynight that i am a worthless piece of shit with no ability to learn any grappling whatsoever